Transfer files from 95 with no usb or disc dr

March 21, 2011 at 18:57:38
Specs: Windows Vista
I have an old CTX desktop using Windows 95 with no usb port or recordable disc drive (read-only) no working internet (no ethernet port just phone lines)--how do I transfer files--music and pictures--that are too big for HD floppies!! I couldn't believe I had files as late as 2001 stored on the pc. Any ideas or are these lost forever? Thanks!

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#1
March 21, 2011 at 19:07:37
You could remove the hard drive and mount it in your current computer if it has the same drive interface, Or get the proper external drive enclosure, Or add a network card in the old computer.

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#2
March 21, 2011 at 19:11:38
I've never tried this but maybe you can try the serial port.

you could try removing the hard drive and placing it in a enclosure or another computer.
add a cheap network card pci or usb controller.
try using 7-Zip to make a split archive and copy the files to the floppy disks.
ask a computer technician to backup the files for you.

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#3
March 21, 2011 at 19:51:46
Thanks for the advice. I was hoping for some "magic" cables but realize there aren't many places on my dinosaur. 1GB RAM was big back then right--1996, 1997?? Ha ha! I might take my tower to a tech and see what they can do. Thanks for the quick reply!

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#4
March 21, 2011 at 19:58:33
Wow, I forgot about ZIP! But I'm back to the original how do I download to the old pc and is there enough space--seriously! USB controller, huh. I'm going to look into that, perhaps scavenge something. My tower has been unplugged for almost 10 years in the basement and I was surprised everything still worked. Thanks for the quick reply.

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#5
March 21, 2011 at 21:37:34
Your problem is that the new computer probably doesn't have a parallel or serial port and your old computer doesn't have an ethernet or usb port. The old machine has a floppy drive and cd drive to install software. The cheapest method is to put a net card in the ctx, the next would be to put a cdrw drive in. You may be able to find them used,

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#6
March 22, 2011 at 02:29:55
"1GB RAM was big back then right--1996, 1997?? Ha ha!"

Actually it was unheard of. Almost no new machines supported over 256MB of RAM in that timeframe, and Windows 95 errored-out with more than 512MB installed (without some tweaking).

"But I'm back to the original how do I download to the old pc and is there enough space--seriously! USB controller, huh. I'm going to look into that, perhaps scavenge something."

Forget using USB with the Win95 machine. The "original" two versions (Win95 and Win95A) didn't even support it. Win95B & C did only very marginally. If your new machine does have serial/parallel ports (not terribly likely), you could try something such as Laplink, but as wizard-fred mentioned, moving the hard-drive to an external USB case and pulling the data from there would be a better solution. Otherwise, as you mentioned, it may be best to have a tech do it for you...

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#7
March 22, 2011 at 10:00:35
Exactly my problem!!! I should have replaced the disc drive years ago--saw one on clearance at Best Buy years ago for about $25. I actually bought an external floppy disc drive years ago--with an USB connector--just in case and that's what I've been using recently to transfer the smaller document files to my laptop. I'm going to check online. Thanks again!

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#8
March 22, 2011 at 10:04:31
I agree that using a USB solution on the hard drive after removal is the simplest solution.

I recommend buying an adapter like the one linked below. It is more useful because it works on any IDE or SATA hard drive or optical drive.

I have the unit in the first link below.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

Or you may want the extra feature of a card reader included in the link below.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...



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#9
March 22, 2011 at 10:23:01
Gee, I never heard of WIN95A--not sure what version I have. I do like the idea of installing a recordable disc drive. I haven't looked into if there's a cable with a parallel on one end and usb on the other. Must exist, ehh? Thanks!

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#10
March 22, 2011 at 10:38:04
Do you intend to continue using the CTX computer? If not, why both with all that. Not much in the way of modern programs that will run on that 95 rig. I suggest you belly up on it. Go for the USB solution.

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#11
March 22, 2011 at 13:22:42
Don't try the parallel to usb adapter idea. They are mostly made for printers. I don't think the parallel to parallel software knows hows how to handle a usb port.

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#12
March 22, 2011 at 14:05:06
wizard

I am suggesting CTX remove the hard drive and use a USB adapter to connect to her Vista machine.


