They are Atapi... sorry i didnt mention that

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Boot with a Win 98 SE OEM bootdisk. Sart the PC up with CDROM support and then stick your CD into your CDROM and do whatever it is you do to launch setup on the Linux CD. You can get a file to create a bootdisk from: www.bootdisk.com Good Luck.

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Dave, I don't know what you're on about, really. Windows requires no DOS drivers, and, at any rate MSCDEX.exe is not in fact the CD driver. This is what's known as 'barking up the wrong tree' - continue if you wish. If the whole point is to install Linux, why bother with Windows (or DOS) in the first place. The Linux CD is very likely bootable. Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

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I will try with the bootdisk and tell you what happened. jboy I have already tried booting up several difference versions of Linux (which I know are bootable) and none of them boot up, not even Windows cd boot up. I appreciate your help.

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I'll let you handle it "jboy" I don't mess around with Linux anyways. I was just trying help him get his CDROM drives working again. I'm sorry if I have confused the situation. You seem to have a much more straight forward angle on this, so I'll move on from this thread. Good Luck OshaunO and jboy.

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Well, it may be that you need to alter the boot order in the BIOS to set the CD as the first boot device - however, if Windows was not able to detect the drive, possibly there is a problem with it. Yes, booting from a floppy with CD support may well be an option (now that Dave has more fully elaborated upon his initial bewildering reply) but that wouldn't be my first choice. Your question seems to have more to do with Linux than Windows - perhaps that forum could better advise you. Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

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I tried the bootdisk w/ CD-Support Yet it said it could not find any drives so it aborted the installation of MSCD001 and it create a virtual drive on D: So ya. that does not work. I've previously entered BIOS and changed the boot sequence to: 1.floppy 2.CD 3.HD

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Is it possible to have to bios running?? I have the Award BIOS which runs first and shows that it cannot find any drives. Then after I have the HPT370 (BIOS/Software) which recognizes all of my drives. If i enter HPT370 it allows me to choose between my hard drives as the bootable device, but does not let me choose one of my cd drives. I think the problem might be w/ the Award Software not recognizes any drives (however my C: drive still runs in windows and dos).

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Well, as mentioned, using a bootdisk is likely not necessary - but it does seem like the CD drive (or drives) has problems. You might try checking the cables and ensuring that it's jumpered correctly. You might also try disconnecting the slaved CD and see if that makes a difference Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

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Ok, I'd missed you last post "Is it possible to have to bios running??" I'm not sure what you mean. The BIOS is what is used to start/setup the computer prior to loading the OS. AFAIK there should be only one. Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

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WOW, this is a confusing post...lol Isn't HPT370 an addon IDE controller card? Asus A7N8X-X 1800+ @8x210mhz 512mb PC3200 Ti4200/8X 128mb WDC 60GB

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Seems to be an IDE or RAID controller, sure. Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

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It is a raid controller, can't imagine CDs working too well on that!

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Sorry about the confusion... I didn't know the difference between the Award Software (which i believe is the BIOS) and the HPT370 software. I have tried only one cd drive by itself and it still does not work. I still do not know why the BIOS is not recognizing anything drives, yet the HPT370 software is recognizing all of them.

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The system BIOS is not so much software but firmware - it loads from a chip and is independent of any Operating System. The "HPT370 software" - I don't know - it seems like the control or setup for your drive controller - not exactly 'standard' - some hardware has its own BIOS, such as a video card, perhaps that's the case here. I imagine the issue lies there. DID this system ever function correctly? Were you ever able to use or boot from the CD drive?? Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

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Yes I was able to boot from the cd drive at a point because previously the system had WinNt installed on it, then i changed it to windows 98. So in order for me to install win98 the cd drive would have had to have been bootable.

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Ok, well I don't know what's changed, but something sure has. You may wish to check any documentation for your HPT370. For someone who dabbles in a variety of Operating Systems (if you don't mind an observation) you seem a bit.. uncertain as to how your machine works. Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

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I'm sorry for my lack of knowledge of my system , which I have just acquired from someone who did not want it anymore. I will take your advice and read more into HPT370 and RAID controller. I appreciate your help and am grateful for it. If anyone else wants to provide me with some insight on this topic (someone who is more polite, no offense jboy) thanks in advance.

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I was attempting to be tactful - the plain fact is you don't appear to understand how your machine works. If that revelation is somehow offensive to you, well, so be it. I am constantly amazed by folks who want to run all sorts of Operating Systems but choose to remain blissfully unaware of the mechanics. good luck & all that Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience

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Shaun, if you're still around, have a poke around in BIOS and see if you can find any references to RAID. If you find any, try disabling that option.

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I have not been able to find anything on bios that refers to RAID. Also there is no reference to RAID in the HTP370 software(which is run after POST).

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Sorry Shaun, I've been doing what jboy suggested you do and have done some downloading and reading. Reboot your computer, press Control + H to enter the raid utility. When there, press F1 and report what you find.

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Go back into the CMOS and go to IDE detection process to get it to see your connected drives. And then proceed. Hopefully it will then see the CDROM device and the second hard drive. From your original post I suspect you have done this and you reported that all is as it should be. Quote: Problem: my bios recognizes all cd and hard drives. But DOS and Windows 98 only recognizes the primary hard-drive and the floppy drive. My goal is to install linux on this machine but i cannot get any of the cd drives to function. What can I do?? End Quote Did you just recently install the second hard drive? If so then do double check the physical connections and the correct jumper settings. If not has it been used and workable as you would expect? Beyond that; how are the devices connected? eg. Hard drives on Primary and secondary on IDE 1 and CDROM on Primary IDE2 From within Windows (or from the DOS prompt) open fdisk (Start, Run if in Windows), go to option 4 after selecting large disk support to display how it was fdisk'd. Does everything show up as it should? Hit Escape to get back to the menu and select option 5 to change to Disk 2. Everything there? I don't know Linux but for Windows to see the second hard drive it does have to be fdisked and formatted. I am thinking that if the CDROM is slaved to Hard drive 2 and it is not fdisk'd then it won't see the CDROM slaved to it. I could be wrong. Otherwise do check the connections and jumpers as suggested. Bryan

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Hello everyone, Your motherboard has 4 IDE connections, see the image here. If the CD drives are connected to either IDE-3 or IDE-4 they will not work. Check the BIOS settings within the Integrated Peripherals Menu. Ensure that Onboard IDE-1 Controller and Onboard IDE-2 Controller is set to Enabled. Best Regards, Mesich

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So you are saying my CD drives must be connected to IDE-1 or IDE-2. What kind of IDE cable must I use?? I noticed that the IDE-1 and IDE-2 jacks have all 40 pins on them while my IDE cables only have 39. I did notice that IDE-1 Controller and IDE-2 Controller were both disabled and I have now corrected it.

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Hello everyone, What new hardware was installed prior to the problem? How are the IDE devices currently connected? Master, Slave, IDE slot. Is the IDE devices connected differently since the problem started? The HTP66 is a built in chipset that supports Ultra ATA 66 IDE devices. IDE's 3 and 4 go through this chipset which is why the motherboard manufacture does not recommend connecting slower devices, such as your CDROM to those IDE's. The reason I ask about other hardware that has been installed is because the HTP66, which IDE 3 and 4 use, share the bus master control signals with PCI slot #5. Also PCI slot #2 shares an IRQ with the HTP66 IDE Controller. Best Regards, Mesich

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