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Windows 95 Only Displaying 7.82GB

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Name: Stephen Fox
Date: February 23, 2006 at 21:33:30 Pacific
OS: Windows 95 4.00.950 C
CPU/Ram: PENTIUM MMX; 166MHz; 256
Product: GATEWAY P55C-166 GW2K HAM
Comment:

Hi All,

I bought a brand new Seagate 80GB (model ST380013ARK) hard drive today but upon installing Windows 95 I noted that it says the hard drive capacity is only 7.82GB. Should I run FDISK and create another partition or is there a way to get around this? I'm am guessing there must be a away to get this back, I would like to start storing tons of music and movies.

Stephen Fox
sdfox7@aol.com
Windows 95 4.00.950 C
PENTIUM MMX; 166MHz; 256 RAM
GATEWAY P55C-166 GW2K HAMPTON



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Response Number 1
Name: bofra
Date: February 23, 2006 at 21:53:26 Pacific
Reply:

check motherboard capabilities,

check bios settings for drive: lba, auto detect, et cetera,

check drive specs/compatabilities as well and settings,
:)


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Response Number 2
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: February 23, 2006 at 22:47:52 Pacific
Reply:

The bios on a PC that old isn't going to see an 80 gig drive. You could try going to Gateway's site and see if there's a bios upgrade for it. But even if there is one I doubt it will see the drive.

Assuming a bios update won't fix it, you'll need to install a bios overlay on the drive. That software should be on the disk that came with the drive. If you don't have the disk you can get it from the drive manufacturer's site.

First boot up with your bootdisk and remove the existing partition. Then boot up with the overlay installation disk and follow the instructions. Once installed, when booting from the HD the overlay software will load and you'll have access to the entire 80 gig. You can probably partition and format using the installation disk or, once the overlay is installed, you can do it with the 98 bootdisk.

The overlay installs on the hard drive so you must boot from it in order for it to load. So you can't boot directly from a bootdisk. If you do that you won't have access to the hard drive. When the overlay loads a message appears on the screen telling you to press a certain key (usually CTRL) for boot options. When that message appears the overlay has loaded. You can then insert a bootdisk if you want to boot up with it.


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Response Number 3
Name: trvlr
Date: February 24, 2006 at 04:07:09 Pacific
Reply:

Being one who personally prefers to avoid overlay software... I suggest you might consider to install an add-in controller-card. Gives you a current bios; easy to install; comes in PCI format; EISA vesions are probably still arouund too (if current Mobo doesn't support PCI, or you don't have a free slot)... Will thus handle all current drives...

Promise make them; Maxtor too...

Typical cost around £30-35/$40???


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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: February 24, 2006 at 06:02:20 Pacific
Reply:

This has nothing to do with your problem, but I'm curious as to why you're still running Win95? A 166MMX w/256MB will run Win98 quite well & you'll have much better hardware/software support.


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Response Number 5
Name: Kurt S
Date: February 24, 2006 at 07:29:18 Pacific
Reply:

Your also going to run into problems with a FAT16 partition. FAT16 can have a maximum size of 2 gigs. You would have to create 40 partitions to utilize the full disk.


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Response Number 6
Name: trvlr
Date: February 24, 2006 at 09:02:48 Pacific
Reply:

Good points too in Posts 4/5...


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Response Number 7
Name: Stephen Fox
Date: February 24, 2006 at 10:40:42 Pacific
Reply:

I tried Windows 98 but I was not impressed. Fonts weren't displaying correctly (I noticed the same problem in ME) and there are delays when clicking icons on the desktop. Also, it is FAT32, not FAT16.

Stephen Fox
sdfox7@aol.com
Windows 95 4.00.950 C
PENTIUM MMX; 166MHz; 256 RAM
GATEWAY P55C-166 GW2K HAMPTON


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Response Number 8
Name: trvlr
Date: February 24, 2006 at 11:03:54 Pacific
Reply:

'98 can be handle/create etc. both fat16/fat32... thus a drive can have fat16 or fat32 partitions co-existing...


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Response Number 9
Name: jam
Date: February 24, 2006 at 14:29:12 Pacific
Reply:

The browser integration in Win98 definitely makes it less responsive than Win95. Win98 is still the better choice though, for a number of reasons. You could always try 98Lite (free preview edition)...it'll give you the best of both worlds. Check out the 'Sleek' setup

http://www.litepc.com/98lite.html


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Response Number 10
Name: Dave357
Date: February 25, 2006 at 12:09:23 Pacific
Reply:

Steven's specs show that he is running Win95C, which is quite capable of using FAT32 partitions, as is Win95B, also. Win95 Original & Win95A are the only versions that require FAT16.

Although I too would probably run Win98SE on this machine, I have several older laptops in the 100-133 MHz range with 32-64 MB RAM that run Win95C quite nicely. After adding in Active Desktop & upgrading to IE5, these laptops perform quite nicely. (Of course I've tweaked things to my liking, and added in a lot of the old patches, which are still available on Microsoft's website, if you look around.)

Check out Lightspeed's Windows 95 page. He has a ton of info & apps for Win95.

HTH

Dave

If a turtle doesn't have a shell, is he homeless or naked?


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Response Number 11
Name: jam
Date: February 26, 2006 at 06:58:36 Pacific
Reply:

"After adding in Active Desktop & upgrading to IE5..."

The main reason Win95 is more responsive than Win98 is because it doesn't have that added crap...browser integration & "Active Desktop" slow things down


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Response Number 12
Name: Glitchman
Date: March 1, 2006 at 13:46:10 Pacific
Reply:

I have run into something like this not too long ago:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=263044

However, let's do the math:

Your hard drive contains 80 billion bytes. With 1024 bytes per kB, 1024 kB per MB, and 1024 MB per GB, that comes out to roughly 74.5 GB of true space (which includes the minor overhead of the FAT.) If your BIOS really supported that hard drive, then Win 95's (and 98's) fdisk would still overflow and would report it as approximately 74.5 GB - 64 GB = 10.5 GB. But yours is reporting 7.82 GB instead. This difference is far greater than the overhead of the file allocation table.

Bottom line: Feel free to try the updated fdisk, but I have a feeling that it won't work in your case. In playing with the numbers more, I suspect your current BIOS is limited to 8.4 GB. If the updated fdisk does actually work (say after a BIOS update, if one exists in this case), then I'd still partition it into a few chunks to avoid the overhead of large cluster sizes (64 kB) on volumes larger than 64 GB.


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