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ERROR READING FIXED DISK FDISK

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Name: Arachian
Date: June 7, 2002 at 22:28:13 Pacific
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I was duel-booting Win2k and Mandrake Linux v.8.1, but I don't think that matters very much. Well, it matters, but it's not Linux's fault. Anyway, my computer specs are as follows: 233mhz Pentium II, 6GB HDD, 64mb RAM. It will not boot from the cd. I made a boot disk from another computer I have with win98 on it. So, I put the boot disk in, start it up, and it comes up with a message, "1) Boot with CD-ROM support...2) Boot without CD-ROM support...3) View ReadMe file. I enter 1(one) as my choice and it continues the procedure. It brings me to a command prompt and I try to fdisk to delete the partitions and that is where I get my problem, "Error Reading Fixed Disk" when I type, "fdisk c:" it also states that Parameter format not correct - c:...any suggestions for this problem?




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Response Number 1
Name: www
Date: June 7, 2002 at 22:39:49 Pacific
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try using delpart.exe -click here for download site
then fdisk,format etc.


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Response Number 2
Name: litz (by don)
Date: June 7, 2002 at 22:49:41 Pacific
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Fdisk does not handle Win2K or Linux partitions. Follow WWW's advice if you want to delete the partitions and start from scratch.


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Response Number 3
Name: Arachian
Date: June 7, 2002 at 22:54:37 Pacific
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The "Delpart" program that WWW told me to download gave me an error stating, "No Hard Drive Detected" or something to that affect...to make it simple...it couldn't find my hard drive. any other suggestions?


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Response Number 4
Name: Arachian
Date: June 7, 2002 at 22:58:14 Pacific
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sorry...the error was "No hard disks found" still open to suggestions though.


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Response Number 5
Name:
Date: June 7, 2002 at 23:03:04 Pacific
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Check that connections to the drive are in tight, then redetect the drive in CMOS setup, or manually enter the drive specs in setup.


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Response Number 6
Name: Arachian
Date: June 7, 2002 at 23:09:37 Pacific
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Alright, connections are tight and the computer already supposedly recognizes a drive as being there when it acts like it is going to boot. But it still tells me it can't boot and all of the "remedies" suggested HAVE been attempted and all have failed...I'm still up for more suggestions though. Thanks to all for helping.


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Response Number 7
Name: RTolbertson
Date: June 8, 2002 at 03:21:52 Pacific
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Hello,
You are still going to have a problem using fdisk to get rid or to change the Linux partition.
I believe you are having trouble getting into fdisk possibly because.....because you are using the windows 98 floppy disk ...try this
you will want to enter fdisk from the A:\
prompt and then type
fdisk


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Response Number 8
Name: trvlr
Date: June 8, 2002 at 03:40:19 Pacific
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Not that up on Linux - haven't used it - yet...

But I think the issue is the mbr??? you need to run the:

fdisk /mbr

command from a DOS/'9x bootdisk/prompt. More on this whole issue below.

Fdisk 'will' handle (delete) some W2K partitions. If ntfs in Extended then it won't, but if ntfs in Primary then it will.

ntfs = non-DOS partition.

W2K = fat132 (even fat16) then Fdisk will remove it regardless.

Fdisk tutorial:

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q255/8/67.asp

http://www.compguystechweb.com/troubleshooting/fdisk/fdisk_scr.html

Removing linux partition(s):

A trawl via google.com for:

removing linux partitions

brings up much info; e.g.

http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.2-Manual/install-guide/ch-uninstall.html

http://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/redhat/RHL-6.2-gsg/s1-q-and-a-removing.htm

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Install-Strategies/x412.html


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Response Number 9
Name: Dave357
Date: June 8, 2002 at 11:30:12 Pacific
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Arachian, when exactly do you get the error message? From the A:\> prompt (after booting with a bootdisk) if you type:

fdisk (ENTER)

Does fdisk start? If so, choose (Y) to enabling large-disk support, then choose option 4..Display partition information. What is listed? Or is this when the error pops up?

Post back.

