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Recovering w/o CD-Drive, Possible?

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Name: Dudley062
Date: September 27, 2004 at 13:51:56 Pacific
OS: Win98
CPU/Ram: Pentium III - 640, 128mgs
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Is it possible to recover your HP from the recovery disk with a USB ZipDrive? My DVD + CDRW drive are not recognized at bootup, and no driver or boot disk is resolving this problem (drive may have died)? I can't get the USB ZipDrive to autorun the recovery disk at bootup. Is this possible? Is there anyway to recover my system without my internal drives working?



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Response Number 1
Name: OtheHill
Date: September 27, 2004 at 14:24:52 Pacific
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If the computer is capable of booting to a network disk you may be able to do it that way. Check you boot options in the BIOS.


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Response Number 2
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: September 27, 2004 at 19:49:15 Pacific
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Make sure a: is the first boot device in cmos/bios setup. Then make sure you have a good bootdisk (try it in another computer). Then try the bootdisk again.


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Response Number 3
Name: Dudley062
Date: September 28, 2004 at 08:44:16 Pacific
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The recovery disk still won't autorun in the ZipDrive when the BIOS is switched from network to SCSI Boot Device. When booting with the bootdisk (from bootdisk.com) my internal drives are not recognized either, only floppy and HDD. My internal drive will open and spin a disk, but the drivers will not load the device at bootup, which makes the drive useless. The USB drive works fine, but will not autorun the Recovery disk.
Any other suggestions would help.
Thanks.


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Response Number 4
Name: OtheHill
Date: September 28, 2004 at 08:50:30 Pacific
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I meant trying to actually boot from another computer on your network, if you have one. Are all your drives properly recognised in your BIOS screens?


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Response Number 5
Name: Dudley062
Date: September 28, 2004 at 09:04:33 Pacific
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No other computers on this network. The internal drives are no longer recognized by the BIOS, which would lead me to believe they have died (the drive opens, and spins a disk though). All connections within the computer are secure.
The real dilemma is rebooting the OS from a USB drive.


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Response Number 6
Name: OtheHill
Date: September 28, 2004 at 09:50:27 Pacific
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I doubt that all your drives have died simutaneously. Try using the Auto detect feature in the drive section of your BIOS. Make sure that both IDE channels are enabled in the BIOS (second or third screen, usually). If your harddrive is not seen in the BIOS you will not be able to ever boot to it. Check the cabling to your drives. If you have a master/slave setup and one or the other is off, both will be fubared. It is possible the IDE and/or floppy controllers are non-functional but this is also kind of doubtful. If the CMOS battery is low or dead the settings in the BIOS could have reverted to default. To check this, enter the BIOS and check the date and time in the first screen. If the BIOS has reverted to default settings the date will be wrong.


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Response Number 7
Name: Dudley062
Date: September 28, 2004 at 16:30:24 Pacific
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The CMOS battery is alive and working. When all drives are set to "auto", the BIOS will recognize the legacy floppy first,then the primary drive (or HDD), then will not recognize any slave or secondary. Both IDE are selected in the BIOS. The cabling of the DVD/CD drive has a slave CD-RW, both cables are connected though. I just can't figure out why the CD drives won't load. The MCDEX does not recognize a CD Drive, either does the generic OakCDrom.sys. I was hoping a reboot would fix all this... maybe not. :(


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Response Number 8
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: September 28, 2004 at 17:16:37 Pacific
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Bypassing the cdrom to recover wouldn't be much help as the problem appears to be hardware and not software.

Go back into cmos/bios setup and make sure both PCI IDE controllers are enabled.

If that's not it, recheck the cabling and jumpers. Try disconnecting one of the drives and see if the bootdisk sees the other.


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