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Original Message
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Name: JR
Date: April 14, 1999 at 07:38:17 Pacific
Subject: direct cable connection |
Comment: Hi,I'm wondering if I can install software or an operating system to my laptop using direct cable connection. If so,what needs to be done,and what kind of cable? Any reply would be appreciated
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Response Number 1
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Name: Bruce
Date: April 14, 1999 at 09:43:36 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Another easy one. Just click Start, then Help and browse around for Direct Cable Connection, or it might be in the Network area of the help menu..
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Response Number 2
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Name: Lazarus
Date: April 14, 1999 at 10:32:33 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Bruce.. seriously.. JR needs some real advice. J.R., let's say that you have Roadrunner or @HOME cable as your ISP. Now, if.. for whatever reason that you want to hook your laptop up to your cable connection.. one thing that you may want to do is simply network the PC's together. To do that.. I think that you will have to have a network CARD installed onto your laptop (if not, I'd like to know as well) and then just network that way. "Software" is not the issue here, J.R. Hardware is. Yes, there is the proprietary software that you may need to connect.. but that's not the issue. Remember the tech that they send to your house to set you up in the first place? If it's just "linking software" and whatnot to your laptop.. try WINLINK and use that little COMPORT to link stuff... it's fast. Do a search for WINLINK at shareware.com and you should find what you need. Any more questions or if you or anyone else wants to curse to me feel free to write. Lazarus
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Response Number 3
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Name: Bruce
Date: April 14, 1999 at 12:21:47 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)I WAS serious. I gave JR the first place to start, reading about it. The last time I looked, the help menu gave detailed info on networking and setup. And if that didn't help, I hope he would repost with more questions. JR didn't say what kind of laptop or pc it is, operating system, if there is a present network, if it was from a work pc to the laptop, laptop to laptop, or other info to go on. A general question gets a general answer. Maybe you know JR, his setup, skills and just what he wanted to do, but I don't. I have no idea of JR's knowledge on pc's, so I didn't go into detail, what works on my computers, and my networks might not on his.
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Response Number 5
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Name: Dillard
Date: April 14, 1999 at 17:36:43 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Yes you can use direct cable connection to install software. I've used it with good success. You can use either a serial or parallel cable which you can buy at a computer store. The parallel cable is preferred because it sends data 8 bits at a time (8X faster than a serial cable). Go to the start button then pick help, then click on index and type "direct cable connection". This has a very good step by step instructions.
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Response Number 6
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Name: Lazarus
Date: April 15, 1999 at 04:43:23 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)ARGH!! I misunderstood my friend!! I thought that he was trying to hook up his laptop in order that he could SURF the net or whatnot with his LAPTOP!! OOPS! My bad! Again, my bad. Sure, hell, if ya just want to link files over.. I still recommend using Winlink. Keep in mind that in an email that he send to me.. he has Windows 3.1 as his OS. Again, my appoligies for the confusion. Lazarus
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Response Number 7
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Name: Hong Qu
Date: April 18, 1999 at 00:55:38 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)I have a very annoying Windows problem Almost got direct cable connect working. Until the final step. The guest computer cannot find any shared directory. But of course, I need to have a network up and running to share a directory. So Windows 95 refuses to either let me share a file (because I have no network net) or set up a DCC network(because I have no shared folder yet). This is a chicken or egg problem if there ever was one. Please send your recommendations. Thanks!
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Response Number 9
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Name: Chad
Date: April 21, 1999 at 18:03:24 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Need help myself. I have a new PIII500MHz, 64Ram, running Win95A and a CyrixMII200+, 32Ram both running Win95B I am trying to copy my files by using a DCC. The parallel cable I'm using is Belkin's AWM E101344Style20276 and isIEEE1284 Compliant. I run through the DCC troubleshooter and it saws that it can't help me further. I've set up my shared files, the host/guest thing, transfer protocols are bound-- done it all, but no glimmer of communication between the computers. Also tried the Cyrix200 with a PII350 running win98 also didn't work. Is the cable okay? Why won't it work? Any suggestions on how to set it up?
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Response Number 10
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Name: Curtis Low
Date: May 9, 1999 at 22:36:08 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)I am trying to connect 2 desktops using DCC. I had to use a null modem cable. Have gotten communication between them (verified user name and password), but haven't gotten the "guest" to display shared files. yet
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Response Number 11
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Name: Grimass
Date: May 10, 1999 at 20:40:08 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Curtis, A friend of mine got my connection to work. When I first started the connection I could not see any shared items. Then I used find computer and told it to find the Laptop. Just search for whatever name you used to identify the desktop computer. Remeber this is a one way connection the guest can access the host but the host cannot access the guest. Hope this helps. The best solution is to get a couple 3com cards and setup a real network. Also be sure that in the Network Properties that both computers have the same workgroup.
