Hi all. I used Partition Magic Pro 7 with the following results. Partition achieved, BUT I now have 2 (Yes TWO) Recycle bins. One in each partition. Hang on there is still more. I ghosted partition C onto the new partition D (where the new Recycle bin now lives) I tried to Restore my Ghost backup from the D partition today, but it would not allow me claiming that the 2 partitions were THE SAME! In the "Source" I selected C drive/partition and in the destination, but in the destination, Ghost selected the whole drive and would not let me select only the D partition. (Remember, this is the one with the extra Recycle bin). So I sallied forth and deleted the Ghost images and tried to delete also the second Recycle bin. NADDA! Windows would not let me delete either of the recycle bins. I did a small check by deleting a 'test' folder only to find that the deleted item was going into BOTH the recycle bins!....Very strange!!!! Help!! Regards

Holding down Shift key while selecting the bin for delete will often work in windows if you are willing to ignore the 'system file' warning box and proceed. But in your case there may be two same named folders which present a problem as that is not supposed to ever happen in the first place. Boot to DOS mode and type: Deltree c:\recycled Do it again until you are no longer prompted to deltree as that means the folder was not found. Repeat the command for all drives on your system but change the root drive letter from c: to whatever you have and do them all. Reboot to Windows and throw a file away to the Recycle Bin - then right click the bin and select 'Empty Recycle Bin' and at that point you should have valid working Bin with correct Icons showing Bin status correctly. If your dual Bins don't muck things up, this should have you going. I don't use Ghost in Windows so no advice there but selection of drive/partition/image to/from drive/partition/image depends on the saved image type and possible switches that Ghost opened up with. You may have an errant switch at work when Ghost doesn't do it the way the docs say it should work - I have had that problem before. I recently ghosted an image to partition, it was 2gig FAT32 win95 image to a 1.5 gig FAT16 partition(3.2gig drive total) and I wound up with 2 gig FAT32 win95 as if it didn't matter what FAT level I was at to start with - now I'm not sure I can trust it at all, still learning.

The Recycle bin, the shelliconcache file, the Temporary internet files folder along with others are maintained by Windows. If they are missing then Windows will replace or rebuild them. You are supposed to have a recycle bin in each partition. When any file is modified it's attribute will change to Archive having a check next to it. When you use a back up program to archive it that program will change the properties for that file. It will remove the check next to Archive. Now, when you attempt to copy D back to C it sees that your files have no checks next to Archive and advises you that they are the same so there is nothing to restore. When you make an image of a partition it also includes in the image file the File Allocation Table structure. So, everything mentioned in this thread makes sense to me. It appears that all is in good working order. When using Ghost you must realize what it is that you want to do as each choice will bring about a different result. Drive to Drive will copy the entire hard drive along with all partitions. This option basically reformats the destination drive and overwrites it. If you have only one hard drive than this option can not be used. Partition to Partition will reformat and overwrite the entire partition. Partition to Image creates an image file of the source and simply stores that image file (like any other file) on an alternative partition or drive. HTH Bryan

"I recently ghosted an image to partition, it was 2gig FAT32 win95 image to a 1.5 gig FAT16 partition(3.2gig drive total) and I wound up with 2 gig FAT32 win95 as if it didn't matter what FAT level I was at to start with - now I'm not sure I can trust it at all, still learning." This is what ghost does; copies a sector by sector image, thereby "creating" that exact image on the *other* space. If you copy FAT32 onto a FAT16 partition, you end up with a FAT32 partition, sector by sector. I haven't used it in a while, and I have the original ghost program (before Symantec bought it, Binary Research Ltd.), but depending on what you choose to copy, you can alter the image. Does that make sense? ;>) What I mean is; if you tell it to copy the *drive/partition* to another media space, that other media space becomes what you copy. HTH and does not add to confusion.

Hi Guys. Really good info here thanks. Keep it coming, more given the more learned. :-) I did notice something since posting this problem. The 2 recycle bins actually have different names, one is called "recycle" and the other is called "recycled". Off-hand I can not remember which one was on which partition, but since then I have deleted the Ghost backup and merged the 2 Partitions (using Partition Magic)and then repartitioned again. Now the 2 recycle bins are on C Drive. The new partition this time does not have a "Recycle" bin on it. On the actual desktop only one "recycle bin appears while the other is in the Root Directory somewhere, can't remember as I am using the desktop PC at the moment. And thus the plot thickens! Regards

Obviously Bryan can type faster than me. Bryan got out the words I couldn't find. ;>) As soon as you delete something on the other partition, a "recycled" sub-dir will be created. "Now the 2 recycle bins are on C Drive." I don't understand why you'd have two on C:, unless they have different names, but I still don't see how this could happen.

Thanks Dan, Bryan, it does help. Only real confusion I have is what happens to second partition on FAT16 drive that is now Fat32 drive? Data still valid in that 2nd partition or gone by-by? If I restored orginal FAT16 1st partition would 2nd FAT 16 partion show up with valid working files that I actually should have saved before doing the FAT32 image to it? I will investigate and find out on my own but these questions do keep me on my toes and is the real source of the confusion. Also understand about sector for sector copy but am confused as Ghost processes the source by filenames, at least it appears too. Again, still learning and will get there but lots to look at and figure out first hand.