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Win98 DST Update

Original Message
Name: CyberDude
Date: February 24, 2007 at 03:04:40 Pacific
Subject: Win98 DST Update
OS: Win98 SE
CPU/Ram: 1.5Ghz/256mb
Comment:
I'm planning to update my Windows clock as a result of the new Daylight Saving Time laws. I am going to use TZEdit.exe. I also have Outlook 2002(XP) installed under Windows 98SE. Looking at Microsoft's support pages for the Outlook Update, it doesn't appear that they support OL 2002 under Windows 98SE. I don't use the Outlook calendar or meetings features; I just use Outlook for sending and receiving e-mail. Do I need to install the Outlook Update also? Or will the Win98SE Update alone (TZedit.exe) keep the time stamps in Outlook in sync? Thanks to all who respond.

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Response Number 1
Name: wizard-fred
Date: February 24, 2007 at 04:31:00 Pacific
Subject: Win98 DST Update
Reply: (edit)
DST time adjustments only occurs twice a year. I think setting DST off and manually resetting the clock is sufficient for those who don't leave the computer on all the time. Otherwise you could install a program that gets the time from a time server and have it update your clock every hour.

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Response Number 2
Name: Bryco
Date: February 24, 2007 at 05:07:29 Pacific
Subject: Win98 DST Update
Reply: (edit)
I tried TZedit.exe on my Win98SE machine but when trying to open/run the .exe nothing happens whatsoever.

I have since successfully applied the proposed 'fix' found at http://www.intelliadmin.com/blog/20...

Naturally, I won't know if it worked until 11Mar. I did get a response from the .exe I ran though.

The Outlook issue apparently only effects the use of the calendar.

Bryan


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Response Number 3
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: March 2, 2007 at 20:39:34 Pacific
Subject: Win98 DST Update
Reply: (edit)
Which TZedit are you trying to use?

Preparing for daylight saving time changes in 2007
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ti...

How to configure daylight saving time for the United States in 2007
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/914387

All of the above is Win 2000 and later oriented.

Note:
The Win 98 and 98SE CD has tzedit.exe in the \Tools\Reskit\Config directory on the Windows CD - it appears it will do everything TZedit and TimeZoneEdit.exe will do in the second article above.
Also see Tzedit.hlp in the same directory
Editing a Time Zone, and
Editing the Time Zone Entry for the Current Time Zone


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Response Number 4
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: March 3, 2007 at 08:42:15 Pacific
Subject: Win98 DST Update
Reply: (edit)
The Win 98 and 98SE CD has tzedit.exe in the \Tools\Reskit\Config folder (directory) on the Windows CD.
(I assume the Win ME CD has tzedit.exe in the same place, but I have no Win ME CD to examine. Win 95 does not have tzedit.exe, at least it doesn't on the Win 95 original version CD I looked at.)

Tzedit.exe will run from the CD,
or you can copy the appropriate files to your hard drive and run it from there.
(Copy tzedit.cnt, tzedit.exe, and tzedit.hlp, Paste them into to the same folder on your hard drive. E.g. C:\TZEdit)

The Help in tzedit.exe does not work.
You must click on tzedit.hlp in the same directory for help.
In tzedit.hlp, see Editing a Time Zone, and
Editing the Time Zone Entry for the Current Time Zone
(quoted in the following).
......

Walkthrough.

"Editing a Time Zone" (from tzedit.hlp on a Win 98SE CD)

"You can edit a time zone name or adjust the start and end dates for daylight saving time. All time zone information changed will affect every user of the system.

To Edit a time zone

1 In the Windows 98 Time Zone Editor dialog box, select a time zone and then click Edit.
2 Edit the time zone name, abbreviation, or the difference from Greenwich Mean Time.
Note The abbreviation is a short string name passed back to applications, such as Mail applications, that ask for more information about this time zone. The first Abbreviation box should contain the abbreviation for the Standard (non-daylight) version of this time zone.

3 If you want daylight saving time to be automatically enabled for the time zone, check the Automatically Set Daylight Saving Time checkbox. Then, in the boxes below, set the dates and times on which daylight savings time will stop and start. "

In this case (taken from instructions for a different tzedit version for Win 2000 with SP4 on the Microsoft web site, Canadian instructions added):

" - In the Edit Time Zone dialog box, select the Automatically set Daylight Saving Time check box.
- In the Start Day row, click to select Second, click to select Sunday, click to select March, and then click to select 2:00:00 am.
- In the Last Day row, click to select First, click to select Sunday,, click to select November, and then click to select 2:00:00 am.
- To set the daylight saving time dates for another time zone in the United States (or in Canada for those provinces that use Daylight Savings Time), select the other time zone, and then repeat the previous two steps (2 and 3).
Click OK."

(continuing with the contents of "Editing a Time Zone" from tzedit.hlp)

"In the second Abbreviation box, optionally type a name to be used for the time zone when daylight savings time is in effect (E.G. “Pacific Daylight”).

