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How do you save a screen sub-window?

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Name: Victor Mishiku
Date: July 5, 2002 at 04:45:20 Pacific
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Dear Members,

In all the various computer magazines, where advice is being given as to settings for e-mail programmes for instance "TCI/IP" settings or Internet Properties etc., the magazines are able to show in their magazines the display we get on our monitors at various stages of adjusting the settings.

How is this done I wonder?

I can't see anywhere to "highlight" the sub-window or even press "Save as"

Can anyone do this or do you need a special utility. I have saved whole Web Pages (although of late I keep getting an error message and the progress blue line stops, even though the operation works!) but I do not know how to save and then reproduce a sub-window - which is useful when you are trying to get help so that you can e-mail across what you actually have on screen.

Likewise, the sub-window giving Registry entries, I could not figure out how to save and send that as a screenshot. All I was offered was a chance to print it.

Thank you for any information and help on this query.

Yours sincerely,

Victor Mishiku
(in cloudy West London, Friday 5th July, 2002 sent at about 12.45pm)



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Response Number 1
Name: rac
Date: July 5, 2002 at 05:09:09 Pacific
Reply:

Best way is to use a utility that lets you capture whatever you want on the screen -- the whole screen, an individual window, or just a part of a window. I use Screen Shot Deluxe, but there are several other good ones, too. What you capture can be saved in any of several graphics formats.


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Response Number 2
Name: rctech
Date: July 5, 2002 at 05:47:05 Pacific
Reply:

If you're doing this on a small scale, any active window can be copied by pressing Alt Print Screen. Then you can go to a word processor and paste.


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Response Number 3
Name: dave c
Date: July 5, 2002 at 05:49:49 Pacific
Reply:

Victor, just hold down the ALT button, then hit the PRINT SCREEN button. Open MSPaint (in your Start-Programs-Accessories) and hit EDIT, then PASTE.

Hitting PRINT SCREEN captures the entire screen as a picture. Holding ALT while hitting PRINT SCREEN captures only the active window.

Hope this is what you are looking for!

-Dave C


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Response Number 4
Name: mesich
Date: July 5, 2002 at 05:50:27 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Victor and Rac,

Currently I capture the screen shots by selecting Alt and Prt Scr.
I then paste it into Irfanview.
It is free from here

Once I save it I can then import the screen shot to my web page.

Good Day!
Mesich


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Response Number 5
Name: Victor Mishiku
Date: July 5, 2002 at 05:50:40 Pacific
Reply:

Dear rac,

Please do you have a reference site for your programme?

On a slightly related matter, I have a programme "Picture Viewer.exe" which opens up on certain kinds of files.

I occasionally receive a picture file, but where the picture should be, there is a black screen only.

I notice I have a reference to "Quick View" in my right-click menu and when you click on it it gives a message about a missing file.

I don't think "Quick View" is part of Windows? (the message includes the words C, Windows, and System, Viewers, quikview.exe in it). I thought "Quick View" was a programme that I must have put in once and has got lost now or damaged and deleted.

However, I wonder if I am missing some kind of Windows system file for "viewers" generally?
If so, can I get it back off the CD without reinstalling Windows in its entirety (as I have numerous updates, ASPI LAYER, etc and I had terrible trouble with that before when I got my "PlexWriter" CD-RW)

The Windows version I run is Win98SE.

Thanks again for any further guidance.

Regards,

Victor (1.51pm, 5th July)



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Response Number 6
Name: Victor Mishiku
Date: July 5, 2002 at 06:05:58 Pacific
Reply:

Dear rac, rctech, Dave c and Mesich,

Thank you so much for all the advice and help.

When I replied just a few minutes ago, there was only one response on my screen (from rac).

I am just on my way out now to try to help save a nearly 100 year old splendid house in Ealing, West London threatened by developers and the bulldozer! We have 7,000 objectors to date. The group I am helping voluntarily would like to save the house, restore it and use part of it for a computer teaching centre for disabled/disadvantaged persons and protect the fine garden for horticultural projects (developers would no doubt wish to build over the garden). Although the property was built as a grand private dwellinghouse, the deed restrictions (covenants) wisely imposed in 1901 & 1904 do permit a teaching/school usage within the dwellinghouse (i.e not a new block of flats or office block). This conservation work is my first love!

I will study all your kind suggestions later on when I get back tonight.

Thank you all again very much.

Regards,

Victor.
(sent from West London on Friday 5th July, 2002 at about 2.06pm)


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Response Number 7
Name: rac
Date: July 5, 2002 at 08:08:14 Pacific
Reply:

Victor:

While the alternative for capture mentioned in the other posts certainly works, the utility I use is far more flexible and much easier, which is important to me because I do a lot of screen captures for use in both documents and Powerpoint visuals that I prepare. The cost is $20 US and it can be procured by download from:

http://www.broderbund.com/Product.asp?OID=4145760&SC=1105642&CID=99

Quick View is a Windows utility installed from Accessories in the Windows Setup (accessable in Add/Remove Programs). For it to work, however, you must have an appropriate graphics or other viewer associated with the particular file type you are trying to quick view. An excellent universal (a plethora of file types) graphics viewer (with some editing capabilities thrown in) is Irfanview that mesich mentions in his post. It can be downloaded free at: http://www.irfanview.com/

May you have success in your house preservation endeavors!!

