Hi Christine, Although you're in some trouble, it's nice to see you around. What have you been up to to get the same error again? Looks like I offered you the same solution as before :-) Worked the first time, so I think it will do the trick again. I'll check on you (this thread) tomorrow. ...And thanks for refreshing my memory! Keep us posted on the progress. Greetz, The Count (March 21st, 02:07 hours)

To be honest the problem came back immediately but I didn't want to keep bothering after I told you it worked so I tried to fix it my self. So funny how a person can feel embarrassed over the internet.

Aww, don't be embarrassed Christine. If the problem can be solved, the solution will be of benefit to others as well - good to know what works & what doesn't.

TRUE...........no more being silly ;}

Out of curiousity, do you have any conflicts in device manager - particularly for your soundcard? Typically these cards use IRQ 5 - yours uses IRQ 7 - at least, according to the SET BLASTER line. '7' is usually assigned to the printer.

Ok - nevermind my previous post - try this: Change to 'NOEMS' switch at the end of the emm386 line to RAM DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.exe RAM Found a reference here: "Note that SBEINIT will NOT load without expanded memory (EMS) enabled by EMM386.EXE's "RAM" parameter! And make sure your EMM386.exe command does NOT contain the "NOEMS" switch, because this disables EMS, and SBEINIT will abort!"

Hi Christine, It's no bother, and I'm glad you took the step to come back and ask for some more help. In addition to jboy's post the article also advices to leave out the LH which I suggested. :( Hi jboy, It's nice to team up once again! Greetz, The Count

Hi Count! Yes, that sbeinit is an odd one. Thought that I'd read something about it, took me a while to find the reference. Hope it works.

Hi jboy, Personally I don't have any experience with the Creative Labs Sound Blaster cards, so it was interesting. It might have taken you a while, but you did find it! Sure hope so. Greetz, The Count

O.K. I'm just going to reinstall windows or reformat. Also, will this problem cause me to have a hard time installing games. I'm trying to install everquest and it saysan instalation file could not load?????

Hi Christine, Almost forgot about your thread. ;-) Wow! What makes you feel to make such steps? A reinstall of Windows would mean reformatting your hard drive. Reformatting your hard drive would mean a loss of everything on it. Everything means; your drivers for your video, sound etc and all your installed programs and personal data/stuff. If you decide to proceed with the reinstall, first make sure you have a backup of everything that's valuable to you, including drivers for your system. If you don't know or cannot find the drivers you need, this thread's responses # 1, 2 and 3 should give you a lead on what's in/on your system. (http://www.computing.net/windows95/wwwboard/forum/137494.html) Download and/or backup the required drivers in advance. To backup your installed drivers, see if this thread helps. (http://www.computing.net/windows95/wwwboard/forum/139141.html) When you proceed with the reinstall, are you then still able to get back to us if needed? To which of the two are you referring when you say: "...will this problem cause me to have a hard time installing games." Are you referring to the original problem, or are you referring to the reinstall? Either way the answer could be, yes. "...saysan..." Is this a typo? Keep us posted! Greetz, The Count

It's a Japanese word for says an.........and yes I am referring to the original problem. I'll probably reinstall but I will wait a little longer and do a little more resarch before I go to that extreme. Any more suggestions are welcome. Also thanks for helping me so far. I may not have fixed it yet but I learned alot from ya'll

Hi Christine, It's really not that extreme, I just wanted to make sure that you get organized before proceding. Guess I succeeded. :-) Have you tried option number two offered in response #5? I'll keep an eye on this thread, and hope anyone else does the same! Greetz, The Count

Well, if the solution to the problem is providing EMS memory for sbeinit to load, then formatting /reinstalling won't change a thing. The 'fix' is a small change to a line in your config.sys - give it a shot. If you don't play DOS games you may never even need sbeinit - you could safely 'rem' it out as Count suggested, or even dispense entirely with autoexec.bat & config.sys Nothing wrong with formatting & reinstalling if you are prepared, but it's a 'brute force' approach to problem solving, and may not fix the underlying issue. Better to understand what causes the error in the first place, imho

O.K. I tried to rem the sbeinit line again, I go to save it, restart, and it's back to how it was before as if it didn't save. Then I just got rid of the whole thing, autoexec.bat & config.sys and a new error message pops up. Memory Manager not detected. SB Live! requires EMM386 or similar SB Live! driver not loading In place of Could not allocate code patch RAM below 4 MYBTE boundary. Try loading SBEINIT.COM before SMARTDRV.exe or minimizing VDISK RAM Also, Ive noticed in the last couple of days that at the beginning of booting, before it lists what drivers are loading it says, Suggested SDRAM CAS Latency time is "2". I cant remember ever noticing this before. Christine ;}

Ok, I thought it was possible that SBLive! might complain - wasn't sure. Have you tried editing the config.sys to provide EMS memory, as suggested in that earlier link - probably the best option, lots of info cited there concerning that particular driver. DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.exe RAM The latency message probably isn't new - lots of messages scroll across the screen at bootup if DOS drivers/commands are loaded - likely changing things allowed you to see this particular one. AFAIK latency is changed in the BIOS (if at all).

