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I have a 486 66mghz computer with 24 megs of ram. In the past I have loaded win 98 onto a system with the exact type of configuration with out any serious challenges.I have a western digital hard drive (Caviar) 21200 model number- WDAC21200-00H with 1281.9 MB.
Am I to understand that this hard drive has just over 1.2 gigabytes of space?. If so Why am I getting a message NOT ENOUGH MEMORY once I make my selection to install the "Typical" recommended installation software?. I get the message at the bottom of the screen that 17 MB are required for this type of installation. In fact no matter what my selection is, the same message appears. I have dos 6.22 loaded and nothing else. What am I doing that is prohibiting the installation? I have formatted the hard drive, I have even cleared the partition and started from scratch. The original partition listed Dos as having Partition as C:1 Status A Type Pri Dos Volume Ms-Dos_6 Mbytes 122 System Fat 16 with a Usage of 100%.Is this hard drive smaller than I believe it to be?
Thanks in advance.

memory has nothing to do with space on the harddisk. it is the ram that is the bottle neck.
by the way, a 80486 is far too slow for windows 98, even if you should have the required minimum of 32 MB ram.Windows 95 will run very good on your machine

I'm not sure if it will help but ...
I would get rid of Dos 6.22. Get a win98 floppy, format and try an install with it.
Dos 6.22 and Win9X do not get along very well. Win9X is Dos 7.

Could be the partition does not cover the entire hard drive. Anyway, you need an operating system more suited to a computer of that vintage. Perhaps you should consider a stripped-out version of Linux, Windows 95, or GeOS.
Best Wishes,
Bob

A 486 will not recognise a 1.2 Gb hard drive unless you use an overlay utility. Download this from Western Digital.

Hi
go into your bios and try setting the drive paremeters to:
clys:640
heads:64
sectors:63
save and reboot with w98 boot disk. run FDISK enable large disk support. set partitions. exit fdisk reboot with w98 disk and format the drive.
On some drives this will allow older machines to use all the disk capability.
If it doesn't work on yours just reboot and go back into bios and reset to auto. rerun fdisk and reset partitions.
good luck james.

Thanks to all. I've been swamped with urgent family and health matters, but will get to all of your suggestions ASAP.
I will write a follow-up once done.
Thanks again.

Follow-up. Here is what I did and what the result is.
I entered c:\Dos\memmaker
the memmaker program started up just fine and the end results are as follows.
Memory type
Free conventional memory
Before: 576,224
After: 627,760
Change: 51,536Upper memory
Before
After
Change
used by programs
Before:16,880
After: 67,760
Change:50,880
Reserved for Windows
Before:0
After: 0
Change:0
Reserved for EMS
Before:65,536
After: 0
Change:-65,536
Free
Before: 39,216
After: 53,904Expanded memory
Before: enabled
After: disabledQuestion: Why am I still getting the messsage after starting Windows 98 setup:I get to the point where I choose "Typical" setup and shortly after that the following message keeps coming up.
NOT ENOUGH DISK SPACE.
There is not enough disk space to set up windows 98.
Quit setup and free some more disk space.Then rum setup again.DriveC: has insufficient free space
You will need to free an additional 12.5MB to set up Windows 98 with no optional components.To set up windows 98 with the recommended optional components you need to free 33.9 MB
My Partition reads as follows:
Partition c:1
Status A
Type PRI DOS
Volume Label MS-DOS_6
Mbytes 1221
System FAT16
Usage 100%
If you can add any help towards this frustration, please do so.Thanks again.
Gerry Jam