Dave


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Response Number 10
Name: Arachian
Date: June 8, 2002 at 21:37:43 Pacific
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Dave, it gives me the error after fdisk starts and asks me if I want to enable large disk support...obviously I hit 'Y' and strike 'enter'. After this, it gives me the error, "error reading fixed disk." Thanks...I hope this is helpful.


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Response Number 11
Name: Dave357
Date: June 9, 2002 at 01:42:34 Pacific
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I'm not familiar with Linux, but I imagine that it has a partitioning/unpartitioning tool built-in. Try using this. Another option would be to try the Linux forum.

Check this link from the MS Knowledge Base:

Removing Non-DOS Partitions

If the BIOS correctly recognizes the HD but Delpart doesn't & the Linux partitioning tool won't work, the only thing left to try that I can think of is a "write zeros" program. You can get killhdd.bat here:

KillHDD.bat

Hope something here helps.

Dave


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Response Number 12
Name: Arachian
Date: June 10, 2002 at 14:33:27 Pacific
Reply:

If it helps, I used Partition Magic to do the partition.


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Response Number 13
Name: Dave357
Date: June 10, 2002 at 18:28:19 Pacific
Reply:

Arachian, yes that does help. Sometimes fdisk has a problem dealing with partitions created by third-party programs.

Try removing the partitions with Partition Magic...either by using the DOS bootdisks or by popping the HD into another computer that has Partition Magic installed on it (as a slave drive). Remove the partitions, then reboot with a Windows bootdisk & try to create the new partition(s) using fdisk.

Hope this helps.

Dave


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Response Number 14
Name: michael edwards
Date: June 17, 2002 at 16:50:15 Pacific
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Last time this happened to me I went into the bios and turned the boot sector virus protection off and it went good as gold - email me if this works plz.


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Response Number 15
Name: Arachian
Date: June 30, 2002 at 18:16:01 Pacific
Reply:

Michael Edwards, this did not work. Thanks. Anymore suggestions out there? any and all are welcome. Thanks.


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Response Number 16
Name: trvlr
Date: July 1, 2002 at 10:07:11 Pacific
Reply:

A few 'wild-card' guesses and no more than that:

Presuming the drive is still OK - hasn't died...

Does it actually spin up at switch on?

Does this system still boot at all (to either OS)?

Is drive still set to be Primary Master; and is it detected in bios settings - i.e. do the drive settings show up in cmos page?

Have you tried the Auto detect state, and LBA as appropriate; likewise tried manually entered all settings?

Boot with a DOS/'9x bootdisk; at the a:>\ prompt type:

fdisk /mbr

(note the single space between fdisk and /mbr)

and Press Enter. This erases bootsect info.

Perhaps also run the sys c: command ('9x/DOS bootdisk) to reset mbr (bootsect) to DOS/'9x level and see if drive will boot to a prompt?

Reboot (via bootdisk) and then see if Fdisk will run correctly?

Perhaps visit the web-site for the drive make and download the LLF (or more correctly/preferably the MLF) util; this will write zeros to the drive and reset it back to factory gate status - providing it can find/detect the drive...

MLF = Mid Level Format; LLF = Low Level Format.

A 'true' LLF is not advised for current/recent drives; it can render them useless.

There is a Debug routine for a true LLF that will wipe the drive... used carefully. The M$ KB for it:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q106419

Sadly...

http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000379.htm

doesn't give much hope... tends to suuggest the drive is toast...?

But this one suggests a util (that may recover it - if possible):

http://www.me.umn.edu/~ap/partition.html

A search in the web (google.com) will bring up a few sources for the util suggested. If possible get the (util suggested) version from your drive's web-site? Again be aware of a true LLF as opposed to a MLF; possibly the suggested util is actually an MLF as opposed to an LLF?

Similarly a search in google.com for:

error reading fixed disk using Fdisk

will bring up both of the above and many other similar resources/ideas etc...

"Strongly advise" that you read the info at:

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/geom/format_Low.htm

re' LLF and debug routines - "before" using a true LLF/Debug... The web-site immediately above is probably one of the best for HD issues.

Have you tried a Linux boot-disk to access the drive etc.?

Finally was this system running OK prior to your current machinations; what exactly did you do to set this train of events in motion?

Have to say I'm not sure the future's rosey for this drive - but one never knows?


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