In the Daylight Bias box, select the time change from the Standard time for daylight savings time. In most cases this value should stay at the default value of +1:00 hour. This will cause the time to move forward one hour on the DST start day/time and fall back one hour on the DST end day/time."

Windows 98 Time Zone Editor Help© Microsoft Corporation 1997
......

"Editing the Time Zone Entry for the Current Time Zone" (from tzedit.hlp)

" Data for the current time zone is saved in a different location in the Registry than the data for the time zone entries in the Date/Time Icon. Therefore, if you change the settings for the current time zone, the changes will not immediately take effect. In order for the new information to be used by the system, use the following procedure.

To edit the time zone entry for the current time zone

1 Use the Windows 98 Time Zone Editor to edit the time zone entry.
2 Open Control Panel and click the Date/Time icon.
3 Click the Time Zone tab.
4 Select or re-select the time zone you have changed.
5 Click OK.

The system clock will be reset to take into account the changes you have made."

Windows 98 Time Zone Editor Help© Microsoft Corporation 1997

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Response Number 5
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: March 8, 2007 at 14:05:00 Pacific
Subject: Win98 DST Update
Reply: (edit)
Quotes from the Microsoft site:

(Win 95)
"Time Zone Editor (Tzedit.exe) is available on the OEM Service Release 2 CD-ROM. You can run this tool directly from the CD-ROM by double-clicking it in the Admin\Apptools\Tzedit folder on the CD-ROM."

"The Windows Time Zone Editor tool (Tzedit.exe) is included in the Windows 2000 Server Resource Kit Tools.
On a computer that has the Windows 2000 Server Resource Kit Tools installed, click Start, click Run, type tzedit in the Open box, and then click OK."
......

I used FC (file compare) to check whether the contents of TZEdit.exe, TZEdit.hlp, and TZEdit.cnt on the Win 98 and Win 98SE CDs are the same - they are identical - the only difference is the file date and time stamp.

I still haven't found out whether TZEdit.exe, TZEdit.hlp, and TZEdit.cnt are in the same place on the Win ME CD as they are on the Win 98 and Win 98SE CDs.
A post I found says the Win 98/98SE version of TZEdit.exe works fine for ME.



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Response Number 6
Name: Bryco
Date: March 8, 2007 at 14:42:20 Pacific
Subject: Win98 DST Update
Reply: (edit)
Tubesandwires,

I will wait until after Mar 11 and if the exe I ran did not set it up then your extensive information will come in quite handy.

Thank you for your efforts that will also benefit anyone looking for it later.

Regards,
Bryan


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Response Number 7
Name: billh
Date: March 10, 2007 at 20:53:49 Pacific
Subject: Win98 DST Update
Reply: (edit)
IntelliAdmin has an exe to do the 98 registry fix at:

http://www.intelliadmin.com/blog/20...

Thanks for the details in this thread.

Bill H


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Response Number 8
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: March 10, 2007 at 21:36:18 Pacific
Subject: Win98 DST Update
Reply: (edit)
I tried the Win 98/98SE tzedit.exe etc. on a Win ME installation on the 9nth - it works fine, just like it does in Win 98/98SE. There was no tzedit.* or anything similar on the Windows ME installation.

I looked at the Win ME CD that made that installation, retail Upgrade version.
It does NOT have tzedit.exe etc.. There is no reskit (Resource Kit) folder.
I didn't search the *.cab files, but I doubt they would be in there.


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Response Number 9
Name: Bryco
Date: March 11, 2007 at 05:12:33 Pacific
Subject: Win98 DST Update
Reply: (edit)
Well, I powered up my Win98SE PC this morning and it still has not changed to DST.

I will seek out the TZedit and follow the above instructions.

Thanks,
Bryan


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Response Number 10
Name: Bryco
Date: March 11, 2007 at 06:27:02 Pacific
Subject: Win98 DST Update
Reply: (edit)
Ok, I had previously installed the Win98 Resource Kit and found Time Zone Editor within it's console. I executed it to find it shows DST defined correctly with second Sunday in March (today).
I reset the settings but it still did not adjust the clock.

I tried doing a scanreg /restore but the oldest date found was one younger than the date I applied the 'fix'.

I played around quite a bit including uninstalling the fix. After which I went through the steps provided, restarted the PC adn I was then prompted with the Windows time change prompt. However my clock was now an hour behind. Oh well; I'll have to wit until November to see if it is set correctly.

I manually adjusted the clock to be correct.

Interestingly, I had tried using an Atomic time clock synch application to find thaat two of teh ones I treid had not been patched so they were still one hour behind.

In summary: I believe the fix provided by http://www.intelliadmin.com/blog/20... did not help.

I beleive the instructions provided by Tubesandwires would have been better.

Best regards,
Bryan


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Response Number 11
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: March 11, 2007 at 07:04:31 Pacific
Subject: Win98 DST Update
Reply: (edit)
" I executed it to find it shows DST defined correctly with second Sunday in March (today).
I reset the settings but it still did not adjust the clock."

See the last part of response 4. You either have to re-load it by clicking on it, or load another time zone then load the one you edited.
I did the former and it changed fine when I turned it on today.


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