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Name: RichLaF
Date: January 27, 2006 at 10:39:59 Pacific
OS: win98, first edition
CPU/Ram: pent II/256
Comment:

I am going to upgrade from Win98 to Win98SE, and will format my harddrive in the process. I cannot find install disk for Office 97. Also Norton Anti-virus and Lotus Notes were installed by my Wife's employer so I don't have those disks. Can I just copy all the files before I format the harddrive and then copy them back on or do I have to get the installation disks?



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Response Number 1
Name: Dan Penny
Date: January 27, 2006 at 10:59:16 Pacific
Reply:

You need the install software. There are registry entries from the install(s), along with all the files and directories and various entries into system sub systems which are required.

Why not install "over the top"? If it squawks, ensure you make a bootdisk, (and that it works,) boot with CDROM support, rename c:\windows\win.com to win.moc or something. Then, from the A:\> prompt, run setup.

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Response Number 2
Name: max00
Date: January 27, 2006 at 11:00:03 Pacific
Reply:

You have to get the installation disks, or do an upgrade.


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Response Number 3
Name: Dan Penny
Date: January 27, 2006 at 11:01:37 Pacific
Reply:

Forgot to add;
Ensure the install goes to c:\windows, and not c:\windows.000 or somewhere else.

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Response Number 4
Name: RichLaF
Date: January 27, 2006 at 12:00:45 Pacific
Reply:

thanks for the info.
The main reason that I was going to reformat the hard-drive was to eliminate the virtual backup drive that the manufacturer set up. I thought the reformat would solve this problem. If there is another way to lose the virtual drive, then I could certainly try the "over the top" method.


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Response Number 5
Name: Bob (by BigBob)
Date: January 27, 2006 at 13:46:14 Pacific
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Im sure your Wife's employer shouldnt have a problem with loaning her the setup discs if she is working at home for work also

If not I guess you will have to do without or Buy your own copy

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Response Number 6
Name: Dan Penny
Date: January 27, 2006 at 14:24:49 Pacific
Reply:

Can you provide some/any details about "the virtual backup drive", such as name of the utility, version, how it's structured, etc.

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Response Number 7
Name: RichLaF
Date: January 27, 2006 at 16:33:15 Pacific
Reply:

The virtual drive is set up byPowerQuest(R) Drive Image(TM) Special Edition. The HELP file says:
"Uninstall Backup System...
Do NOT remove the backup system unless you need to reclaim the space that it uses. If you choose this option, you will not be able to do any future backups or restores using Drive Image Special Edition.

When you choose this option your machine will be shut down to DOS mode before the removal takes place. The Drive Image Special Edition executable and all supporting files will be removed from your machine. The backup images will also be deleted.
If the BkpImg folder contains any user files, it will NOT be removed. The backup partition will NOT be removed."

This sounds like it could work but I am not sure what they mean when they say "the partition will not be removed"


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Response Number 8
Name: Dan Penny
Date: January 27, 2006 at 17:31:25 Pacific
Reply:

Open a MSDOS window. Type in;
(hit ENTER after each line)

fdisk

Choose Y for large disks if offered

Choose option #4.

Post that info here.

If there is an EXTENDED partition containing Logical Drives, post that info as well.

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Response Number 9
Name: RichLaF
Date: January 27, 2006 at 18:19:04 Pacific
Reply:

DAN, I entered Fdisk at the msdos prompt and got this message:
"Your computer has a disk larger than 512 MB. This version of Windows
includes improved support for large disks, resulting in more efficient
use of disk space on large drives, and allowing disks over 2 GB to be
formatted as a single drive.

IMPORTANT: If you enable large disk support and create any new drives on this
disk, you will not be able to access the new drive(s) using other operating
systems, including some versions of Windows 95 and Windows NT, as well as
earlier versions of Windows and MS-DOS. In addition, disk utilities that
were not designed explicitly for the FAT32 file system will not be able
to work with this disk. If you need to access this disk with other operating
systems or older disk utilities, do not enable large drive support.

Do you wish to enable large disk support (Y/N)...........? [ ]"

It sounded ominous to me so I did not go further. What will this utility do?



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Response Number 10
Name: TopFarmer
Date: January 27, 2006 at 18:30:52 Pacific
Reply:

select (Y)es and contine with Dan Penny's request. Just do not select options#1,2,or3.
Option #4 just shows the partition information.


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Response Number 11
Name: RichLaF
Date: January 27, 2006 at 18:39:55 Pacific
Reply:

Dan,
here is the info:

Current fixed disk drive: 1

Partition Status Type Volume Label Mbytes System Usage
C: 1 A PRI DOS QY10D0 9711 FAT32 78%
2 EXT DOS 2698 22%

Total disk space is 12410 Mbytes (1 Mbyte = 1048576 bytes)


The Extended DOS Partition contains Logical DOS Drives.
Do you want to display the logical drive information (Y/N)......?[Y]

Display Logical DOS Drive Information

Drv Volume Label Mbytes System Usage
D: DISE_BACKUP 2698 FAT32 100%

Total Extended DOS Partition size is 2698 Mbytes (1 MByte = 1048576 bytes)


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Response Number 12
Name: Dan Penny
Date: January 27, 2006 at 18:50:55 Pacific
Reply:

OK, if you no longer wish to have this utility, go ahead and uninstall it. It resides in the extended partition (Logical drive D:).

"If the BkpImg folder contains any user files, it will NOT be removed. The backup partition will NOT be removed."

I would leave some COPIES of some files (a couple of text file copies?) in this "BkpImg" folder, where ever it resides. (C: or D:)

This way the partition (D:) should be left intact, and you can then format it making it a second data storage drive. The setup for 98SE should then proceed OK.

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Response Number 13
Name: RichLaF
Date: January 27, 2006 at 18:57:43 Pacific
Reply:

Dan,

Thanks for your help!!!!


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Response Number 14
Name: Derek
Date: January 27, 2006 at 19:35:20 Pacific
Reply:

Nice posts Dan - clear and informative.

DerekW


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