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can somebody please tell me what the dos command is for extracting the cd rom driver from the boot disk so ican install windows 98se from my disk it is now saying thereis a problem with the cdrom and is everything is connected properly
You shouldn't have to extract drivers from your boot disk to make the CD work.
What you should have is a boot disk with CD-ROM support, then it should run automatically.
There are two main sources. If you made a Startup disk (floppy) from Control Panel/Add-Remove then that will do fine. One made on any W98 machine will do. Otherwise you can download one from www.bootdisk.com
Whatever you use it will temporarilly alter the drive letter for you CD-ROM. Assuming just one partition, the Windows Startup disk will move it up from D to E. Downloaded boot disks often temporarilly shift the
CD letter to R.Note that a downloaded disk has to be created from what you download, don't just copy the files onto the floppy.
Derek.W
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.... if you've done as I suggested in #1 and you still get the problem, please come back with the exact error message and let us know when it occurs.
Derek.W
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I sometimes get that problem when I use cd-rom drivers other than oakcdrom.sys on a boot floppy.
Seems DOS has a preference for it ...
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Following on from Doormat's point, the CD-ROM drivers on the Windows Startup disk are oakcdrom.sys (filename).
You will see the files if you type dir/p or dir/w from the A: prompt.
Derek.W
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i looked in both directories and the oadcdrom sys was there in both but when i try to type in that command at a prompt it says invalid media type reading drive c abort retry fail any other suggestions i have one partition and this is a hard drive from a different tower if that matters
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Punctuation would be a plus here.
"invalid media type reading drive c"
.. would suggest that drive C: has not been formatted.
Pretty fuzzy on what or why, but you seem to be taking an odd approach. Boot from the floppy to an A: prompt and enter
format c:
Once the drive is formatted, reboot using the floppy, with CD support, and run Windows setup from the installation CD - be aware that the CD's drive letter may change (temporarily) - if so, watch the boot screen for clues(!) - there should be a line displayed informing you of the drive's letter assignment.
"thereis a problem with the cdrom and is everything is connected properly"Exact error message (as requested by Derek) is an aid to determining the problem
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You seem to be convinced that you have to put in some DOS command in order for your CD to be recognised. As I said earlier, this should not be necessary as the entire process should be automatic.
You power off, put in the boot disk, power on, and then choose CD-ROM Support from the menu.
After this you should see the oakcdrom drivers being installed if you watch the screen. Your drive letter will temporarilly change as previously advised.
Your next move depends on exactly what you are trying to do. If you want to verify that your CD is being recognised you will need to change directory. For the Windows Startup disk it will usually be E: and for others it might be R: or something else. I am assuming there is one one partition on the HD. If there is more than one the drive letter might be different to those given.
The fact that your CD-ROM is plugged up correctly does not necessarilly mean that it is working properly.
Try the sequence I gave in para 2. In order to help you we need to know "when" you are getting the error message and "exactly what it says".
You have now established that the file oakcdrom .sys is present on the floppy. Do not bog yourself down with thinking that some DOS command is now necessary, just give us the information requested and we'll see if we can shed some light on the problem.
Derek.W
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i had already formatted that drive but i reformatted it anyway it worked but then when i reboot and go to start computer with cd rom support it says loading cd driver but then gives me error message device driver not found 'mscd001' no valid cdrom drivers selected what now?
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also with my other hard drive if i try to boot from floppy it says missing operating system but when i boot from cdrom it says the same message as this one above also i am using a windows millenium boot disk since the windows 98 boot disk just says invalid system disk do you think this is why there is no cdrom driver on this boot disk because the driver is too old for the boot disk let me know if you understand what i am saying thanks, jackie
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Sorry, I know nothing about what is on a Windows ME boot disk. Might be worth downloading one for W98 from www.bootdisk.com just in case it has some bearing on your problem. Seems odd though because with a formatted hard drive I wouldn't have thought the operating system would have much to do with it at that stage.