I have tried that. It will fix the error Memory Manager not detected. SB Live! requires EMM386 or similar SB Live! driver not loading But it will go back to the other error Could not allocate code patch RAM below 4 MYBTE boundary. Try loading SBEINIT.COM before SMARTDRV.exe or minimizing VDISK RAM No matter what I do it's one or the other.........EEEEK!!!!

Ok - sorry for not responding sooner. You restored the previous autoexec & config using msconfig? Try replacing the line in config.sys with this: DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.exe I=B000-B7FF RAM D=256 AUTO Don't know what else to suggest - hope it works. _____________________________________________________________

Didn't work :{ Is this something I need fixed? If not, I'll ignore it. I am having a problem installing EverQuest though. Would this be part of the reason? Anyway, don't want to get started on a new problem just wondering if this could effect it. Thanks for trying to help. Christine;}

Hi Christine, Felt I had to let know that I'm actually almost brain dead on the trouble your experiencing. :-(( Nevertheless, I'll keep thinking about it and keep an eye on this thread. Just want to double-check a couple things, if you don't mind. Are these your current readings? AUTOEXEC.BAT Echo off SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H5 P330 T6 SET CTSYN=C:\WINDOWS LH C:\PROGRA~1\CREATIVE\SBLIVE\DOSDRV\SBEINIT.COM prompt $p$g path C:\;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\Command; set temp=C:\Temp set tmp=C:\Temp CONFIG.SYS DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.exe RAM FILES=45 buffers=20 DOS=high,umb DEVICEhigh=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS As for your problem installing EverQuest, is that a DOS or Windows (based) game? It's nice to know when help is appreciated, we try to help out at the best of our abilities and to share our knowledge. Greetz, The Count

It says exactly what you posted except the LH part. Every-time I add that it never stays after boot up. Would reinstalling my SB! LIVE drivers help? I'll keep this thread open just in-case you have a another suggestion but I won't expect anything. You have helped allot.

"...but I won't expect anything." :{ "Every-time I add that it never stays after boot up." Needless to say that you have to save the changes first. ;) How do you actually edit the Autoexec.bat? "Would reinstalling my SB! LIVE drivers help?" It wouldn't hurt trying, but I wouldn't bet any money on it either. "You have helped allot." Apparently not enough, cause you're still stuck with the error message(s) and a not willing to install game :( The Count (March 30th, 00:48 hours)

YES, I have saved every time and made sure I did, double checked.........I am doing this through the run sysedit??? That is where you edit it, right??? but I won't expect anything." :{ I guess I mean't you don't have to try to figure out my problem because I know if you were sitting at my computer you could probably figure it out what's going on. I felt bad about bothering you further. You guys ROCK!!! in helping me out!!! Christine;}

Hi Christine We don't mind trying - it's the failing that's bothersome ; ) If you don't need DOS sound support for older (say around 1994/95) games, then you could likely uninstall the software for SBLive and then reinstall only this time choose "No" when asked to enable DOS support. That should dispense with sbeinit entirely and stop the various error messages. You may need to manually edit out the SBLive references in autoexec.bat etc to cleanup, but it should be ok this time. Not an elegant solution, but it should solve the problem. Everquest seems to be a Win32 based game, so you won't require DOS drivers for it. It sounds like the installation error that you've reported is a separate issue.

"We don't mind trying - it's the failing that's bothersome" Right said Fred... uhhh that should be jboy :) The Count

That didn't work either;{ Oh, well, we tried. I'll keep this post just incase ya'll has another idea. Thanks, Christine;}

If you are still there I have another question. Could not having enough RAM be a possible cause? I thought I had 256 but i checked my system and it says I have 191. I need to go check and see if my memory is seated right. Have a good day. Christine;}

Hi Christine, I'm still around :) I don't think the memory is a issue here. 191 or 256 MB of RAM should really be enough. The reason that you for having 191 MB instead of 256 MB of RAM, could be that your video card uses shared memory. If it's a on board video card, this could well be the case. Check your BIOS settings. It's probably found under PCI/Plug and Play Setup Page, the Share Memory Size would be what you should be looking for. At least there is where it's found within my AMI-BIOS. Greetz, The Count

F.Y.I. Well I fixed my SBEINIT problem. I went into the bios and set default to bios and system. Don't know which one did the trick but that's what I did. If you know let me know. Thanks, Christine

Hi Christine, I'm happy for you! Who would have thought, that resetting the BIOS to system default would solve the SBEINIT problem. I didn't. ;{ As far as I know, resetting the BIOS* to Default is the same thing as resetting the systems settings. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. :) Thanks for posting back how you solved the problem, it's appreciated and I'll suggest it to others around here if the have a similar problem. * Basic Input Output System. Greetz, The Count

I meant to say the set-up not system defaults. Your right............I wasn't paying attention to what I was typing.

I pin pointed the problem in my BIOS. It was in the chip feature setup. The memory hole had to be disabled. I got lucky and my first guess was right unless there could be other problems that collaborate with that one but as far as I know that was the problem.

Christine, Thanks for providing the extra info! Once again it's appreciated. Greetz, The Count