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Name: geoff
Date: October 27, 2005 at 18:35:13 Pacific
OS: Win98se
CPU/Ram: PII 300/ 64Kb
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Hi all, when I started my notebook this morning, only half the desktop icons loaded and I couldn,t use/access anything. The Task Manager says "Explorer(Not responding)" and sometimes it also said "Msgsrv32(Not responding)". My mouse pointer changes to the 'hour glass' when I move it over the task-bar. The network card and USB mouse still work ok. I get the same fault if I remove these. Everything(except I/O hardware) appears to work ok when I start in 'Safe Mode'. CDROM works in "DOS Mode'. Ran sfc and found setupx.dll file was corrupt and restored it. Now all icons load on the desktop but I still can't access anything. The "Explorer (Not responding)" still occurs.

I re-installed Windows over the top using the original "setup and CAB files" in C:\windows\options\cab on HDD...same problem.

I re-installed Windows over the top using the original CDROM...same problem.

I ran scanreg/fix in DOS mode...same problem.

Any ideas? I don't really want to re-format. Apart from losing all that is installed, I'm afraid I'll still have the same fault!

Thanks



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Response Number 1
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: October 27, 2005 at 20:22:43 Pacific
Reply:

Is it Msgsrv32 or Msgsvr32 (r and v transposed) that's not responding? Msgsrv32 is a legitimate windows file. Msgsvr32 is a virus file.

For some reason SFC always shows setupx.dll as being corrupted.

A scanreg/restore from dos may have helped but since you've reinstalled it may be too late to try.

Run scandisk--thorough--and then defrag.


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Response Number 2
Name: jubalsams
Date: October 28, 2005 at 01:59:37 Pacific
Reply:

Then because appears ok in safe mode: go to msconfig and uncheck all startup items, remove everything from StartUp folder and rename autoexec.bat/config.sys.

Reboot and see if stuff works. If so, add them back/reboot one at a time.

Best


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Response Number 3
Name: ham30
Date: October 28, 2005 at 10:57:50 Pacific
Reply:

I would suggest trying a scanreg /restore.

An install 'on top' might not affect the Registry backups.


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Response Number 4
Name: GX1 Man
Date: October 28, 2005 at 15:13:36 Pacific
Reply:

"Install on top" will not solve this. A full format and reinstall solves all Windows problems, for a while. If it bothers you enough, that is the ultimate solution.

You can avoid many of these Windows problems with Linux. Linspire eases the transition for new users


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Response Number 5
Name: ham30
Date: October 28, 2005 at 19:22:07 Pacific
Reply:

GXI Man, if you were refering to my post, I was not suggesting an install on top. Geoff had already tried that. Refer to the original post.

Sorry, I do not check for private messages


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Response Number 6
Name: GX1 Man
Date: October 28, 2005 at 19:39:23 Pacific
Reply:

No I was giving a suggestion to solve the original problem.

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Response Number 7
Name: geoff
Date: October 30, 2005 at 19:58:38 Pacific
Reply:

Thank you all for your responses.

Msgsrv32 or Msgsvr32 could have been a typo error. I haven't seen this since I replaced the setupx.dll file.

Scanreg/restore to a date prior to my problem failed! Scanreg could not do it. Other dates worked but didn't fix my problem.

Ran scandisk--thorough--and then defraged.

Used msconfig and unchecked all startup items, remove everything from StartUp folder and renamed autoexec.bat and config.sys. Rebooted only to have the same problem!

Looking more like a full format and reinstall is on its way!


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Response Number 8
Name: GX1 Man
Date: October 30, 2005 at 20:04:18 Pacific
Reply:

That solves most Windows problems....for a while.

You can avoid many of these Windows problems with Linux. Linspire eases the transition for new users


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Response Number 9
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: October 30, 2005 at 20:34:20 Pacific
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Not that it helps your problem, but among other things, msgsrv32 registers dll files in the registry. SFC always seems to show setupx.dll is corrupted, even after a fresh installation. But you apparently fixed a msgsrv32 error by replacing setupx.dll. Maybe the problem SFC finds with setupx.dll is due to it not being properly registered.

Another thing you might try. Use SFC to extract a new version of msgsrv32.exe. Maybe the problem was with that file.


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Response Number 10
Name: geoff
Date: October 31, 2005 at 02:42:32 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks again,

I extracted a new version of msgsrv32.exe. Still have same fault!


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Response Number 11
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: October 31, 2005 at 15:01:55 Pacific
Reply:

Have you done a good virus and malware scan? Also try temporarily using a PS/2 or serial mouse instead of the USB. I think I recall a similar problem related to a USB mouse or KB.


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Response Number 12
Name: geoff
Date: October 31, 2005 at 19:40:43 Pacific
Reply:

Hi again DAVEINCAPS.
My virus protection didn't find anything!
I disconnected the USB mouse long ago and have just been using the IBM trackball!

Cheers


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Response Number 13
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: October 31, 2005 at 21:34:01 Pacific
Reply:

Press CTRL-ALT-DEL and post back what shows in the 'close program' box.


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Response Number 14
Name: geoff
Date: November 1, 2005 at 14:24:06 Pacific
Reply:

I have removed all startup programs so only Explorer is running (or Not).


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Response Number 15
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: November 1, 2005 at 22:06:30 Pacific
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I can't think of anything else. It's one of those problems without a specific fix. You could try googling "explorer not responding" and see if anything helpful turns up.


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Response Number 16
Name: geoff
Date: November 3, 2005 at 14:43:39 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks you all for your input. I will reformat today and start all over gain.


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Response Number 17
Name: GX1 Man
Date: November 3, 2005 at 15:12:20 Pacific
Reply:

Reinstall..the ultimate fix!

You can avoid many of these Windows problems with Linux. Linspire eases the transition for new users


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