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Name: nick
Date: November 5, 2005 at 05:31:08 Pacific
OS: win98se
CPU/Ram: intel
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i have recently had an error on my primary 16gb hard drive, i also have a 80 gb slave drive installed , just for data.I had a major problem with primary drive, so installed a new 80gb hitachi drive as primary, installing win 98/then upgrade to win 98se.I am now unable to find the slave drive, even running hard disk recognition in the bios.I can easily find my old primary drive, when i install as a slave drive. I have tried every jump pin config, on all drives.I have tried both at 32gb clip, its only way primary will run.I previously installed the 80gb slave drive with seagate installation prog.If i do this again , i will loose all data from that drive.I have also run seagate tools, which recognises the disk.It does not show up in dos.Any help would be appreciated

thanks
nick



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Response Number 1
Name: GX1 Man
Date: November 5, 2005 at 07:41:09 Pacific
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Don't just randomly try jumpers. Go the manufacturer web site, and see how the jumpers on BOTH hard drives should be set. Then make sure both drives are seen in BIOS. (or not)

Please post back after you do the research and make sure everything is correct. What computer make/model?

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Response Number 2
Name: nick
Date: November 5, 2005 at 08:02:16 Pacific
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hi gxi, i have followed the instructions of manufacturer, but these did not work. i have tried to get recognition of the the offending drive in dos, but with no luck. i am concernerned that its an 80 gb disk, which installed originally with seagate installation as 80gb.However i am now unable to get 80gb recognised in current system.
its a time system pentium 2 500mhz processor
nick


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Response Number 3
Name: GX1 Man
Date: November 5, 2005 at 08:36:23 Pacific
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You may have a BIOS limitation that cannot see the full size, although it MAY work corretly anyway. What computer make/model? BTW there is no Pentium II 500 processor.

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Response Number 4
Name: nick
Date: November 5, 2005 at 10:01:49 Pacific
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hi gxi sorry pentium 3, i have run seatools diagnostics, which recognises it as a drive, but as i understand, as its 80gb ,,,full size because it was installed originally with seagate install tools, then it is invisible to the bios.however its invisible to everything, so struggling to find a way without using seagate disc wizard, as i suspect this reformats it, which i do not wish to do
any more ideas please?
nick


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Response Number 5
Name: wizard-fred
Date: November 5, 2005 at 10:18:30 Pacific
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I think i know what happened. Your BIOS has a 32GB limit. When you first installed the 80 GB drive as a slave the 16 GB was master and you used the drive overlay software to install the 80 GB. The problem that they don't tell you is that the drive overlay is loaded into the MBR of the boot drive (which is your 16 GB drive). Since the 16 GB is no longer the boot drive you cannot access the 80 GB drive. You maybe able to install the overlay in config.sys in order to access the old 80 GB drive. If you have the old overlay software try that but don't use it with the drive in, as it may try to re-install the drive and wipe all the data off. I would check with the drive/overlay manufacturer. The first time this happened to me. The boot drive failed and I also lost the slave. Since then I have done only one successful recovery. Took a long time to find the software. to allow me to read the drive. I no longer use any overlay software on any system.


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Response Number 6
Name: ham30
Date: November 5, 2005 at 11:14:03 Pacific
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I agree with Wizard-Fred. It's an overlay problem. I'm not positive, but I think just running the Seagate overlay option could fix you up. But if you have access to another system, it would be a good idea to hook the #2 drive up to it and backup all the data before you try anything.
Of course you should 'always' have all your data backed up.


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Response Number 7
Name: nick
Date: November 6, 2005 at 08:14:44 Pacific
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Hi fred & Ham. I think your on the right track, i have downloaded seagetedisk wizard, and followed instructions on overlay and master boot disk. However this is not helping as it does not recognise the80 g hard disk at boot up, and the toold run from d drive.However, it still can see the 80g disk in the tools section, and allows me to install the overlay, and ammend master boot.
At boot up i get the message ,,press f4 to skip for the offending drive.When the overlay is installed, it says no disk available requiring the overlay.Primarily this is because its not even recognised at boot up.
Within the maintainance section i can see the 80g disk, and it shows the partition.
It is a case of somehow trying to get recognition of the 80g at boot up being the problem.The new main hard drive is set as dev 0 master as i could not get that recognised as standard master.I can get sucessfull boot using the master like this, and the old 16 gb disk as slave
any more ideas?
nick


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Response Number 8
Name: nick
Date: November 6, 2005 at 08:35:36 Pacific
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HI Guys i think i have cracked it !!!!
What it does not say anywhere is to make the slave (80gb) a 32gb clip, even though it is running at 80gb when installed, but thanks to you guys pointing me in the software overlay direction .What i did was to install the old 16gb hard disk, initiate the overlay and mbd, then swap it for the new 80gb disk, and eventually change jumper to 32 gb

many thanks

nick


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Response Number 9
Name: nick
Date: November 10, 2005 at 05:49:04 Pacific
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Hi Guys, still need a little more help please!!

Now i have installed the 80 gig drive as a slave, when i get system crash ( which does sometimes happen !!!) and boot up goes to scandisk, i am unable to scan the 80 gb drive. This i assume is due to the overlay. When i fanally got a reboot, i tried to us norton utilities to scan , but it will not do it. If i use seagate tools, it seems to think there are no errors. So any suggestions on how to house keep the 80 gb disk please?

Nick


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