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there are 2 c:\windows\temp files named jet7c37.tmp and jet7169.tmp which refuse to be deleted or renamed or edited in any way. also, the avast4 temp folder can be deleted, but then returns when the comp is started up the next session. as a matter of fact, those two temps change their names after every reboot although the "jet" word is still part of the file name. a google search turns up nothing. my resources used to be in the 90's at bootup, but now have gone down into the lower eighties. the only thing running is the avant antivirus scanner at startup. a virus scan with avast shows up nothing. does anyone know what these temp files are? thanks!

No idea - but much can be learned about mysterious files by examining them with a file viewer such as the classic List (by Vern Buerg)
Give me ambiguity or give me something else

Don't know what these files are but if they are loading at startup they should show up in msconfig. Go to start> run> type msconfig and select startup tab. If these files show there you can safely untick them and reboot. That way if they are legitimate files you can retick them. Also, msconfig can give you some hints as to what these files may be associated with. Files I have found in Windows temp folder that won't delete are sometimes backup files or fax/phone files from a fax tad card. You could try booting to safe mode and deleting these files from there. I tried Avast for a short time and I think it did create .tmp files. Check the properties of the files to see if the size changes. This would be an indication they are used by a program.

You probably can't delete them because they're running.
Download and run hijackthis. It'll probably show those files loading. If hijackthis can't remove them you can delete them after exiting to dos or you can delete the entire temp folder. It'll be recreated on your next boot.

They may not be anything wicked at all. I do recall a past program (firewall or virus checker - not sure) that did "exactly" as you described. Couldn't delete, except in DOS, and with name changes on reboot or after deletion.
If you can peer inside them there might be a clue in amongst the rubbish. Jboy's file viewer is an option or just copy one to some spare folder and change the extension to .txt - quite safe then, and it will open in NotePad.
There ARE hits in Google (although mainly related to XP and some "terminal service"). Use "jet .tmp files" in the Search string and look in Google Groups too. I left out the figures in the search because they were obviously a variable, as you described.
Derek.W

thanks all. derek, i tried to copy the "jet" files and rename the extension. they wouldn't let me. i then just deleted the temp folder as suggested by daveincaps. on reboot, the comp went straight into safe mode. while there, i went to system properties, performance tab. in a lower box, it read: a,c,d,e and f were running in 'msdos compatibility mode' and performance could suffer because of it. still in safe mode, i unchecked all the avast startups, then rebooted. system resources flew up to 98%. it must have been the avast scanner. but rebooting back in to safe mode still gave me the system properties "msdos compatibility mode" warning for a,c,d,e and f. what is that?

Safe mode always shows the drives in msdos compatibility mode. If everything else is OK then I don't think you have anything to worry about. Does it boot OK to normal mode?

You don't have to rename files in order to view them with Notepad etc - either open from within the application or else make use of the ever-so-handy "SendTo" folder
Give me ambiguity or give me something else

Spot on of course. Sometimes (strangely) I've found posters find change to .txt easier. Backfired on this one tho.
Derek.W

Just thought I'd mention it for posterity since the issue seems to have been resolved. Still highly recommend 'List' too - it's not limited like Notepad and won't bog down if it encounters 'control characters' etc. I am biased though - been using it since the DOS days to poke around inside of files.
Give me ambiguity or give me something else

Yeah, I have some file peering proggies on board
... and stop nicking my name LOL. Still, at least
you don't send PM's to yourself.Derek.W

thanks for the tip jboy, even though the 2 temp files wouldn't let me 'send them to' anything, i will keep that function in mind. daveincaps, i think the problem is the avast software. i had placed in my autoexec.bat file the deltree line to delete the windows temp folder on bootup and avast was using that folder to put its files on. since they couldn't be deleted, all boot ups sent me directly to safe mode. every time the win temp folder was re-created, more resources were being taken up (now this is what I think is going on and i'm nowhere near as good as diagnosing problems as are you dave, jboy and derek!). i have removed the deltree line from the autoexec.bat file and will settle on 85% resources at startup. on a side note, this has been a bother trying to deal with the antivirus solutions needed to stay protected on the internet. i get angry at my paid for CA eTrust antivirus solution for letting the GAobot virus through to my comp, ditching it for avast (which found that same virus in the first place!) only to put up with avast resource and configuration issues. oh well, as long as i can keep surfing! i want to thank all 3 of you very much for your help. you will never know how much your valuable insights into this odd computer world have helped me. not only now but in the past as well.

I'm very convinced Avast was the culprit, it sounds sooo familiar (mine was probably an early form of AVG, or Norton AV). Never did work out what they were actually "for" but the symptoms were identical.
Glad you are sorted whatever, see you around.
Derek.W

Sure - it sounds a little odd, but it must have something to do with deleting the temp files - if you're starting with 85% resources, that's darned good.
Give me ambiguity or give me something else

Abstract. . . .
The files are the Jet Engine DLL/drivers for Avast Anti Virus protection. You can not delete them because they are running. New ones are created each time it boots up, so after a while you will get a small group of these, the ones it lets you delete are old and currently unused. Unless your dumping Avast would pay to leave the two you can not delete alone.
The Avast folder that is created under Temp is where the update lands before its installed/placed into the Avast Program File area. The folders are usually empty, and can be safely deleted. They will be recreated at each time Avast goes and checks for updates.
Cheers
OS
"Suppose you were an idiot ... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself." --Mark Twain

Ole Schooler
Thanks for the exact information on this.
It seems several of us were thinking along those lines but it is better to know for certain and the reasons why.
Derek.W

I tried Avast, as I stated in response #2 and saw the files in the temp folder. The placement of those files in THAT folder were my main reason to remove this program. I regularly, for better or worse, delete all files in the temp and windows temp folders and didn't like the fact those files resided there.

OtheHill
Yep, I partly share your view on this - I don't like spare files kicking around either.
Having said that I had this with some previous AV as mentioned, probably an early version of AVG.
When this happens it is no big deal. I use batch files and if necessary you just have to exclude the ones that have to be left in place. I don't regard this as an important enough reason to dump a program but everyone to his own.
Derek.W

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