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Name: mloo55
Date: May 25, 2006 at 15:56:11 Pacific
OS: Win98SE
CPU/Ram: 128k
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Normally I have the pc on all day and nothing happens until last week when I returned from work and tried to use the pc and it was frozen It did not respond at all so I have to turn off and then on so it worked fine. When I am using it all is fine but when it is not in use after a half hour it frezees so in the morning when I turn off the win log appeared and it stayed frozen until this moment. What could be the problem. I cleaned the disk,ad-aware,spybot but the problem repeats.
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Response Number 1
Name: Greensystemsgo
Date: May 25, 2006 at 16:01:39 Pacific
Reply:

mine did the same thing, my screensaver was engaging, but when i came back, and disengaged it it would freeze. Try that


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Response Number 2
Name: Vivi (by Violet9)
Date: May 25, 2006 at 18:12:57 Pacific
Reply:

Ok. Look, if your computer freezes up again, press alt ctrl delete down at the same time and close down any programs you don't need (Don't Close Explorer). Once you're done and if nothing happens, switch off the computer manually and wait about 8-10 seconds (to clear the RAM's memory) and switch the computer back on. :)

From,

Vi.


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Response Number 3
Name: curtis74
Date: May 25, 2006 at 18:43:57 Pacific
Reply:

It may be a hardware issue. Check your CPU and mainboard temperatures. There is a good tool for this at this site. It is free to try.

http://www.hmonitor.com/hmonitor.html

Are you hearing any strange noises before your computer freezes? And does it seem to freeze at random?

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Response Number 4
Name: ham30
Date: May 25, 2006 at 19:38:33 Pacific
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Turn off System standby if it's enabled (Display Properties/Screensaver/Power). I've seen several PCs that will not come out of system standby.

Do yourself a favor BACKUP!
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Response Number 5
Name: retroguy
Date: May 26, 2006 at 02:40:52 Pacific
Reply:

what's amazing is that WIN98 on 128MB RAM in your system doesn't need more frequent reboots. It's notorious for memory leaks which demand reboots as the days tick on.


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Response Number 6
Name: jboy
Date: May 26, 2006 at 13:40:50 Pacific
Reply:

... actually, the stated specs are 128K - which really would be amazing.

128 Mb is plenty for 98 - I'm not aware of any 'notorious' memory leaks, but there is the well known resource issue - that, more than anything, is what necessitates the occasional reboot (a Windows Achilles Heel) but is aggravated by poorly coded applications.

Lockups are typically the result of a software conflict, hardware issue, power saving hiccup or dangerously low resources

I would try ham's suggestion - even try disabling power management, and maybe monitor resources with the Windows Resource meter, in order to rule those in or out

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Response Number 7
Name: retroguy
Date: May 28, 2006 at 00:32:53 Pacific
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notorious memory leaks = any application which leaks memory does so in kernel (ring 0) memory. This is extremely unstable and Win98 has poor application management. M$ realized after Win98 that kernel mode applications + the world domination of desktops and 3rd party apps = chaos. So M$ was forced to put 3rd party apps in user mode. (Kernel mode apps are not necessarily bad in highly tested, controlled environments, e.g. Macs)

There were lots of applications which just didn't free up memory.


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Response Number 8
Name: jboy
Date: May 29, 2006 at 14:12:40 Pacific
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"There were lots of applications which just didn't free up memory."

Yes (and I think I said that) - it's poorly coded apps that earned the notoriety - it seems a bit frivolous to place the fault upon 98 when (as you've stated) the problem is due to application coding choices.

It's the pitifully small resource heap that limits Win9x/ME and other DOS based Windows - although the heap is twice the size of that for Win3xx, it's still a weakness

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