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Name: jasa
Date: June 5, 2006 at 13:04:14 Pacific
Subject: Installing Windows 95 From Floppy??
OS: Win 95
CPU/Ram: Ram:16mb CPU:Dont know
Model/Manufacturer: IBM
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I have an old imb thinkpad.I have ms dos on it but only 1gb data.I have a full legal disk with win 95 and want to install it.The only pro is the labtop dont have a cd rom.I would have put the files on the hdd but i cant transfer files to it as there is no way of doing it.


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Response Number 1
Name: jasa
Date: June 5, 2006 at 13:05:56 Pacific
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sorry for double post but i dont have any way of transfering it as i dont have the cables or ports to insert a cable.:)


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Response Number 2
Name: jessejames
Date: June 5, 2006 at 14:10:35 Pacific
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MS-DOS6 comes with Interlink software, you only need a Parallel Port Laplink Cable and another MS-DOS6 PC/Laptop:

http://www.nukesoft.co.uk/msdos/command.php?id=55

See also:

http://www.computing.net/dos/wwwboard/forum/14896.html


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Response Number 3
Name: jasa
Date: June 5, 2006 at 14:46:09 Pacific
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i dont have any kinda ports on my computer>Plus i aint go any cables that would work.I need to split the disk into floppys disks.How can i do that with just ordinary floppys?


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Response Number 4
Name: jessejames
Date: June 5, 2006 at 15:18:23 Pacific
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Also there has been several versions of W95, but the following may give some pointers:

http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w95_floppies.html


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Response Number 5
Name: Petit Jean
Date: June 5, 2006 at 15:35:18 Pacific
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To load Win95 from diskettes you need one boot disk like dos 7.1 boot disk and a disk set of the Win95 cab files.Disk 0 is for all the loose files left after copying the balance from disk one up.Disk 1 is Precopy1 file.Disk 2 is Precopy2 and Cab2,disk 3 is Cab3,Disk4 is Cab4 etc. to the last cab file.Assemble your set and start the setup by booting the computer to a dos prompt.Change to 'A' dos prompt and run setup.You need 27 diskettes for Win95b or Win95c,21 diskettes for Win95a and 13 diskettes for Win95 first ed. Good luck.


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Response Number 6
Name: jasa
Date: June 5, 2006 at 16:02:00 Pacific
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so when the files are on the floppies can i install from the floppies or must i copy them across to my hdd??


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Response Number 7
Name: Jennifer SUMN
Date: June 5, 2006 at 17:17:17 Pacific
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If you have the floppies (13 in all) you can install from them. Attempting to copy the Cd to floppy and install won't work very well. You'll have no idea what cab files go on what floppy.

I'd go to ebay and buy a full set. There are bunches of them listed there.

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Response Number 8
Name: Petit Jean
Date: June 5, 2006 at 19:15:53 Pacific
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Copy the files from the CD to the diskettes as indicated using a working desktop computer and it should work just fine.The Windows 95 system used to be on diskettes or CD.Some files,the cab files, are bigger in size than the standard 1.44 Mb diskette allows.You need to format the diskette to DMF size with a program like Superformat.This format is 1.68 or 1.72 Mb in size.You can use one or the other.Good luck.


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Response Number 9
Name: T-R-A
Date: June 6, 2006 at 00:55:12 Pacific
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However, if it's the Win95 Upgrade CD, your .cab files will be 2.048MB (no formatting utility will format floppies to that size). If that's the case, you can compress (WinZip) the entire Win95 directory on the CD to a spanned set of floppies, then use PKUnzip on the DOS Laptop to uncompress it to a folder on the HDD and install from there...


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Response Number 10
Name: Jennifer SUMN
Date: June 6, 2006 at 07:29:05 Pacific
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Jean has a good suggestion. It depends on how valuable your time is.. Personally, I'd just get the set from eBay. :)

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Response Number 11
Name: ham30
Date: June 6, 2006 at 10:32:17 Pacific
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There is one 'possible' problem. You 'might' have to have a Win 3 floppy to prove prior ownership of windows. Check on that before you spend any money.

Do yourself a favor BACKUP!
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Response Number 12
Name: Petit Jean
Date: June 7, 2006 at 08:39:35 Pacific
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When you install some programs or hardware,you may be prompted to supply files from the Windows 95 setup diskettes or CD.In this case for the laptop you have you will find it handy to keep a copy of the Windows 95 diskettes set for future use.Good luck.


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Response Number 13
Name: steppenwolf1
Date: June 7, 2006 at 10:01:01 Pacific
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cant you get a cd rom an external drive?

i have 3 copies of the floppies =look on ebay theyre 10 to 40 dollars i think

if youre in usa you could also email halfprice books and they could mail them or overseas i guess too


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Response Number 14
Name: steppenwolf1
Date: June 7, 2006 at 10:03:57 Pacific
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http://www.halfpricebooks.com/


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Response Number 15
Name: melee5
Date: June 8, 2006 at 03:28:49 Pacific
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Jasa, your best bet would be to use WinZip to span each cab file across two floppies to just move the cab files as they exist on your 98 CD to your laptop's hard drive. Along with all the other files in the Win95 folder on your win95 CD, of course. This only requires two floppies and is FREE. You would then change directories to the folder where you stored the cab files and run setup from there. Any number of file splitter programs could also be used to chop down the size of the cab files to where they would fit on standard floppies and then you just use DOS's Copy file1+file2 file3.cab to reassemble the split files, it's not rocket science and it works good.

BUT you are trying to do this on a laptop and laptops often require custom forms of Windows available only from the laptop maker, in this case IBM. There is no way around this problem, off the shelf Windows just don't work too good with laptops, don't say you weren't warned about it. You'll be out a whole bunch of time, effort and saddled with a fouled up win95 install trying to take over your DOS machine.

Laptops typically also need to have a hidden partition that holds partial BIOS functions and special drivers like a CDROM driver (if you had one, it would be in there). If your attempts to install win95 foul things up so horrible that you wind up wipeing your hard drive to 'fix' it, you need a Restore CD to remake the hidden partition so your laptop can boot in the first place. Not a fun place to be, so check with IBM for any and all floppies or CDs available for your laptop BEFORE you do a single thing.


Lee


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Response Number 16
Name: mosaddique
Date: June 14, 2006 at 02:31:11 Pacific
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This may be what you are looking for.
How to create floppies from a Win95 CD

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Response Number 17
Name: mosaddique
Date: June 14, 2006 at 02:33:50 Pacific
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One more thing, I have used this method in the past and it WORKS.

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Response Number 18
Name: jasa
Date: June 18, 2006 at 04:25:33 Pacific
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http://home.satx.rr.com/badour/html/w95_floppies.html

I used this method but when getting win95_02 and precopy2 it says at hte end the perameter is incorrect.But i forrmated with superformat so there is plentty of sapce.?


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