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Name: peterd
Date: January 1, 2006 at 09:58:56 Pacific
OS: Windows XP
CPU/Ram: AMD sempron 3300/512
Comment:

I have 2 machines that were purchased EXACTLY the same; can I switch the HD from 1 to another and only have to physically switch the HD? 1 machine's motherboard was damaged in a flood yesterday and will not boot but the HD seems fine. I want to get the data off and was hoping that I would be able to just switch with the other machine, get the data, then switch back.

thanks

pd



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Response Number 1
Name: Bob (by BigBob)
Date: January 1, 2006 at 10:06:34 Pacific
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You sure can , just make sure your jumper on the H/D is set the same as the working units H/d

" You're only as safe as your last update "


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Response Number 2
Name: peterd
Date: January 1, 2006 at 10:15:14 Pacific
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Thank you! I have not done this before; I just removed the HD. Where is the jumper and where are the settings? I want to switch the HD, not add a slave.


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Response Number 3
Name: name
Date: January 1, 2006 at 10:24:05 Pacific
Reply:

Frankly, if the other machine is running ok, it would be BETTER to run the problem's machine HDD as a slave. You should be able to "see" it from the running machine, and copy everything you need. There are no hidden areas on a '98 drive, like there are in XP. Anything you can "see" when the HDD is being "run" you should also be able to access as a slave drive.


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Response Number 4
Name: peterd
Date: January 1, 2006 at 10:29:49 Pacific
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OK, so if I run it as a slave, the working HD is connected to a ribbon that has 2 connection imbedded into it; 1 is going to the HD, the other is not connected to another. The working HD is also connected to a 4 pronged wires that say P4. In order to connect the HD from the damaged computer, do I connect the HD to the extra connector on the ribbon and to another 4 prong that says P5? Does the ribbon have 2 connectors so that you can add another HD?

Thanks again for your help!


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Response Number 5
Name: Bob (by BigBob)
Date: January 1, 2006 at 10:48:50 Pacific
Reply:

You system should have another connector BUT you need to make sure it is on the same cable as the first hard drive if it is to be slave
The best way is for you to Check where the Jumper (the small (usually black)connector on the end of the hard drive ie: master/slave/or cable select) is set to on the working computer first

" You're only as safe as your last update "


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Response Number 6
Name: Bob (by BigBob)
Date: January 1, 2006 at 10:51:04 Pacific
Reply:

see if this guides you
Jumper setting

" You're only as safe as your last update "


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Response Number 7
Name: peterd
Date: January 1, 2006 at 10:51:41 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks! The ribbon has a black (which is connected to the HD's) and a grey connector but no master/slave settings. I'm going to assume that the black is master & grey is slave. The other 4prong should just be the power so I think it should be pretty straightforward! Thanks again!


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Response Number 8
Name: Bob (by BigBob)
Date: January 1, 2006 at 10:53:18 Pacific
Reply:

what is the make and model of your hard drive
How to add a slave

" You're only as safe as your last update "


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Response Number 9
Name: peterd
Date: January 1, 2006 at 11:05:29 Pacific
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it is a seagate barracuda 7200.7. the instructions on the drive say that the cable position determines master (black connector) or slave (grey). for older cables, set one drive as a master and the other as slave. It has a diagram for moving the jumper to master/slave position but it since both of the computers are brand new it sounds like the position of the connectors in the ribbon will determine the master/slave relationship.

Thank you so much! This will help me get my business back up and running!


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Response Number 10
Name: Bob (by BigBob)
Date: January 1, 2006 at 11:11:46 Pacific
Reply:

No the riboon cable will plug into the hard drive the same way as the other and so will the PS plug (Power Supply)
The Ribbon going to the original drive should have 2 connectors on it ? The end one should be your master or original drive and the one ½ way in the cable should be slave
DO YOU HAVE 2 Connectors on the ribbon cable to your hard drive?

" You're only as safe as your last update "


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Response Number 11
Name: Bob (by BigBob)
Date: January 1, 2006 at 11:16:49 Pacific
Reply:

then the original hard drive at the end cable should be set for master and the middle ribbon connector (your other comp hard drive ) to be set as slave
The ribbons must connect the same with the red stripe closest to the PS plug
Origingal-master jumper setting
Other hard drive -slave jumper setting

" You're only as safe as your last update "


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Response Number 12
Name: Bob (by BigBob)
Date: January 1, 2006 at 11:20:40 Pacific
Reply:

SEAGATE JUMPER SETTING

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Response Number 13
Name: name
Date: January 1, 2006 at 12:45:13 Pacific
Reply:

The way I usually do this for a quick transfer:

Usually, you can leave your working, original HDD and cable alone, but not always

The END connector is the master

The MIDDLE connector is the slave


I usually temporarily disconnect the CDROM IF it is on a second cable as master, and use that END connector for the temporary drive.

TWO things can screw you up:

The cable must be a so called "80" conductor for the newer drives---You can compare the two cables, and if your HDD master cable seems to be "finer" than the CDROM cable, this may give you trouble

The second thing, is if the temporary drive is "jumpered" from it's original machine as "cable select."

If you jumper it as a "slave," you can indeed hook it to the MIDDLE connector on the "main" cable.


The thing that might screw up there, is if either of the drives is jumpered as a "single" or "single master."


This isn't as hard as it sounds, once you've done it

Also, some machines won't automatically pick up the drive until you go into the bios/setup and "detect" and then "save" the settings. This is not true all the time---most newer motherboards will "auto detect" the drive during bootup


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Response Number 14
Name: Terry@nz
Date: January 2, 2006 at 14:18:10 Pacific
Reply:

That bit about having the Master on the end of the cable ...

I thought it made a difference only if you were using 'Cable Select' (it is the cable that selects which is Master and Slave).

I thought with setting Slave and Master with the jumpers you could have either connection on the cable.

Is this right?

Terry@nz


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Response Number 15
Name: jubalsams
Date: January 2, 2006 at 21:15:57 Pacific
Reply:

Terry, you are correct.

Yet to avoid confusion:

"Always connect the Master to the end of the cable".

This holds true for CS or Master or Single Drive configuration. So name has summarized "any" method.

Best


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