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#13
March 22, 2011 at 22:00:05
Her post 9 mentions a parallel to usb adapter,

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#14
March 23, 2011 at 03:08:50
"Gee, I never heard of WIN95A--not sure what version I have."

Just FYI:
You can determine which version by following the directions here (under the "more information" tab):

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/158238

Again (and trying to clarify what's been said already), trying to install a USB card into the Windows'95 machine (aka CTX machine) would likely be of little help, due to the pitiful support Win95(B&C) had for USB.

"Span-zipping" (similar to a floppy backup) would also be an option, but again, involves the use of floppies (perhaps a great deal of them) and would fail if any of the files aren't written properly from the old machine or read properly on the new machine (assuming the new machine even has a floppy drive).

Networking the machines could also work, but (unless using crossover cables) would involve purchasing a router (and network card for the CTX machine if it doesn't have it---and don't even think wireless router/card here), and configuring the network and permissions on each of the machines to allow file transfers.

Cabling two systems together is "doable", but would be dependent on the interfaces available to each machine. And although (as wizard-fred mentioned) parallel-to-USB cables exist, they're exclusively for printers. I've also connected two systems together with modems, but that's likely not an option you want to pursue.

Installing a CD-writer to the CTX machine would be a slightly better option, but finding CD-writing software for Win'95 would also be difficult (though I'm sure there's something out there). Plus, this would be a "one-shot" purchase, unless you have another machine to put the CD-writer into.

Removing the hard-drive from the Win95 machine and connecting to a newer machine that already has USB with something like this (OtH's link):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

would give you the most likely success to recover the files too big for floppies. Whichever method you decide on (and assuming these files/photos are important) once you've moved them, back them up to something more durable (CD/DVD media).

"Channeling the spirit of jboy..."


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#15
March 23, 2011 at 08:22:15
To OtheHill: Oh no, my CTX pc has been unplugged in a basement for nearly 10 years. With parents' deaths, marriage, kids and new technology, I just never got around to updating my old pc or transferring files--files like family pictures that my brothers and I can't find the originals to but they exist in my pc when I scanned some. It's the only reason my hubby hadn't trashed my pc years ago.

Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions. I need to get a tech and will probably install a new drive--SOMEHOW! I'll let y'all know in a couple of weeks if I'm lucky.


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#16
March 23, 2011 at 08:25:07
thanks for these links. the adapter looks promising. i'm going to print out and show to a tech.

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#17
March 23, 2011 at 08:27:54
It appears to me that you still don't get it.

We are suggesting that you open the CTX case and remove the hard drive. Buy the adapter I linked above and use it to connect the CTX drive to your newer computer with the USB cable.

You then should be able to access all the files on the old hard drive.

Removing the drive is pretty straight forward. If you don't think you can handle the removal then take the CTX somewhere and then use the adapter.


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#18
March 23, 2011 at 08:29:19
yeah, i've read parallel ports are less reliable than serial b/c of how fast info is rcv'd at the endpoint, one hiccup and the file is trashed anyway. like i mentioned before, thanks for everyone's suggestions. i'm going to find a tech to install a new drive--hopefully--and will update in a few weeks on my success (or failure!). thanks!

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#19
March 23, 2011 at 08:33:05
i think i got it--i've got two options now and will see which is easier and cheapest to implement. thanks!

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#20
March 23, 2011 at 23:34:55
Another option not yet mentioned is external zip drives--a parallel port for the 95 machine and a USB for the new PC. You should be able to pick up 100 meg zip drives on ebay for $5 - $10 each.

An internal zip drive would work too as long as the new PC has an IDE port and you don't mind opening up the cases. You could probably get by with just one by swapping it between the two computers.

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#21
March 24, 2011 at 05:04:34
DAVEINCAPS

If the OP has not used that computer for ten years the logical method is to remove the hard drive. Then part out the rest of it.


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#22
March 24, 2011 at 17:32:56
Well she'll want to do it the least expensive way as possible and, what for her, is the most practical. Yeah, we'd just pull the drive out and connect it to the newer PC but she seems kind of hesitant to do that. Zip drives are just another option. (All that assumes the 95 PC still works)

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