Dick
from hot and humid North Carolina



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Response Number 8
Name: Victor Mishiku
Date: July 5, 2002 at 18:46:45 Pacific
Reply:

Dear Dick (rac),

Thanks again and for your last message with details of the programme. I will check this out over the weekend plus try some of the other ideas and the programme suggested by Mesich.

I was surprised about "Quick View" being in Windows as I thought I had seen it on a magazine disc once. I will check the CD in the "Windows Setup" - I know how to do this one at least!

I am wondering about my programme "Picture Viewer.exe" I have a free programme and it just has a brief message that pops up when you open it up by right-clicking a picture file.

I was thinking of registering it. I sent two e-mails to the manufacturer with a query about a second programme (which I have reproduced below at the end of this posting). As I got no answer to date to
my e-mails, I haven't bought the registered version or the second programme either.

Thanks again.
Regards,
Victor
(Saturday 6th July, 2002 sent at 2.47am)

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The message to the manufacturer read:-

Dear Sirs,
Any chance of a reply to my query? Regards, VM (London).
----- Original Message -----
From: vmfree
To: orders@bmtmicro.com
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 12:27 PM


Softech Intercorp, USA.

Dear Sirs,

In PC UTILITIES magazine July 2002 Issue 24, (page 53), your nice programme is shown "PictureViewerEXE" which comes on automatically when you right-click a picture file.

I am interested in this programme plus the Image Converter SX2. (I can't claim that I know exactly what to do with these programmes but I feel that they will be useful when I understand a bit about them later on).

On the CD that comes with the magazine, there is a free version (unregistered) of the PictureViewerEXE programme, but not the "Image Converter SX".

In order to register, I see from your Internet Site it is $35 for the first programme or $45 (special offer) for the pair.

I wonder if you could inform me how to go about this, if I want to register just the first or alternatively both of them?

Do I delete the programme now in my computer (taken off the magazine's CD) and start again through the Internet?

Are there any manual instructions/advice in paper form available by letter-post or is it contained within the two programmes and we print them out at this end?

Any light you can shed on these things would be of assistance, as I am a beginner as regards to "picture files", etc.

Thank you,

Yours sincerely,

Victor Mishiku, (in West London, UK.)
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Response Number 9
Name: drm
Date: July 6, 2002 at 02:40:44 Pacific
Reply:

Here is an excellent screen capture utility. It works off the keyboard "Print Screen" key. It is available in free and "PRO" pay versions:

PrintKey2000


PrintKey Pro


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Response Number 10
Name: rac
Date: July 6, 2002 at 07:10:37 Pacific
Reply:

Victor: While I am not sure exactly what PctureViewer or the converter utility do, from what your description imples I'd suggest that you check out Irfanview before you spend any money. Although it's free, it belies the old adage that you get what you pay for, and really is a very powerful utility that will open any graphic you click on either automatically if you have previously associated the file type (which can be done when you in stall Irfanview) or by right click and "Send to". It also has a
rather impressive set of editing capabilities.

I looked at the free Printkey2000 suggested in the previous post, and in my humble opinion it is both unimpressive in its capabilities, and a pain to try and use. (With it, you do get what you pay for !!) The Pro version ($20US)looks looks like it functions almost exactly like the Screen Shot Deluxe that I use and costs the same.


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Response Number 11
Name: Victor Mishiku
Date: July 6, 2002 at 21:13:24 Pacific
Reply:

Dear rac, drm,

Thank you for your kind advice and suggestions. I will check them all out and see which one(s) I can handle best of all.

I have a new query to post tomorrow (I mean later today!) as it's getting light again now (already 5am and I am about to turn in) regarding "Mac" computers, as when I was visiting the campaign HQ for the "Amherst Lodge" case, I noticed that the Disablity Training Group had about 30 or 40 computers (all but one "Mac"s) - I need to find out how to convert work done on the "Mac" onto my PC in an editable state (not PDF) - I'm told it's impossible - but I can't think that's right! If men can walk on the Moon!

I really do appreciate the members input. When I first started out, I never had any help and repeatedly got into all sorts of trouble.

When someone in the USA told me to find a local "user group", I wrote back saying that I doubted if there was one in Ealing! Now the whole world is just around the corner it seems!

Goodnight and thanks again.

Regards,

Victor (sent at about 5.12am Sunday 7/7/2002)

NB. For today, our way of writing the date matches the USA way!


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