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How Much Memory possibel?

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Name: Coos Bay Lumber
Date: April 20, 2007 at 13:47:15 Pacific
Subject: How Much Memory possibel?
OS: Win 98 SE
CPU/Ram: 500/128
Model/Manufacturer: H-P
Comment:

How much memory

I loaded up some software back when. Then earlier this month loaded on an update. (Was that ever a mistake) The manufacturer now mentions, I need a bunch of memory (RAM) loaded on too if it is to continue running in Win. 98. It is flat taking much too long to process the files I now find. Per their consultant can take up to 100x longer, without sufficient RAM, for it works the hard drive (which I can see it does). I perhaps ought to add more.

What I got is an older H-P Pavilion, a model 6563Z . The type with a cheap 500 mhz processor. It currently has 128 meg of RAM on board. I'd like to get more going on it. Essentially as much as possible.

The motherboard has two slots for 168 pin DIMM. It also has a bracket that runs along the edge of the memory boards, so cannot get too over done with size vertically, for may not fit.

Will this motherboard support more RAM? Will it support 256 or possibly 512 meg? I see single sticks of 256 meg, 168 pin DIMMs on occasion.

Do you foresee a problem here?

Wm.


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Response Number 1
Name: Derek
Date: April 20, 2007 at 14:03:31 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

From Google it seems it can support up to 256M
http://www.edgetechcorp.com/memory/...

[W98 is OK up to 512M without tweaks so the operating system is not a problem].

What is the software that requires the RAM increase and can you not simply uninstall the update?

DerekW


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Response Number 2
Name: Coos Bay Lumber
Date: April 20, 2007 at 15:27:05 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Oh, many years ago, had been told that certain motherboards would not support big memory. Thus wanted to check here.

The software Mfr. is in the U.K. and it is a CAD conversion program. They reccomend about 512 meg (or better). I thought there to be a hang up with many motherboards not able to handle greater than 256. A few topped out at 384.

Aw, nuts. I think I can borrow two 128 DIMMs from neighbor to see how they work. Problem being is due to arrangements inside the case, it will take 20 minutes to get in there and be able to pop them out.

Wm.


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Response Number 3
Name: jam
Date: April 20, 2007 at 16:50:31 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

The max your system can handle is 256MB. I assume 128MB per slot, but it doesn't specifically state that. Regardless, you have one 128MB already, just add another & you're done.

http://www.crucial.com/store/listpa...



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Response Number 4
Name: Derek
Date: April 20, 2007 at 17:12:50 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

jam

My link in #1 kinda "recommends" the RAM sticks being equally sized, so it does seem that another 128M is the neatest way forward (if the CAD update can't be uninstalled).

DerekW


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Response Number 5
Name: Coos Bay Lumber
Date: April 20, 2007 at 17:38:35 Pacific
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I actually have two of the 64 meg DIMMs in place. Total of 128 then.

When neighbor gets home, should be able to borrow for a while two 128's.

The updated software is already loaded on. And, can't be removed. Per their rep,. it works OK as long as the overall drawing size is small. 99% of their customers must do such. I, however work with ten feet long drawings. Which is when the rep, said to up the memory. Absolutely zero is mentioned else where, that an upgrade to memory is required.

"Oh, didn't anyone tell you?"

In asking to go back to what was when, according to them Nope. Can't be done for it alters your registry. Bleeping out anything will remove the elements, plus take elements shared with other softwares. I didn't write it, I only use it.

Wm.


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Response Number 6
Name: Derek
Date: April 20, 2007 at 17:46:38 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

... just thinking aloud:

If you still have the CD or original download then I guess you could uninstall the lot, reload the original version, then set it up as before.

DerekW


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Response Number 7
Name: Coos Bay Lumber
Date: April 21, 2007 at 08:40:28 Pacific
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No, someone sat on the original CD back two-three years ago. It would take an unusual drive to accept it now.

Remember that old saying of leaving a phonograph recond on a radiator? That is it now, 'cept in a more miniature way. Geepers I am dating my self here. For bet no one knows what an old steam powered radiator was like, much less a hard rubber L.P. disk.

Wm.


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Response Number 8
Name: JPW
Date: April 21, 2007 at 10:24:37 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

I have a HP Pavilion 6465 and was in the same situation as you, and found that both HP & Crucial were saying that it would only handle 256MB of Ram.
I did some research and found out that it would take 512MB of RAM so I bought 2 @ 256MB
PC100 SDRAM and it has worked just fine with 152MB of Ram for about the past year.
So I would say that you should be able to to the same.


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Response Number 9
Name: Coos Bay Lumber
Date: April 21, 2007 at 13:52:51 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Ah good then.

Got the memory sticks from neighbor, and it keeps reporting in at 128 meg, no matter what is installed. May be some unbalanced-ness in his memory.

If it will fit, will then aim at two 256 meg DIMMs. Main problem is in that this is a tiny case and things overlap one another. (Wasn't my idea as to layout)

Wm.


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Response Number 10
Name: Derek
Date: April 21, 2007 at 14:04:45 Pacific
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RAM can be a bit of a black art (single sided, double sided etc). Best to get from a good dealer who can ensure it is right for your particular machine.

DerekW


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Response Number 11
Name: JPW
Date: April 21, 2007 at 19:15:14 Pacific
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Make sure you are installing PC100 MHz SDRAM.
If you are trying to install newer PC133MHz SDRAM most of the Newer PC133 are not backwards compatable with a PC100 MHz motherboard.


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Response Number 12
Name: sidech
Date: May 3, 2007 at 13:41:11 Pacific
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per hp website 256mb max 2x128 pc100


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