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Damaged C, cannot install XP

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Name: _LD_
Date: March 26, 2006 at 04:52:06 Pacific
OS: WIN 98 SE
CPU/Ram: 256MB
Comment:

Hi,
This question probably has been asked numerous times, but here goes anyways. I tried installing XP to finally get rid of my old win98, but due to damaged areas in C, the installation cannot be effectuated. What can i do to solve this problem? Because i have simply no idea what and where these files would be. Is there a way to get around that to complete the installation of the new OS? Is formating an option? Must i resort to reinstalling win98 through the SE cd?
Thanks for the help,
~L



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Response Number 1
Name: trvlr
Date: March 26, 2006 at 05:49:57 Pacific
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..".but due to damaged areas in C...?

What is the exact error message you get?

Regardless, run a full chkdisk routine; perhaps even better download/run the utils for the drive from the manufacturer's web-site; and if none there for your drive, then use the Maxtor versions - they seem to work with most/many others too.

If the drive is faulty... or show up a lot of errors (bas sectors), then it would be wiser to replace it. Depending on where you live etc., drives are not so many $$/£££ these days?

Also what are the specs. for the PC on which you are hoping to install XP?


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Response Number 2
Name: _LD_
Date: March 26, 2006 at 07:32:40 Pacific
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Thanks for the reply. I don't get any further info on the nature of the damaged files. The error message appears at the startup of the windows xp installation, basically immediately after starting the computer. It sais that some areas in C are damaged and "cannot be repaired". I have no idea what these files are.


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Response Number 3
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: March 26, 2006 at 08:22:38 Pacific
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are you setting the bios to boot from CDROM while trying to load XP?

Hopefully my advice will help you...Please post back with your results....thanks


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Response Number 4
Name: trvlr
Date: March 26, 2006 at 08:32:46 Pacific
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I'd run the disk checking utils routine first, with drive as is; do not bother to reformat etc. it at this stage. If there are damaged/bad sectors on the drive they can frequently be marked out with these utils and not used thereafter; this may then allow the installation to complete.

Then perhaps have a go at a repair installation of XP as.

The problem "may" be due to an issue with RAM...

If you have two (or more) sticks of RAM installed reduce to a single stick (min 128Meg) - try each in turn - and see if you can get the installation to complete.

Also there is an XP readiness advisor (vets the system for XP compliance...); this is it very wise/useful to run - before starting to install the OS...

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/upgrading/advisor.mspx

There is a link to the download at the end of the text.

Once you have run the disk utils, it may be worth too to run a zero-fill routine to reset the drive as close as is possible to a factory-gate status. do NOT run a true low-level format on the drive. The zero-fill routine is frequently mis-nomered as Low Level Format (LLF) when it is really more of a Mid-Level-Format (MLF).

(Note: a true LLF will wreck most current drives - not what you want...)

Afterwhich you reconfigure the drive afresh and perhaps preformat it too (fa32) via a '98 boot-disk utils. Then run XP setup as per norm.

Overall I'd be inclined to run the disk utils first; closely observe/consider any info they cough up re' state of drive. If in any doubts about the drive afterwards, replace it and start afresh...


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Response Number 5
Name: bofra
Date: March 26, 2006 at 10:53:37 Pacific
Reply:

were there errors on drive when 98 was running?

what is the format of drive now, 32 bit(98) or ntfs(xp)?

may need to fdisk, format, and reload to choice of operating system,
how large is drive?



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Response Number 6
Name: franki
Date: March 26, 2006 at 12:10:26 Pacific
Reply:

wipe the disk with the utility from:

http://www.killdisk.com


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Response Number 7
Name: Derek
Date: March 26, 2006 at 15:44:48 Pacific
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I'd see what the rest of the team think before wiping the disk. If you only have an upgrade XP CD this might not be a good idea.

I'm no XP expert so I might be wrong, but better safe than sorry.

DerekW


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Response Number 8
Name: ham30
Date: March 26, 2006 at 16:33:36 Pacific
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No problem installing XP on a wiped disk. However you will need your win98 CD during the install to prove prior ownership.


Sorry, I do not check for private messages


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Response Number 9
Name: Derek
Date: March 26, 2006 at 16:50:55 Pacific
Reply:

Thx ham30

DerekW


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Response Number 10
Name: ham30
Date: March 26, 2006 at 18:28:46 Pacific
Reply:

OK Derek, we got to take care of each other. We all need a little clarification of our posts at times.


Sorry, I do not check for private messages


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Response Number 11
Name: GX1 Man
Date: March 26, 2006 at 18:35:02 Pacific
Reply:

If you've got a bad disk you might want to address that rather than trying to get an OS loaded.


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Response Number 12
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: March 26, 2006 at 19:15:57 Pacific
Reply:

sorry, are you guys all talking to yourself? This poster looks like he abandoned this thread.

Hopefully my advice will help you...Please post back with your results....thanks


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Response Number 13
Name: _LD_
Date: March 27, 2006 at 07:43:33 Pacific
Reply:

Thank you all for the replies. I'll check back as soon as i've tried something out.


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Response Number 14
Name: _LD_
Date: March 27, 2006 at 09:19:02 Pacific
Reply:

The killdisc variant seems a good idea, although it's a shame to lose basically everything. I was sent an email with a program called "Regen", a program that scans for damaged areas in c and restores them. Unfortunately, it didn't detect any missing or damaged sectors. Does anybody know more about this "Regen" program? I am still to follow trvlr's indications, for which i am grateful!
Later,
~L


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Response Number 15
Name: Dan Penny
Date: March 27, 2006 at 10:53:46 Pacific
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I too agree the hard disk should be tested by the manufacturers diagnostics. Before you stomp on it with a wiping tool. The manufacturers tools include this ability anyway. It's simple, it's free, and it's good insurance as to the disks health.

Disk Diagnostic Tools, major manufacturers

It's a good day when you learn something


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