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Response Number 12
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Name: Jeff
Date: May 11, 1999 at 09:08:36 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Hey Chad, Go to Microsoft's home page and get the update for your dial up networking. You should be ok then. I had the same problems. Jeff
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Response Number 13
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Name: Cheryl
Date: May 13, 1999 at 10:31:27 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Hey Everyone!!! IF Dcc is all your trying to accomplish then you need to email me directly for a DCC setup document I have created. You see I run the Tech support Dept for DCC and the Universal Fast cable for Windows 95/98. Check out our web site at www.lpt.com for more information on our Parallel Cables...
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Response Number 14
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Name: Stan
Date: May 22, 1999 at 21:54:46 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)I have been trying to setup a direct cable connection between a PII450 and a PI100mhz. I have setup one as a guest, the other as a host. Both are running the same protocols and have the same ports selected but when I start the connection, the guest cannot find the host and vice-versa. What should I do? One system is Win98, the other Win95.
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Response Number 16
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Name: Jolasveinninn
Date: May 31, 1999 at 01:36:52 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)hey lazarus, i found the info you had on using a cable-internet connection via another computer very interesting. would i need somekindof proxy softwrare to accomplish that or something?
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Response Number 17
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Name: Michael Parks
Date: June 13, 1999 at 14:58:52 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)I finally got direct cable connect to work after buying the correct parallel cable from Best Buy. But it still doesn't show up in network neighborhood. Is it supposed to?
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Response Number 19
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Name: Sam Clark
Date: June 18, 1999 at 09:32:36 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Tim, Sure. In games like StarCraft for example all you have to do is run a null modem cable between the two computers and thats it. No configuring stuff or anything. Then just click on multi-player and do a direct connect game. Thats it.
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Response Number 20
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Name: Geo
Date: June 19, 1999 at 19:14:30 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Try to "find" your password files *.pwl.....now don't be scared....delete them amd reboot and do not enter passwords for windows....then the registry will rebuild it self with no password required. Also when you type in a name for each computer make sure it is the name used when you log on.If you make up a new name it won't work. This worked for me.
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Response Number 21
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Name: adrian
Date: June 29, 1999 at 07:00:47 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)I have got the serial DCC working wiht no problems but am stumped with the parallel connection. All settings seem OK. The two machines (both OS W98) just won't talk. Help would be greatly appreciated.
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Response Number 22
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Name: mercy
Date: June 29, 1999 at 13:55:03 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)I have DCC hooked up and working great. My problem is, I have only one monitor, keyboard and mouse. Anyone know how I can get DCC to open on both my pc's without having that extra euipment?
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Response Number 24
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Name: Shawn
Date: July 9, 1999 at 19:34:14 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Please help. Friday July 9 1999 Problem: when trying to connect via DIRECT CABLE CONNECTION, It connects, looks for the shared files and asks for the HOST NAME, which I enter correctly, and receive another error stating the host is not found. The HOST NAME is.. 2 What am i doing wrong? I have tried entering //2/ like when networking. (tried all variations) EQUIPMENT & SOFTWARE 1 desktop (P233/64Ram/Win95 Ver. 4.00950 C) 1 laptop (P120/24Ram/Win95 Ver. 4.00950 C) Parallel Cable Connection 25Pin M to 25Pin M All networking matches - IPX/SPX Prot. Binding in Dial Up Adapter Set Correctly Please email and will return the favor with help on other topics.
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Response Number 25
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Name: marcus
Date: July 10, 1999 at 09:08:28 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)dcc its just a wide wire sending info, 2 ways, so a standard printer setup ports wont work, needs to be epp, or ecp, you can set this up in your cmos(del when u start computer)usually, then in network neighborhood u gotta have some stuff set up, client for microsoft networks, client for netware networks(listed in microsft stuff), i use a protocol for netbeiu, i dono if u need it, but i use it for now, and also netbios for ipx, again i use it, Ive read alot stuff on this and it is a pain in the ass, atleast for me. also if u might get a host computers name pop up on ya, go in network neihbor hood and click id, sory for my spelling and quick explenation hope it helps somebody.
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Response Number 26
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Name: marcus
Date: July 10, 1999 at 09:14:08 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)dcc oh i just read this confusing thing, not wide wire, 8 wires, duh. And for games use the ipx protocol which can be found under most games multiplayerr options. do yourself a favor and dont get a serial dcc, cause its serial(1 bit at a time) compared to parellel(8 bits at a time) kinda be a waste the other way, if you gonna do that quicky thing just get a null modem cable, but there again its serial, and newer games dont seem to be to hip on this way. but ive played most of the c&c clones this way and it works tits.