Please read this posting result first before reading the additional comments I made at the end.
ORIGINAL REPLY POSTING:From Name: DoOMsdAY
Date: October 29, 2000 at 07:30:55
Subject: Win98 SE install challenge on older system
Reply:
I'm sure by "The Pirate" you mean butt pirate. Why don't you go out to recess and play with the other kiddies instead of trying out your newfound dirty words on a web board? Gerry, your boot disk you created from your other system will most probably not have format.com and fdisk.com on it - the two files you need to create partitions and then format them. Warning: Make sure you have nothing you want to keep on your old system as the following will destroy any data on the drive. First off, go to http://www.bootdisk.com and follow one of the links to download a Windows 98 boot disk - it will be the one that normally comes with the 98 CD. Follow any instructions on the site with the boot disk as each place does it a little differently as far as extracting the disk to a floppy. After that's all done, boot your old system with the boot disk. You will get a boot menu - choose to not load the CD-ROM and boot into a command prompt (don't know the exact wording.) Every time I tell you to reboot from here on in, choose that menu option when prompted until I say otherwise. When at the A:\> prompt, type fdisk [Enter]. You will be prompted if you would like to enable large disk support, choose Yes. (That's how you allow it to create FAT32 vs. FAT16 partitions.) Now you should be at a screen that allows you to create partitions, delete partitions, display partitions and create logical drives I believe. You want to delete partitions. First off, though, choose option [4] Display Partition Information (or whatever) to see how many partitions you have defined. If you have logical drives in extended partitions, you have to delete those first, then the extended partitions, then the primary partition. So after you see what you have, back out to the main menu and choose the option to delete partitions and choose as is appropriate to remove them in the above stated order. When that's all complete, choose to create a partition - then a primary partition. When prompted, choose Yes for "Use full disk and make active". Let it go, then [Esc] out of the program when it's done. You will need to Ctrl+Alt+Del and reboot as it will say when you're back at the DOS prompt. When once again at the A:\> prompt (after a reboot), type format c: /u [Enter]. It will warn you that this will destroy all data, choose Yes to continue. It'll probably take a while. When it's done, it'll ask you for a label. Just hit [Enter] at that prompt. When you're finally at the A:\> prompt again, reboot and this time choose the option from the boot disk startup menu to install Windows 98. That should do it - post if you have any problems.After following the above instructions I was able to get past the Not enough Disk Space Message.
The install went 100%, I rebooted, then I got a message something like, type in the integrated command example ( or something like that ). The example I was given was C:\Windows\Command.com.Not knowing what exactly I was doing or to do, I typed in the exact example but got the same message.I rebooted with the Win 98 startup disk and when asked, I chose to start with CD-Rom support.I got to the A:\prompt and eventually located the COMMAND.COM line in my D drive.
I rebooted once again with the Win98 startup disk and at the A:\ prompt I entered my CD-Rom drive letter in my case it was E:\, went through the entire install process again and when asked to type in the integrated command I typed D:\COMMAND.COM. and got the same frustrating message.
In frustration I rebooted again with the Win98 startup disk in drive A:\ , again, when asked how to start, I chose to start with the CD-Rom support. After the reboot I was at the A:\ prompt. I inserted the DOS 6.22 disk 1 and typed setup, I was prompted to press Control+Alt+Delete to reboot with Disk 1 in Drive A:\. This began the Dos 6.22 install process.Unfortunately during this process the Dos program began to automatically format my C drive, I could not stop this process.After the Dos 6.22 program was finished, I removed disk 3 and rebooted to finally come up at the C:\ prompt. I inserted the Win98 CD in the CD-Rom, typed D:\setup and the windows setup program began without any problems.After approximately 45 - 60 minutes, the program was installed.I chose the "compact" setup.From there I was able to pick and choose what I wanted and didn't want.After the entire Win98 program was installed, I rebooted then I installed Microsoft Office 2000. It seems that the issue of RAM when installing windows 98 on a 486 66Mghz with only 24 megs of RAM really didn't matter, as I found out.
Foot Note: Will I be acquiring more RAM? YES!!. I will boost my RAM up to at least 32 megs in the near future.
Good luck to all who can follow my experience with hopeful success.
Gerry Jam.

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