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Win. 98 SE takes forever to boot up on old pc

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Name: OPortuges
Date: April 29, 2009 at 12:26:33 Pacific
OS: Windows 98 SE
Subcategory: General
Comment:

I have a old computer and i use it specialy for old games that doesn't work on new Windows (such as Win. XP and Vista) and it takes 10 minutes to boot up the Windows! I stoped some unused and unnecessary programs/systems from booting. No visible changes. I don't know what else I can do. Please help.
Note: The only programs/systems that still boots are:
OS systems: explorer.exe, rundll32.exe, systray.exe and scanrgw.exe.
AVG 7.5 (antivirus): boot.exe

PC specs:
CPU: Pentium-S 120 mhz
RAM: 40 mb
Video card: S3 Trio 64V+ PCI (765) 1 mb
Sound card: Sound Blaster Pro 2



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Response Number 1
Name: mavis007
Date: April 29, 2009 at 13:02:13 Pacific
Reply:

... open "My Computer" open c:\ (drive)

... right click "autoexec.bat" option edit post the contents here

... post the contents of "config.sys" also, open with "notepad"

Grrrr
"...pentathol makes you sing like a canary"
... got brain freeze


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Response Number 2
Name: Derek
Date: April 29, 2009 at 13:19:18 Pacific
Reply:

Unless you are running DOS games you could try disabling autoexec.bat and config.sys by renaming them to autoexec.ba- and config.sy- (or whatever). Windows will boot fine without them.

some other bloke...


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Response Number 3
Name: OPortuges
Date: April 29, 2009 at 13:50:42 Pacific
Reply:

autoexec.bat content is:

PATH C:\MOUSE;
MOUSE
SET MIDI=SYNTH:1 MAP:E
C:\PROGRA~1\GRISOFT\AVGFRE~1\BOOTUP.exe
REM [Header]
@ECHO OFF


REM [CD-ROM Drive]

REM [Miscellaneous]

REM [Display]

REM [Sound, MIDI, or Video Capture Card]

REM [Mouse]

mode con codepage prepare=((850) c:\windows\COMMAND\ega.cpi)
mode con codepage select=850
keyb po,,c:\windows\COMMAND\keyboard.sys
C:\MOUSE\MOUSE.COM /L=GB
C:\essolo.com


the config.sys content is:

DEVICE=C:\essolo.sys
DEVICE=C:\SBPRO\DRV\CTSBPRO.SYS /UNIT=0 /BLASTER=A:220 I:5 D:1
DEVICE=C:\SBPRO\DRV\CTMMSYS.SYS
FILES=40


REM [Header]


(Cuted the XXL free space in autoexec.bat)

Quote from Derek:

"Unless you are running DOS games you could try disabling autoexec.bat and config.sys by renaming them to autoexec.ba- and config.sy- (or whatever). Windows will boot fine without them."

I'm using this pc for Windows games too (such as "Bug Too" and "Hellbender") and deleting/renaming the autoexec.bat and the config.sys will cause to the sound and the mouse stop working. Also I know how to boot it directely in MS-DOS with out needing to boot the Windows (I tap repeatedly F8 (for 100% success) after checking the memory/hardware and before the Windows starts booting for the booting menu) so i can start playing DOS games in some seconds.


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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: April 29, 2009 at 14:05:10 Pacific
Reply:

Do you actually go online with this thing? If not, live dangerously & remove AVG.


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Response Number 5
Name: Derek
Date: April 29, 2009 at 15:46:05 Pacific
Reply:

In fact AVG is no longer supported or updated for W98 so it is of limited value anyway.

Avast freebie still supports W98.

some other bloke...


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Response Number 6
Name: T-R-A
Date: April 29, 2009 at 23:31:49 Pacific
Reply:

Yeah, AVG is probably the culprit here. Especially if it's a newer (7 or greater) version. I'd agree with Derek, Avast is still Win98 friendly, and it's not near the resource hog that AVG has become. But again (as jam mentions), if it's not online or you don't share data with any other machine, A-V software may not be needed (I'd do a complete scan before blowing it away, though, just to be sure)...

You might want to also see how convoluted your registry is as well. Lot's of software installs/uninstalls will drag a system down as well.

If none of this works, may be time to bite the bullet and go for a reinstall....


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Response Number 7
Name: OPortuges
Date: April 30, 2009 at 02:20:16 Pacific
Reply:

I still share data with other computers (with MSN Messenger 7.0 for download, and hotmail and other emails for upload; it uploads faster using the email because the MSN Messenger runs slowly). And sometimes i play online the games that runs better. I will unistall AVG 7.5 and install Avast antivirus and see if it boots the Windows faster. Thanks for the help.

PS: I used ccleaner to find registery errors and it only found 60; all the errors had been fixed.


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Response Number 8
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: May 1, 2009 at 08:27:31 Pacific
Reply:

10 minutes is a long time even for AV software to be the cause.

If it's got a network card you're not using, remove it or disable it it device manager. Sometimes 98 can hang there looking for a connection.

Or, it may just be an old hard drive wearing out. I had a 4 gig drive in this 98 machine that was taking even longer to boot up. I got another one and copied everything over and now it boots normally.


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Response Number 9
Name: OPortuges
Date: May 2, 2009 at 09:36:16 Pacific
Reply:

When I let the pc boot the Windows directly it apears the Windows load screen, and after a minute or two the loading bar under the loading screen desapears and most of the times some seconds after that a DOS screen appears showing what the autorun loads, and it sits there for 8 or 9 minutes and the disk activity light remains on with out flashing until finally the windows blue background and mensage to put the lan name and password appears. The hard disk has almost 8 gb and it is the 3rd hard disk and I don't know how fast it spins.


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Response Number 10
Name: larryf215
Date: May 2, 2009 at 11:30:39 Pacific
Reply:

go into the bios setup and, tell us what the boot order is.

larry


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Response Number 11
Name: OPortuges
Date: May 21, 2009 at 13:57:35 Pacific
Reply:

I had uninstalled AVG and when I rebooted the pc it loaded the Windows in 1-3 minutes. I didn't found any antivirus compatible with it so now it hasn't any AV installed. Also its running more faster than with the AVG installed and I prefer to not have any AV software installed in this old machine.


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Response Number 12
Name: Derek
Date: May 21, 2009 at 15:22:12 Pacific
Reply:

If you should change your mind, as I said in my #5, AVAST is compatible with W98. You have to re-register annually but it is quite free.

I agree that any AV will hog resources.

some other bloke...


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Response Number 13
Name: OPortuges
Date: May 23, 2009 at 04:17:16 Pacific
Reply:

Its not just compatible with the OS, when I said "compatible" I meant everything; OS, memory and CPU. The Avast requires 32 mb of memory and this pc only have 40 mb, so installing it makes me impossible to play games that require more than 8 mb of memory when running the Windows. I know that I should upgrade the memory but its almost impossible to get old memory cards.


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Response Number 14
Name: Derek
Date: May 23, 2009 at 09:13:28 Pacific
Reply:

OK, I understand what you mean now.

some other bloke...


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Response Number 15
Name: larryf215
Date: May 23, 2009 at 11:20:36 Pacific
Reply:

" but its almost impossible to get old memory cards"

http://computers.shop.ebay.com/item...

I make no guarantee as to compatibility

larry


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