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Response Number 27
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Name: marcus
Date: July 10, 1999 at 09:17:50 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)okay, ive done it again, the dcc with parallel works tits with games, but even when alot of action is going on, there is some slow down. thats why serial is kinda shitty. if your like me though soon youll want better, and you will be going getting a hub and a couple network cards(plug and pray ready) and then your there. now if i only had more computers. excuse my abuse of space here>. Marcus
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Response Number 28
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Name: Halfline
Date: July 15, 1999 at 00:22:33 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)I don't like using Direct Cable Connection because of the slow down caused at the computer being accessed... I'd still like to get an internet proxy setup tho. I've managed to get http set up fairly well with Winproxy and Wingate, but not SOCKS or Wingates WRP thing. Also, (like mentioned above) the computers never seem to be in Network Neighborhood(That may be why Proxy'n is so difficult). I'm about ready to just buy two network cards and a cross-wired cable to connect them together.
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Response Number 29
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Name: Lisa
Date: September 19, 1999 at 15:53:38 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)I am suppose to have Direct Cable Connection on my windows95 but it is not there!! Is there anywhere online I can download the DCC program????
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Response Number 30
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Name: Vic
Date: November 20, 1999 at 01:58:27 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)I'm here thanks to Google for answering my search so brilliantly. The salesman at PCWorld UK said it would be simple to connect my new Pentium 500(W98v2) to my Pentium 133 (W95) and sold me a Belkin cable!!!! Followed instructions and old computer quite happy awaiting his/her guest! Guest unable to arrive. Thought there might be a transport problem (Chad 9- is the cable ok?). The LPT1 port on the new machine had previously worked ok for a printer. Was advised to a cover disc trial of "Laplink Professional". This diagnosed problem that the LPT1 port on the new machine was locked. Accepted hazard warning and allowed Laplink to unlock. Job done! Don't really want to buy the expensive Laplink just for DCC and will follow Lazarus advice (Response 2) and hope to find similar but cheaper control software. (Couldn't find anything at Tucows!) I've got the password problem too and thanks Geo (Response 20) for your solution! I'll ask Cheryl (Response 13) for her technical notes. I've got a USB on the new machine but there are not enough spare ports to handle old printers, scanners etc Once again - thanks to you all Vic
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Response Number 31
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Name: Vic
Date: November 20, 1999 at 03:47:55 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)PS to message 30 Tried to send email to Cheryl for her info. pack and thanks to others for their input. My ISP has sent a dismal standard error message (referring to Microsoft software or the Direct Cable hardware?)as the reason for not being able to send email (Password clearance was ok) Presumably "Laplink" is merely controlling basic Microsoft bugware. Surely the simple consumer need for a Direct Cable Connection should be met by a checklist/diagnosis procedure in Windows 98 itself!!!!!! Guess it won't be too bright to undo my direct connections to access email! Could not find WINLINK at shareware.com as suggested by Lazarus. Found it at http://www.winlink.org/ Is this WinLink suitable for non-techies? Vic
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Response Number 32
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Name: Tassadar
Date: January 8, 2000 at 09:04:13 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)heehee. I know nothing of what u guys are talkin bout. I just like to post stupid messages about nothing. LoL. If any of you like Starcraft TELL ME!!!!
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Response Number 33
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Name: M
Date: January 13, 2000 at 13:31:34 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Does anyone know of another cable type to use for DCC other than the 4-bit laplink type (and yes, the laplink cable does only 4 bits because of how it is wired) and the Universal type (the kind with electronics wired on the cable)? I've tried the IEEE 1284 which is wired straight and which is implied to work and like a previous poster found out, it doesn't work.
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Response Number 34
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Name: DonR
Date: January 14, 2000 at 14:31:24 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Response to Mercy. I was looking at pinout information and remember someone explaining how to start a PC without a monitor with a jumper/resistor between two of the VGA pins. I saw it recently but couldn't track it down again. Try Altavista and Lycos searches. You can get a dead keyboard and dead mouse cheap and use them, too.
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Response Number 35
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Name: DebbieJKM
Date: February 16, 2000 at 16:14:31 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)I think I finally have DCC working (using serial ports, because I need my parallel port for my printer)-- a key was enabling Master Browse-- tecno demon uk has some great input on the whole issue. Anyway I can now access files from the host computer, but when I try to print from the guest computer to the (shared) printer that is physically connected to the host, the whole DCC connection crashes. Any helpful thoughts?
