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I want my channel bar!

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Name: bookworm_2
Date: April 14, 2008 at 19:41:45 Pacific
OS: Windows 98SE
CPU/Ram: Cyrix 5x86, 24Mb
Product: IBM Thinkpad 365ED
Comment:

I just got a "new" ThinkPad with Windows 98SE and ie 6. Is it possible to install the channel bar *without* uninstalling ie 6, installing ie 4, and reinstalling ie 6?



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Response Number 1
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: April 16, 2008 at 08:37:44 Pacific
Reply:

What do you mean by "the channel bar"?

98SE did not come with ie 6.x.
If you want to try un-installing it, re-installing it you will find it in Add/Remove programs.

ie 4.x is relatively useless and has been for many years. You will get frequent errors accessing many web sites. ie 5.x is much better, but there quite a few web sites that won't display properly with it these days. You are best off with ie 6.x.


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Response Number 2
Name: melee5
Date: April 16, 2008 at 22:25:07 Pacific
Reply:

It's not possible even if you do " uninstalling ie 6, installing ie 4, and reinstalling ie 6". What you are parroting is an out of date and totally wrong KB article in the first place. One does NOT need to regress back to IE4 in order to install the Active Desktop Update in Win95 in order to have the Channel bar or any other Active Desktop Update feature.

You only get the Channels Bar with the Active Desktop Update installed on Win95 and ONLY with IE 4. By IE 5, the Channels Bar look and feel is gone and of course IE 6 does not run with Win95 if you didn't already know that.

98 has always had the Active Desktop Update installed (no other flavor exists) and no Channels Bar either. The Channels Bar look and feel appears to be writen into an IE 4 dll file somewhere. If you really want it you have to use IE 4 with Win95 or NT4.

All any one ever had to do to install the Active Desktop Update was re-install IE - it's built into the installation wizard to then install the Active Desktop Update automatically. In fact, you can't stop it from happening unless you manually remove the IE4SHL95.CAB file. That KB article and it's advice have always been so much crapola since a better method has always been the option to use.

Lee


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Response Number 3
Name: melee5
Date: April 19, 2008 at 04:11:23 Pacific
Reply:

My bad, sorry. I just got a 98 first edition CD yesterday and discovered that they had channels after all, but it's for IE4 just the same so as in Tubesandwires's response, it's way outdated.

There is a remote possiblity you could capture the look of it by installing the CHLEN_US.CAB 155,718 bytes file anyway, but I won't guarantee anything either way. Just messing around here got me a Channels folder tucked away into my Favorites folder and I can't help but think that they are both the same thing - they just have a different look. You should be able to swipe the look of it after some effort?

Lee


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Response Number 4
Name: Intel 80486 (by meisinscotland)
Date: April 22, 2008 at 22:06:51 Pacific
Reply:

An easy-ish way to get the channel would be to freshly install Windows 98 [not SE!] and use it from there, or put 95 on [much better OS imo] install IE4 with the desktop update, and then install IE 5.5 along with that. It should keep the channel bar [pointless but somewhat pretty addon] while still giving you a relatively decent browsing experience.

Btw like I said the channel bar looks nice but to be honest it's one of the most gratuitous addons I have ever seen, and Microsoft soon stopped rolling with it. Most of the 'channels' won't even function anymore.

Teh uber pwnage laptop: 2006 Medion MIM 2080
256MB RAM, 16MB graphics share, 1500MHz VIA C7, 40GB HD
Windows XP SP2 Home ed., Puppy Linux 2.16.


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Response Number 5
Name: bookworm_2
Date: April 29, 2008 at 21:00:17 Pacific
Reply:

IMHO the channel bar is convinient and kind of cool. The channels are easy to edit. Unwanted channels are easy to delete. New channels are easy to add.

I am going to solve the whole problem by getting a bigger hard drive and installing NT4 for most things and 95 for DOS compatability and games. 98 is too slow to use (almost cmpletely unuseable!) on a 486DX4-100 with 24MB RAM.

Then I'll install ie 4, then 6,(5.5 for 95) and do whatever I want with the channels.

Does anyone here have a notebook hard drive you'd like to sell? I'll need 6-8 gig, prefer 10-20.


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