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Name: Murrayk
Date: January 30, 2005 at 08:40:01 Pacific
OS: Win98SE
CPU/Ram: 133/40
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I am running Win98SE on my computer... and tried this on the DOS forum but was told told "DOS FORUM!!! and that 'this is where the dinosoars hang out' and then attacked with pocket savers, I am trying to install the old INFOCOM games from disk on my computer. I get told, when I am trying to install them, that I am using the incorrect DOS version and that I should try upgrading (From Win 98!) to either DOS 3, 4, or 5. So I got DOS 5 and created a boot disk, but when I did it would not recognize my hard drive to install the games to it, saying it was an invalid drive specification. I think both might be FAT32. I used FDISK and found that I have my HD partitioned so that my C drive is NONDOS, but my smaller D: drive is EXT DOS, but when I boot from my dos disk, it will not recognize either drive. How can I get this program onto my C or D drive? I tried putting setver into the config.sys file, but that didn't work.
Go slowly. I'm dumb.



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Response Number 1
Name: StuartS
Date: January 30, 2005 at 09:43:33 Pacific
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Warning!

Installing DOS 5 onto a computer with Windows 98 already installed will almost certain clobber the Windows 98 installation, if that hasn't already been done.

The reason you are getting NONDOS for Drive C: is probably because you are using a DOS 5 version of Fdisk which will not recognise Fat32 or large capacity disks.

>> I should try upgrading (From Win 98!) to either DOS 3, 4, or 5. <<

Err, thats not an upgrade. That is defiantly a down grade. Windows 98 runs on top of DOS 6.

If you want to run Ifocom games all you need to do is boot to DOS mode with Windows 98 installed and run the game. If it wont work under Windows 98 DOS mode then you may need to install an EARLIER version of DOS, not a later version.

It will probably run fine under Windows 98 DOS mode but needs a Fat16 partition to install into.

Stuart


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Response Number 2
Name: ham30
Date: January 30, 2005 at 10:05:58 Pacific
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Excellent advice from Stuart (as usual), but one minor correction. Win98 is Dos 7.


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Response Number 3
Name: jboy
Date: January 30, 2005 at 10:09:21 Pacific
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"but was told told "DOS FORUM!!! and that 'this is where the dinosoars hang out' and then attacked with pocket savers,"

Funny - 'cause that seems only to have happened in your imagination

Not a good start.

Win98 runs ontop of DOS7.1 (more or less) and any disk or partition larger than 2Gb has to be FAT32.

Older DOS just won't work with FAT32 - it's hard to say if yur game requires an older DOS version or is just incompatible with FAT32 - not everything from the '80s will work under 9x

I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?


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Response Number 4
Name: Murrayk
Date: January 30, 2005 at 11:22:36 Pacific
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Thanks for all that. It was useful. I am aware that going from Win98 to Dos 3 would be a downgrade, and was only reporting what the program stated. I have tried to run this program in the Dos window, and it won't run. It tells me I am using the wrong DOS version (which apparently is DOS 7 ish). But when I use a boot disk of either DOS 5 or DOS 6.2, it will not recognize my Hard drive....both are FAT32. One is only a .7 G, so perhaps I can format it to FAT 16?
Also, please note that the GAME, once installed, seems to run fine..it is the installation program that puts the game on the hard drive that seems to not want to work in WIN 98. It will install from DOS 5, but it can't find a place to install to. So, I am starting to understand the problem....anyone able to offer a possible solution?


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Response Number 5
Name: seawatch
Date: January 30, 2005 at 12:04:19 Pacific
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Find yourself an older drive, naybe 3, 4 gigs and format it as a FAT 16.

Then run all your older DOS games off that drive.

Not only will you not mess up a perfectly good Win98 set up, but you'll have a drive you can wipe anytime you want and install any game without one game's settings conflicting with another's.

Larry


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Response Number 6
Name: Murrayk
Date: January 30, 2005 at 12:54:35 Pacific
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A 3-4 gig drive would be bigger than the one I am now using! Thanks for all the advice, but I have managed to solve the problem, which I explained in this thread: 15446

I also explained my overzealous imagination re: the dinosoars.

I was able to get the program installed and working in Win98 Dos, but not sure if it was because of using setver or because I picked a way of doing it that did not require the installation program to check for a compatible dos version. Thanks again for everything.


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Response Number 7
Name: sekirt
Date: January 30, 2005 at 22:22:55 Pacific
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On Windows 98 there is also: mkcompat.exe

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\mkcompat.exe

That is to make DOS programs compatible.

sekirt


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Response Number 8
Name: Mechanix2Go
Date: January 30, 2005 at 22:51:50 Pacific
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Murray the K and the swingin' soiree ?

M2


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