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Has anyone used Partion Resizer freeware by John Lagonikas. I tried and it worked great on partitions that are not my boot partition. My boot partition is running out of space, so I cleaned up one of my other partitions and then deleted it using fdisk. I am now trying to increase the boot(c) drive using Partition Resizer. When I try to resize the partition it won't go any larger. According to John's FAQ, there is no space left at the end of the drive. First question, by drive does he mean physical drive. I had 4 partitions on the drive and I have dropped 2 of them so now it looks to me like I have a partition, then some unallocated space, the 2nd partition, and then some more unallocated space. This looks to me like I have space both at the end of the first partition and at the end of the drive according to the map the Partition Resizer shows me. Does anyone have any ideas I can try?
If that program works (and that's an if) you have to have contiguous space. That is not what you are describing.
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"First question, by drive does he mean physical drive."
Yes.
"I had 4 partitions on the drive and I have dropped 2 of them so now it looks to me like I have a partition, then some unallocated space, the 2nd partition, and then some more unallocated space. This looks to me like I have space both at the end of the first partition and at the end of the drive according to the map the Partition Resizer shows me."
The situation you probably have is this:
- the first partition is a Primary partition.
- the second, third, and fourth partitions are/were Logical partions within one Extended partition.What you must do is re-size the Extended partition to shrink it so that it starts to the right where the end of the deleted second of the four partitions was which is now unallocated space. Then the unallocated space between the end of the existing Primary partition and the start of the Extended partition will be available for you to make the Primary partion larger.
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Oops.
""First question, by drive does he mean physical drive.""
"Yes."
I should have said No.
He means in this case there is no available space at the end of the drive partition - the Primary partition in this case - the second partition is deleted, but the beginning of the unallocated space is still the beginning of the Extended partition.
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If you like you could Move the existing third partion to the end of the drive, then re-size the Extended partition so that it starts where the beginning of that Logical partition was moved to, making all of the available unallocated space available from the delted original 2nd and 4th partition available to expand the Primary partition into.
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Tubesandwire,
From what you describe I thought thats what I have. The first partition I have (C:) runs from cylinder 0 to 260. the only other partition I have runs from 387 to 850. Doesn't this mean I have free space between 260 and 387. I can't say for sure but during my testing yesterday I thought I was able to enlarge the last partition on the physical drive, which made me start to think this was the only partition that could be enlarged.
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It sounds like a bug in the program to me. If there is unallocated space after the first partition, the first partition 'should' be capable of being expanded.
I'm sure Partition Magic would do it.
Do yourself a favor BACKUP!
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bccamper and ham30 - neither of you are "getting it".
You can't use more than one Primary partition in Win 98SE. If you want to make more than one partition on a hard drive, if the Primary partition doesn't occupy the entire drive, the rest of the unallocated space that isn't in the Primary partition can be made one or more Extended partitions. An Extended partition isn't usable as is - you have to make at least one Logical partition within the Extended partition, then you can format the Logical partition and use it.
In this case there is probably the usual default one Extended partition, which was divided into three Logical partitions.
bccamper has deleted the first and third Logical partitions, which are also the second and fourth partitions on the drive.The Primary partition cannot be made larger because even though the first logical partition has been deleted, the beginning of the Extended partition that enclosed what were the three logical partitions is still in the same place. You have to shrink the Extended partition, and Move it away from the end of the Primary partition so that it's beginning is to the right in the graphical bar chart in Partition Resizer program - if you want to be able to make the most unallocated space available to expand the Primary into, the beginning of the Extended partition should be at least be moved to the end of what was the end of the deleted 2nd partition, the first logical partition. If he wants to use all of the space made available by deleting what was the second (1st logical) and fourth (3rd logical) partition, he could shrink the size of the extended partition so that it is the same size as the existing third partition (the 2nd logical partition), and Move the
Extended partition with that logical partition within it to the end of the drive, making all of the unallocated space available to expand the Primary partition into.
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According to Bccamper, the gap after the first partition is indicated as 'unallocated space'. Unallocated space normally means that it is not assigned to any partition.
Do yourself a favor BACKUP!
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I understand what you're saying Tubes. Your saying that the unallocated space is still part of the extended partition. But I would think that when the drive was removed, the extended partition should have been shrunk and the space freed. I don't remember ever runnimg into this particular problem.
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AURGHHH!
The extended partition does not shrink automatically!
The Primary partition cannot be made larger because even though the first logical partition has been deleted, the beginning of the Extended partition that enclosed what were the three logical partitions is still in the same place.
When you first make an extended partition, all of the space within it is unallocated, logical partition wise!
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Maybe Bccamper should check the extended partition's size with fdisk and see what it says.
Do yourself a favor BACKUP!
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Ok Tubes, if you say the extended doesn't shrink automatically, I believe you and after thinking about it, it does sound logical.
Sorry to get you so upset! :-)
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Think of the end of the primary partition as having two barriers at the same location - one is the end of the Primary partition and the beginning of the Extended partition, the other is the beginning of the the first Logical partition in the Extended partition. bccamper has removed one barrier by deleting the first logical partition, the second partition on the drive, but the other barrier - the beginning of the Extended partition - is still there.
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In this same situation, if I had used Partition Magic it clearly shows you graphically that the Extended partition is still there undeneath where the deleted Logical partition was after you delete the Logical Partition. It sounds like this Partition Resizer program does not show you that.
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"AURGHHH!"
wasn't meant to signify anger - just frustration.
I try to avoid actually getting full blown angry anymore - the adrenaline rush is too hard on me, literally - my damn heart beats hard for several hours and I feel awful.
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- 'denial' & 'rationalization' -
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie!'... till you can find a rock
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Thanks, got it Tubes. When a drive in the extended partition is deleted, the space is still reserved for the extended partition.
Maybe even Partition Magic will be unable to do anything about that.Do yourself a favor BACKUP!
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I did some testing.
1) Took hdd with 1 pri and extended partition with 1 logical drive.2) Used PM to place the logical partition so there was about 600mb between the begaining of extended. and the logical partition within it, with 6oomb of free spase to the end.
My drive now has 1 pri.partition 1.6g ,extended partiton 1.8g, (6m of unolated space-logical drive 6m and 6m unaloted space, basicly what OP likely has).3)used Partition Resizer version 1.3.4 , had no problem increasing the size of the Pri. partition to the beganing of the logical drive. Program automaticly did the needed work to also change the start of the extended partition. how hdd has pri. 2.2g, ext. 1.2g with 1 logical 6m and 6m free space.
Tubes-You are correct on your thinking but Partition Resizer had no problem in automaticly dealing with it.
{You can't use more than one Primary partition in Win 98SE} that statement is not correct, 98 can handle 4 primary partitions in the Partition Table its just that FDISK will not make them, a third party program will. On my main comp I do have more than 4 primary partitions on 1 hdd.
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Hello everyone,
Partition magic will allow you to resize an extended partition to its minimum size allowing you to free the unallocated space.
Partition resizer is another freeware possibility for resizing primary and extended partitions.
Also remember if your primary partition is FAT (as opposed to FAT32), you will not be able to increase its size above 2 GB. You would have to convert it to FAT32 first.
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Actually FAT16 will go to 4GB, the 2GB limit is a MS-DOS/w9x limit. NT4/W2K/XP and PTS-DOS all recognize 4GB FAT16 partitions.
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