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Response Number 36
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Name: Gustavo Mirabile
Date: June 30, 2000 at 05:20:49 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Dear all I am trying to connect a Windows 2000 professional edition operating system computer with a Windows 98 Second Edition one by a direct cable connection. Everything goes smoothly but once the connection is established it drops very quickly (in less than a minute) if no data is transferred. Does anyone know how to stop the connection dropping? Thank you Gus
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Response Number 38
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Name: Mauricio García
Date: July 25, 2000 at 00:14:37 Pacific
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Reply: (edit) I found the following solution for the error "the name of the host..." remove or rename Vredir.vxd (if it exists) in the Windows\System folder, then extract a new copy from your original installation disks or CD-ROM to the Windows\System folder and your problem it's solved, but in my "original" instalation disk there is not the mentionated file so I'm still wating a solution. See you
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Response Number 39
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Name: zod
Date: July 25, 2000 at 23:02:18 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)The real truth is that DCC sucks as a network and it isnt much better than running accross the room with handfuls of floppies!! I'v had better success with old dos software. But I am interested in setting up a real network I have some etherlink 3com card 10mps any suggestions.
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Response Number 40
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Name: John C
Date: August 7, 2000 at 06:46:38 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)I have a network setup involving two computers, ethernet cards and a network cable. Everything's great. I'm considering moving from dialup to cable for internet service and networking another computer is allowed by the provider. What I'm wondering is whether I can use internet cable service AND the network I have in place now, simply for transferring files back and forth?
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Response Number 41
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Name: Bob Durkee
Date: August 22, 2000 at 15:45:18 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)All of you going to a real peer to peer network would be well advised to check our www.homepclan.com
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Response Number 42
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Name: alan fleming
Date: September 1, 2000 at 08:17:58 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)What are the pinouts for a parallel cable for DCC, or LAPLINK? I'm a cheapskate. Reply to my email, cos I'll probably never visit again :) Alan
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Response Number 43
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Name: Thomas
Date: September 21, 2000 at 22:27:39 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)If you need a quick and dirty fast connetion, for file exchange use Powercopy. DOS-WIN2000 WIN9x-WINNT4 .... no problem. Speed 200000-1500000 bytes a second. Price 100$ see www.datapower.de.
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Response Number 44
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Name: Salman
Date: November 14, 2000 at 08:13:36 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Hi I hava a laptop and I purchased a parellel cable from circuit city, to transfer files from my laptop to desktop. I have no clue what to do after that, please advice me the same Regards Salman
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Response Number 45
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Name: Blufftop
Date: December 12, 2000 at 01:38:36 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)I have been trying and trying to get the dcc thing to work i get all the way to a prompt that asks for a user and a password, I don't have any set but when i leave it blank it just disconects, i tried deleting my password file and that didn't work. HELP!!:)
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Response Number 46
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Name: Ramesh
Date: December 14, 2000 at 10:08:08 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)everyone should check out www.lpt.com I believe they are the guys (and gals if the case may be ?) who developed DCC for Microsoft. I've just managed to get my desktop and laptop DCC'ed by deleting all passwords on my laptop. on their page there is a useful diagnostic utility for DCC computers (about 900k file size I believe) Run it (or if u need a techie get one to run it) !. Good Luck All .
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Response Number 47
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Name: Bill
Date: January 6, 2001 at 00:27:48 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)ok. Heres my situation. I have a serial cable. I have a Win98 comp and a Win98 comp i need to hook together. I have been all around looking for how in the hell i can do it and NO one can help me. It can never recognize the computer! Ever! I cant tell whats the problem and i keep running into the same dumb trouble shootres every five minutes! What do i do?
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Response Number 48
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Name: Kathy
Date: January 14, 2001 at 21:42:54 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)How about this one? I set up my host computer fine, then set up the guest computer. When I hit the connect button, it said that "illegal operation, will shut down" crap. This is the error message I get: DIRECTCC caused an invalid page fault in module RASAPI32.DLL at 017f:7f89468b. Registers: EAX=00420808 CS=017f EIP=7f89468b EFLGS=00010202 EBX=00420808 SS=0187 ESP=0064f3e8 EBP=0064f820 ECX=0064f9e8 DS=0187 ESI=00000000 FS=4c57 EDX=0042002c ES=0187 EDI=00520b40 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 8b 06 85 c0 74 07 50 ff 15 94 47 8a 7f 56 ff 15 Stack dump: 005207f8 00401d47 00000000 0000145e 00000a10 0052099c 00200000 70100000 00000000 00000000 061f0000 01770001 4ae9845a 1364015f 4be80177 4bf00000 What is THIS? How do I fix it? Thanks!
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