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I have a Compaq Presario 5360 that I am turning into an oldschool DOS game machine.I want to run Windows 95 because I feel it is the perfect OS to run. I only own an original retail CD of Windows 95 Upgrade which is the A release. I have to install MS-DOS 6.22, then Windows 3.11 and that is the only way I can install Win95 is to upgrade from there.
I am running an AMD K6-2 450mhz Processor and Windows 95 just TAKES A CRAP on it. I know there is another thread with this problem in it but it was resolved through PM's so it didn't help me. That individual was able to install the AMD K6 patch for Windows 95 after he replaced a couple CAB files. Well, I havn't gotten a reply in my PM's to that same guy so I need help here, I can't upgrade to B or C and I only have A. I have no money to buy off ebay a new copy so I need help getting the AMD K6-2 patch working.
No I don't know what cab files are replaced. I even tried replacing the AMD K6 with a Pentium 120mhz and a 100mhz. the 120 was horribly unstable and the 100mhz was dead. I don't think this motherboard likes em despite it having a socket for them.
I can't for various reasons and I already tried MS-DOS anyway. I can never get my AWE32 card to completly work in MS-DOS but I can however in Windows 95. Besides I already have a machine with a 486SX in it running MS-DOS. No I can't use that machine because it isn't powerful enough and I only really use it to mess around and or program using Quick BASIC. The thing can't run Doom very well either. I used to have an MS-DOS machine with a Pentium in it but that machine's motherboard died and this presario is going to replace it.
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There is nothing Windows 95a does that will enable an AWE32 to work better for a DOS game. The AWE32 has to be set up by DOS to work best for a DOS program. The best environment for a game like the original DOOM for DOS is just DOS with a correctly configured CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT. Now, there may be some good reasons why you also want this computer running Win95a, but there's no way it's going to help your DOS games use your AWE32. Have you looked at this site:
http://www.mdgx.com/
It's a long page, but down at the bottom there are links supposedly to Win95/95a service pack updates. Don't know if the links still work, but is it possible some of these free updates might fix the problem of Win95 on the K6-2?
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You don't have to install DOS, then Win3.1, then Win95 Upgrade. All you have to do is boot off a Win95 boot floppy, pop in the CD, start the installation & at some point along the way, you will be prompted to insert one or more of the Win3.1 floppies as proof of a previous OS.
As for your problem installing Win95, it's because you have an AMD K6-2/450. Win95 will NOT install with a K6-2 running faster than 350MHz. You'll have to underclock the CPU, complete the installation, install the AMD K6-2 update patch, then clock the CPU back to 450MHz.
"If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions" - Jules Winnfield (Samuel L. Jackson) in Pulp Fiction
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OK... first off... the difference with windows 95 and MS-DOS is that Windows 95 installs it automatically and I just have to set i.e. in setup.exe for doom to AWE32 and it works, in MS-DOS YOU STILL have to install the driver what I am saying is the driver never works for me in MS-DOS nor Windows 3.1 and in Windows 95 I HAVE gotten it to work. The difference is that Win95 is PNP MS-DOS isn't. Thanks though for the link, I will check it out. The Service packs do not update Win95A to b or c so the AMD update doesn't work. as to the second reply, if you don't have a boot floppy to windows 95 you do have to install win3.1 its called an upgrade for a reason and the disk isn't bootable. yes I have a retail version. and if you read my first post I ALREADY know that it is the AMD causing problems. But the problem is I have a compaq and I can't underclock. If I could I would underclock it to 290mhz then I would not have to apply the update. Thanks for the help though I appreciate it.
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"if you don't have a boot floppy to windows 95 you do have to install win3.1 its called an upgrade for a reason"
Yes, I know it's an upgrade CD...I've used them plenty of times before WITHOUT 1st installing the older OS. AFAIK, all Win95 CDs are unbootable...you have to start with a boot floppy & run setup from DOS. If you don't have a Win95 boot floppy, get one here
"If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions" - Jules Winnfield (Samuel L. Jackson) in Pulp Fiction
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I didn't know all Windows 95 CD's weren't bootable. But yeah I have a boot disk now and I am installing Windows 95 to try again.
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Here's some info on installing the AMD patch manually:
http://www.geocities.com/politalk/w...
You said you couldn't get it to work by temporarily replacing the AMD with a slower P-I. A good P-I will work as long as you set the motherboard jumpers correctly. Besides the frequency and multiplier being different, the AMD will be a dual voltage cpu. The 2 P-I's you tried weren't
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THANK YOU!!! By mentioning the jumpers I completely forgot that the AMD runs at 3.3v and that the Pentiums run at 5v. I took a CompTIA course and am a certified repair technition I can't believe I forgot that. That would explain why the 120mhz Pentium was so unstable. My friend gave me his Windows 95C release CD so I don't need any help anymore so it is good to know I can still use the Windows 95A with the Pentium if I have to.
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but now I have a new problem... This time regarding the AWE32, while I get it to play MIDI and it does fine, Doom and Descent are flawless. However when I play Duke Nukem 3D or Xenophage, the AWE32 doesn't play all the tracks or plays cut off midi sounds. I assumed this was sampler ram but I filled the card up. If I switch the card over to use OPL3 instead of the EMU chip it works fine just when I use wavetables in those games it doesn't work completely. It is much better than how I did in MS-DOS where the card would not work at ALL even with drivers. Digital Sounds I got working and OPL3 basically the SB16 half worked in DOS not the wavetable. I need help as to what I can do I am using the drivers Windows 95 came with and for the most part it works fine until I play newer DOS games such as Duke Nukem 3D. It is a MIDI and not Sound issue.
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95 may have changed the resources of the sound card from what your dos programs are expecting. One thing you can do is set the 'PnP OS' option in cmos/bios setup to NO. (Instead of PnP OS it may say 'windows 95') Another thing is to reserve the IRQ in cmos/bios setup for a legacy/dos device. IRQ 5 is what most dos games will expect. With midi files another IRQ may be involved.
Here's some general information:
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Kudos for Duke Nukem! :D
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Duke Nukem 3D is one of my favorite games, I grew up with Doom, Super Mario World, Descent, and Duke Nukem. I need to get more sampler ram for my AWE32 because the 30-pin SIMM's it takes are dead. By the way, I did get everything working and its a great machine, I use it to host and play old games when people come over, DooM LAN parties are a LOT of fun! This is also why I kept my Serial Cables.
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