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Name: edstep
Date: December 25, 2002 at 15:01:54 Pacific
OS: Windows 2000
CPU/Ram: Petnitum 3 -256
Comment:

This is my issue, I have a C drive that was formatted. I copied down a boot disk from bootdisk.com. I place my WIN95 OEM CD in the drive, thenboot from the floppy. I come up with the following error message -- no drives found aborting installation. I have tried the WIN98 boot disk etc with the same issue. I would appreicate any help thanks



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Response Number 1
Name: Imp
Date: December 25, 2002 at 15:16:35 Pacific
Reply:

Hello Edstep,
I think you need at least the quick restore set of windows 95, given with this machine when sold long time ago. Problem is you install a OEM version which is a sort of agrement between Microsoft and the manufactorer to allow the use of the windows program win 95.
During installation you are required to give a license number to activate the reinstallation of the program, this number has to be the same than the number embaded in the Rom system of that computer to match together.
If you formated this partition C you lost all the signatures allowed by Microsoft to run any program on this computer.
Only a quick restore set can save you otherwise you can through away to the garbage this old version.
Try maybe also to bring your computer to your favorite tech dealer, maybe he will be able to use a old set to restore the machine, but in windows 95 that's become almost a dream.....


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Response Number 2
Name: edstep
Date: December 25, 2002 at 15:21:24 Pacific
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I dont remember if I have any quick install or not. Plus Im not at home, I am away for the holidays. You wouldnt happen to know if there is any share ware for this do you? And thanks for the reply


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Response Number 3
Name: Imp
Date: December 25, 2002 at 15:30:58 Pacific
Reply:

You can try to look on the web with WWW.GOOGLE.COM and ask for quick restore pack set....maybe a chance to find it, otherwise to ask to a technician specialized on computer's system and repair....
Windows 95 is still locatable to a passionate user of windows 95, as I am, but in France.... :)))))


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Response Number 4
Name: Dave Bartz
Date: December 25, 2002 at 15:31:58 Pacific
Reply:

Are you sure your hard drive formated?
Are you sure your hard drive is good?
If you can get your hands on a norton ghost boot disk that may help. It'll use CD drivers from the ghost disk.

If you place a cd in the drive and boot with your special floppy can you "see" the cd drive by typing in the drive letter D: and hitting enter then type DIR and enter. Does it show the file structure of the drive?

Dave


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Response Number 5
Name: possum
Date: December 25, 2002 at 15:50:31 Pacific
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I don`t know how Edstep concluded that you need a restore CD as I don`t see any brand of computer mentioned in your post. If the OEM CD is a Microsoft CD it can be used in any computer.
Go into the BIOS and ensure that all IDE controllers are enabled, that the drives are recognised and that the "A" drive is listed first in the boot sequence.


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Response Number 6
Name: edstep
Date: December 25, 2002 at 16:00:11 Pacific
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The PC is a Packard Bell -- Master CD --
When I try to boot from the floppy, which I got from www.bootdisk.com, I cant access the CD. I get No drive found, aborting installation. In answer to the other question if I type in D: it returns with an invalid drive


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Response Number 7
Name: Petit Jean
Date: December 25, 2002 at 17:23:12 Pacific
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Boot with your Windows 98 boot disk and use fdisk to check for the presence of partitions.Sometimes you will find non-dos partitions and for Windows 95 it is the same as no partitions.You need at least one primary C dos partition fat 16 or fat 32 (use LBA to get more than 540 Mo size) set active(use choice 4 of fdisk to check for presence).If you find non-dos partitions, delete them with delpart.exe that is first copied to the boot disk.This program has a simple graphical interface asking you to confirm deletion.Reboot and use fdisk to create a dos partition.REBOOT and format C before system installation.
For delpart:
http://hercules.lss.ksu.edu/download/MSSTUFF/index.htm
Good luck.


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Response Number 8
Name: fletch
Date: December 25, 2002 at 17:55:26 Pacific
Reply:

Some of the Packard bell computers used a higher letter (in the last half of the alphabet) for the cd drive, but I can't remember what letter. They did it so that the cd drive letter would always stay the same. Do you remember from when it was new? Maybe someone else knows. If not, try some other drive letters, and see if it works.
Good luck
jim f


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Response Number 9
Name: tech-fred
Date: December 25, 2002 at 19:24:33 Pacific
Reply:

Early Packard Bells had the CD drive
connected to the sound card.

You will need the the model of the the
computer or better yet, the model of the
CD drive and the sound card.


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Response Number 10
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: December 25, 2002 at 20:38:21 Pacific
Reply:

There should be no problems using an OEM cd to install 95 after a format. The message is coming from the cdrom drivers on the bootdisk--it has nothing to do with the hard drive. The drivers can't locate the cdrom because

1) The controller isn't enabled (as mentioned above)

2) It's not connected or jumpered properly

3) It's connected through it's own controller card, most likely a sound card (as mentioned above).

4) The cdrom is bad.

You probably need to open the case and see how it's set up. Also, you're not putting 95 on a P-III are you?


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Response Number 11
Name: The Judge1
Date: December 25, 2002 at 20:57:10 Pacific
Reply:

Tech Fred is right on the money, and well supported by Dave's statement.

Remember the days when they use to sell multimedia packages, soundcard, CD Rom Drives, speakers, etc. those are the times when the connection of CD ROM drive to the soundcard is very common, even Packard Bell did it (actually, Packard Bell was notorious for doing that).

So, this is an advice from a user who had a similar problem, and solved it:

Do not use Windows 98 or Windows 95 bootdisk, and I will say that twice. Do not boot from those floppys, Both OS will not detect your CD drive when booted from floppy. Again, they will not detect your CD drive!!! Your best bet is to install DOS 6.22 on your system, then install the soundcard driver and CD drive driver.( Yes, drivers need to be installed under DOS to enable CD and Sound card). The self installing utility will modify your Autoexec.bat and Config.sys. When you are done, you will be able to access your CD drive and install Windows 95 from there.
No problem after that, they are both FAT16.

This method will work even if the SoundCard is old SCSI, and if the CD drive is really connected to the Sound Card, otherwise, Dave is correct with his other assumptions!


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Response Number 12
Name: Startrekfan821
Date: December 26, 2002 at 00:42:42 Pacific
Reply:

It sounds like you need more specialized cdrom drivers to work through the sound card. I don't think normal IDE drivers will work.


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Response Number 13
Name: Liza LaCroix
Date: December 28, 2002 at 22:26:08 Pacific
Reply:

i wanna know where i can download windows 95 os. my disks are correurpted. HELLLLPPPPP !


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