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Name: dwilliamsamh
Date: November 29, 2007 at 10:49:10 Pacific
OS: Windows: 98, NT 4.0, XP P
CPU/Ram: P4/512 MB
Product: Dell
Comment:

I have hours and hours into making a Bootable CD that will run Ghost 8.x (because the Ghost Boot wizard *sucks*) so that I can restore a standard image in Dell PC's that have no floppies. I know I could just use a portable floppy but the idea here is:

1) So that those with almost no knowledge can do this with as little trouble as possible. The target users don't have a USB Floppy Drive.

2) It HAS to be possible and I just won't give up. I'm stubborn that way. LOL

I have the Boot CD, and it's various program's drivers etc working so that machine boot's and goes all the way to trying to load Ghost (the Ghost executable is 1.36 MB By itself) and then I get an error saying the program is too large to load.

I have already made sure that I am using Himem.sys and emm386 properly, am loading DOD high,UMB etc. I have stepped through the startup files during boot, and there are no missing files or errors.

Now here's the "funny" part. If I just stick a floppy in a USB drive and try to run Ghost from the floppy, it works like a champ. Ghost loads and functions as one would expect. Here are my Autexec.bat, and Config.Sys files:

Config.sys:

[menu]
menuitem=FROMFLPY, This computer was started from a Ghost boot disk
menuitem=FROMCD, This computer was started from a CD created by Ghost.exe

[FROMFLPY]
DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM=OFF
DEVICE=EMM386.EXE /RAM
DEVICEHIGH=OAKCDROM.SYS /D:mscd001

[FROMCD]
DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS /TESTMEM=OFF
DEVICE=EMM386.EXE /RAM
DEVICEHIGH=OAKCDROM.SYS /D:mscd001

[COMMON]
FILES=10
BUFFERS=10
DOS=HIGH,UMB
STACKS=9,256
DEVICEHIGH=RAMDRIVE.SYS /E 2048
LASTDRIVE = Z
_________________________________________

Autoexec.bat:

@echo off
SET TZ=GHO+05:00
prompt $p$g
lh mscdex /L:D /d:mscd001
lh MOUSE.COM
echo Loading Ghost...
D:
cd ghost
GHOST.EXE -nousb
____________________________

I know the "Menu" regarding Floppy or CD is probably irrelevant since this is designed to work entirely from a CD, but I just didn't want to change what was working, and that part "ain't broke."

Here is the list of files on the boot CD, just in case:

Ghost ..... DIR (yes it contains Ghost.exe)
Autoexec.bat
Command.com
Config.sys
Emm386.exe
Himem.sys
Io.sys
Mouse.com
Mouse.ini
Mscdex.exe
Msdos.sys
Oakcdrom.sys
Ramdrive.sys
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Any help you can offer to get over this one last hurtle would be much appreciated.

Doug




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Response Number 1
Name: OtheHill
Date: November 29, 2007 at 15:17:48 Pacific
Reply:

Don't know if this will help at all but below is the contents of the Ghost 2003 Emergency recovery disks.

Disk 1
GHOST empty 0KB
USB 2 files total 245KB
aspi2dos.sys 35 KB
aspi4dos.sys 15 KB
aspi8dos.sys 38 KB
aspi8u2.sys 44 KB
AUTOEXEC.BAT 1 KB
COMMAND.COM 53 KB
CONFIG.SYS 1 KB
IBMBIO.COM 44 KB
IBMDOS.COM 42 KB
MOUSE.COM 37 KB
MOUSE.INI 1 KB

Disk 2
GHOST (Ghost.exe) 1001KB
AUTOEXEC.BAT 1 KB


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Response Number 2
Name: mavis007
Date: November 30, 2007 at 00:59:24 Pacific

Response Number 3
Name: The Count
Date: December 1, 2007 at 10:52:33 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Doug, OtheHill, mavis007, hi everyone

I have a strong feeling that with simply increasing the number of files and buffers to respectively 60 and 20 should get you going and finish your quest.

You might consider to instead of using DEVICE=EMM386.EXE /RAM in your Config.sys file to use DEVICE=EMM386.EXE /NOEMS.

Are you sure your CD-ROM drive is assigned the drive letter D:? I am asking because I noticed you are also loading a RAM disk, why?
What is your intention with SET TZ=GHO+05:00 in your Autoexec.bat?

In random order some useful resources, one doesn't always have to reinvent the wheel by themselves. :-)
How To Create A Bootable Ghost Rescue CD Tutorial
(http://users.pandora.be/satcp/ghostresq01.htm)
Creating Bootable CD/DVD's Without A:\Floppy Drive
(http://nightowl.radified.com/bootcd/bootcdintro.html)
Radified Guide to Norton Ghost
(http://ghost.radified.com/)

Best Regards and Wishes,
The Count, Co-webmaster of mesich.com


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Response Number 4
Name: dwilliamsamh
Date: December 4, 2007 at 06:00:37 Pacific
Reply:

Count,

Thanks for your suggestion. I had a suspicion that the "Files" and "Buffers" settings might be the culprit. To be honest it has been so long since I regularly dealt with Config.sys and Auto exec, that i couldn't remember valid settings for files and buffers.

I tried your setting and it works like a champ!. Now all I have to do is get some SATA optical disk drivers that will work in DOS so I can make a Ghost boot CD for PC's containing both types of optical drive! Wooooo Whoooooooo!

To everyone who tried to help, thanks for your suggestions. I will try to return the favor here at Computing.net if I can.

Thanks,

Doug


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Response Number 5
Name: The Count
Date: December 5, 2007 at 02:25:48 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Doug, OtheHill, mavis007, hi everyone

Glad to see I could have been of help. :-)
Thanks for posting back, it's very much appreciated.

The above settings for Files and Buffers are the recommendations as mentioned in the provided links, personally I have/had my Files and Buffers settings set to 90 and 40.
Back in the old days I had the value for Stacks set to 0,000.

You may also consider to add Smartdrv.exe to the root of your CD/DVD and add the line:
lh Smartdrv.exe to your Autoexec.bat prior to loading Mscdex.exe. If you do, you may experience a slight improvement in performance.

As for the SATA DOS driver, I found this one through the third link provided above.
(http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi?board=general;action=display;num=1171774390)

HTH

Best Regards and Wishes,
The Count, Co-webmaster of mesich.com


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Response Number 6
Name: clive_pearce
Date: December 14, 2007 at 07:13:17 Pacific
Reply:

This might be a bit late.

If you install ghost onto the Dell, & if you have a dvd/cd writer you can make a clone/image. The first disk in the set will be bootable. You don't have to install the full set, but the first disk will get you to the ghost (dos) interface.

Failing that, Hirens Boot cd has a version of ghost that loads the usb dos drivers, so you could ghost to a usb drive.

If, you just want to make your own ghost boot cd, as an exercise.

I'll shut up & mind my own business.

Before posting try google. Backup. Use anti virus software.


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