It might be a problem related to your particular hardware. Have a look at this for example:
SIMILAR PROBLEMYou get a lot of Google hits if you use your error message in the search line.
Derek.W
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i am now setting up win98 on one of the hard drives but the boot disk which i copied out of my computer from dos keeps giving me the message bootsector write!! virus continuey/n is this very bad should i continue, jackie
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I would hold off. I'll ask the Security & Virus forum if they can look at this post.
Hang on a while.
Derek.W
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"i had already formatted that drive but i reformatted it anyway it worked but then when i reboot and go to start computer with cd rom support it says loading cd driver but then gives me error message device driver not found 'mscd001' no valid cdrom drivers selected what now?"
When it says "loading cdrom driver", it is performing the commands in the config.sys file, one of which is probably something like:
device=a:\oakcrdrom.sys /d:mscd0001 /e
(Must be that one is correct in your config.sys)Config.sys runs PRIOR to autoexec.bat
In the autoexec.bat file, there is probably a statement similar to:
a:\mscdex.exe /d:mscd0001 /m:30 /e
or
lh a:\mscdex.exe /d:mscd0001 /m:30 /e
(the lh means "loadhigh")If I understand you correctly, it is this second one which is giving you a problem.
There are a couple of things for you to check in your files:
1) make sure that both the "device" statement in the config.sys and the "c:\mscdex.exe" statement in autoexec.bat list the cdrom as /d:mscd0001 . It needs 3 zeroes, not 2, as in your example above.
2) make sure that mscdex.exe is on your floppy disk
3) DON'T let the "/d:" confuse you into thinking the cdrom will be drive d:\ , this is not the same thing. As Derek mentioned above, your drive letter can change, and windows will usually pick E:\ for the first cdrom, and d:\ for a ramdrive if there are no other fixed partitions present. In this respect, you should be looking for your cdrom at E:\
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It's easy to get confused on this ... if you were setting up win98 from a cdrom, it would rename the ramdrive to a:\ ... how weird is that?
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Doormat
It rather looks from #12 that the original issue is now resolved, though the poster might still value your input.
The new issue, at #12, seems to be a virus, although I have some difficulty deciding whether we are talking about a virus on the floppy produced in DOS, or whether it is on the HD itself (or both).
I've asked S&V forum, so I hope they chime in and help sort this apparent new problem.
Derek.W
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You're kind of light on details. A typical bootdisk doesn't do any virus checking. However if the virus protection is turned on in your cmos/bios setup it would probably flag an attempt to write the system files to the boot sector, which will happen when you install windows.
If that's the case you can choose the option to continue, but it'd be best to turn off virus protection as sometimes it causes other problems.
Also, I take it you have two hard drives, at least one from another computer, that's you've been attempting to install windows on. It's always best after moving a drive to another computer to run fdisk and remove the existing partitions. Then recreate the partitions and reformat. Sometimes one bios will see a drive differently than another.
If the drive you're transferring has software you want to keep you pretty much have to hope the new bios will see the drive the same way.
If you're still having bootdisk problems, I can email you a bootdisk file that I know will work.
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Thats not a virus, That is a normal function of your bios. Its says this when you are writing to the boot sector. You can disable this warning in bios if you wish or press a key to continue anyway. Its not a problem.
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Press y and continue, Like I said if you search thru your bios settings you will see where you can disable that warning to where you dont even see it. Its just telling you that something is trying to write to the boot sector and in this case you know what it is because you are doing it.
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You're welcome Derek. His details are kind of hard to follow but it looks like you've got him headed in the right direction.
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an update i did get win98 put on the one hardrive i ended doing a new boot disk and since by bios had no settings to bipass the virus warning i found a command on the net for when you setup from dos which is setup /ir it worked the warning didn't come back i switched cd roms out from another tower i have two seperate towers that i am working on so the one tower is completely done now i have to format a different hard drive and start over the other hard drive i decided was dead, sorry so confusing but you are a great help, jackie
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