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Win98 computer will not show HD

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Name: Eric the Grey
Date: November 2, 2004 at 12:20:17 Pacific
OS: Win 98
CPU/Ram: 266mhz/128
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I helped a friend transfer his hard drives from his older computer to a newer box (faster CPU, etc). The original drive apparently died.

The two drives were from a working ~166mhz computer and there were no issues.

The primary drive is 3.x gig and had windows 98 loaded on it. The secondary one is a 30 gig drive.

I reloaded Win98 so it would have all the new hardware loaded correctly.

The trouble is that the secondary hard drive will not show up in My computer, or Windows Explorer.

BIOS shows the drives. Win98's device manager shows both drives. I can use FDISK in a command prompt and see both drives (the Win98 drive is drive 0, the second is drive 1).

I cannot get to the drive any other way.

Remember that this drive was formatted FAT32 by Win98, and was read by the previous OS (also Win98) so there is no reason why it should not be able to read it.

I'm certain I'm just overlooking something, but for the life of me, I cannot see it.

Can anybody give me an idea why I cannot see this drive?

I'd appreciate any help you can offer.


Eric the Grey



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Response Number 1
Name: rayok
Date: November 2, 2004 at 12:24:25 Pacific
Reply:

have the master and slave pin settings be set correctly ? also try it on another IDE, I had a similar problem with a dell once and that was because you had to install the motherboard drivers so the os could "see" accross the ide channels

Techy n Welsh


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Response Number 2
Name: WARLOCK
Date: November 2, 2004 at 12:49:19 Pacific
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Try mounting the drive in windows. Using XP at the mo would have to boot to 98SE to tell you exactly. Doing it from memory. Hang on booted an old PC with 95 on it. Start,programs,accessories,system tools, Drivespace. Then if you see it in there. Click on it and go to advanced mount. Mount it. Or try drive properties then untick hide.
Not saying it is compressed but might be.


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Response Number 3
Name: Eric the Grey
Date: November 2, 2004 at 12:59:19 Pacific
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The jumpers were not changed between computers, and they are still being shown by bios and fdisk correctly as drive 0 and 1.

I think your statement about motherboard drivers might have some merit though. Checking, we have a PCI System Management bus device that is not functioning properly.

Been trying to find the drivers for it, but without luck so far. I hadden't worried as much about that, since most everything else was working.

Eric the Grey


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Response Number 4
Name: Eric the Grey
Date: November 2, 2004 at 13:11:17 Pacific
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Drivespace does not exist on this computer. I think they got rid of it in Win98. I know it existed in '98.

Eric the Grey


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Response Number 5
Name: WARLOCK
Date: November 2, 2004 at 13:22:44 Pacific
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Drivespace does exist on 98SE just cheaked my windows 98SE folder its there. Have all the windows stuff been installed
Add remove programs windows setup. 95 puts it on as default. 98se may have to add later. Cant remember.


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Response Number 6
Name: JPW
Date: November 2, 2004 at 13:33:52 Pacific
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You stated
"The two drives were from a working ~166mhz computer and there were no issues."
If that is true then to have installed a 30GB HD you would have had to install a drive overlay program for the full capavity to be used by that old of a BIOS. and so the drive overlay program is hiding it from the new BIOS on your new computer.



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Response Number 7
Name: Eric the Grey
Date: November 2, 2004 at 14:37:22 Pacific
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Is there any way of removing said drive overlay from it, so that it'll work without reformatting the drive? We'd like to recover the data off of it, at the very least.


Eric the Grey


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Response Number 8
Name: JPW
Date: November 2, 2004 at 15:03:04 Pacific
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Place the Drives back in the old computer and copy the data you need to a disk and then place them back in the new computer and bootup with the Hard Drive Manufactures Overlay program and chose to uninstall the Overlay. Then Fdisk and partition and format the drives.


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Response Number 9
Name: Eric the Grey
Date: November 2, 2004 at 15:05:43 Pacific
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I was afraid that was going to be the answer. :(

Thanks for all the help people. I appreciate it.


Eric the Grey


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Response Number 10
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: November 2, 2004 at 19:34:24 Pacific
Reply:

Run fdisk, Y to large disk support, then option 5. Option 2 to change to the second drive, then option 4. Exactly what does it say?


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