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Hello,
Thank you DAVEINCAPS for your answer, it help me to see problem with CS4280 3D PCI - SoundFusion (DOS), help me to understand that my original driver (e-machine 533id) can not recognize sound card in DOS mode with 2 commands lines in Autoexec.bat and DosStart.bat:
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T4
C:\WINDOWS\CWCDATA\cwcdos.exeDoes someone have a address where I can download right drivers for DOS to support my sound card (from http://www.video-drivers.com/ and www.driverguide.com, do not work in DOS).
Thank you in advance
Marjan
http://www.cirrus.com/en/support/drivers/index.html
This is the home of Crystal Semiconductors and the CS4280 is not listed, also no MSDOS listed, it is probably to new.
Try to find a different card, PCI cards with a CMedia 8338/8738 chipset have pure DOS support:
http://www.cmedia.com.tw/e_download_01.htm, also ISA creative cards usually have DOS drivers available.
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Exit to dos and at the c:\windows> prompt type:
c:\windows\cwcdata\cwcdos
and enter. What does it say?
Maybe the file isn't there or maybe, as x86 implies, it's not designed for your particular sound card.
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This command line:
c:\windows\cwcdata\cwcdos
exist in DosStart.bat and messages is:" * A SoundFusion(tm) chip was not found."
When I choice "Command prompt only" from windows start up menu after restart there is no message, but games programs can not recognize sound card. In windows mode with the same original drivers everything is OK.
I fill so poor about it especially when a try to play my favorite game "Privateer 2 The Darkening". With my last computer I was able to start it with windows, I do know how. With "new" computer, I do not know how to do that, I can not start in DOS mode, and of course other favorite old DOS games.I will explore web site "http://www.cmedia.com.tw/e_download_01.htm", to see is any chance for sound with DOS mode.
Thank you x86 and DAVEINCAPS
MarjanPS. Original drivers information (inf file)
;********************************************
;
; CWCAUDIO.INF - Device description file for Windows 95 Plug-N-Play
;installation of the CS461x driver files.
;
; Copyright (c) 1996-1998 Crystal Semiconductor Corp.
;
;********************************************[Version]
Signature="$CHICAGO$"
CatalogFile=FUSV2870.cat
Class=MEDIA
provider=Crystal
LayoutFile=layout.inf
DriverVer=02/08/1999, 4.06.00.2870
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Getting the 'a sound fusion chip was not found' indicates the cwcdos file is for a different sound card. Do you know when that was installed?
I'm not sure about compatibility issues among crystal chips but the inf file you list above is for the CS461x series whereas you apparently have the CS4280. You may want to check the emachine site to verify which chip you have. I'll try to check that also some time tomorrow.
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It is impossible to see sound card because it is "build in" motherboard. I see the type on e-machine WEB site http://parts.emachines.com/emachines/ (in section "System Lookup", choice "eTower533id"):
BOM for : eTower 533id
Part Category Description Part Number
Modem: Modem w/ Conexant Chipset 232
Audio: CS4280 3D PCI Built-In
.....and drivers, what I use (with "inf" file which you saw) is from original CD from e-machine for "eTower 533id".
But great news !!! I discover today that some of my favorite games can work in Windows XP Dos prompt (just prompt :) ), with this configuration:
GAME FILE SHORTCUT:
In memory section
Conventional memory: Total->Auto Protect->yes
Initial environment: Auto
Expanded (EMS) memory: None
Extended (XMS) memory: None
MS-DOS protected mod (DPMI) memory: AutoIn screen section
Check only "Full screen" and "Display toolbars"and nothing check in "Misc" section
AUTOEXEC.BAT
@ECHO OFF
SET PROMPT=$p$g
SET winbootdir=C:\WINDOWS
lh c:\windows\command\mscdex /d:gem001
lh C:\WINDOWS\Mouse.exe
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T4
SET cwcdata=C:\windows\cwcdata
lh c:\windows\cwcdata\cwcdos.exe
@ECHO ONCONFIG.SYS
DOS=HIGH,UMB
Device=C:\WINDOWS\Himem.Sys
DeviceHigh=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.exe
DeviceHigh=C:\Dvdrom\oakcdrom.sys /d:gem001Thank you boys for your help.
DAVEINCAPS if you find today something please let me know, to get a chance to play other old games which I can not activate with "XP DOS prompt". If there is no solution, I have to be "happy" with this XP solutions, during I change this computer with new machine.Thanks again boys
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It's good you got it going in XP. Here's some additional info:
This page has some some dos downloads for that audio chip for motherboards with SiS and VIA chipset. I believe yours is Intel so they may not work:
http://vsynchmame.mameworld.net
The drivers they list are compatible with the CS4624, CS4614 and the CS4680 chips. So I'm thinking maybe the cwcdos.exe file is the correct one since it appears to be for the CS461X series. This may be a stupid question, but are you sure the sound is enabled in cmos? In addition some of the drivers on that page needed himem.sys to be loaded. You might want to post back contents of your config.sys so we can see what is being installed from there.
This page:
http://www.e4all.info/motherboards/anaheim2.htm
says your motherboard supports '. . . DOS Games compatibility via PC/PCI, DDMA support'. If you do try the drivers from the mameworld.net site one of them is CS46XX_DDMA.ZIP. That may be the one to try first.
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Instead of 'CS4680' in this sentence:
The drivers they list are compatible with the CS4624, CS4614 and the CS4680 chips.
it should be 'CS4280'.
I'll eventually get it right.
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I review my cmos, sound is enabled
A do not allow many programs in Autoexec.bat and Config.sysConfig.sys have this lines:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
REM [Header]
DOS=HIGH,UMB
Device=C:\WINDOWS\Himem.Sys
DeviceHigh=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.exeREM [DVD-ROM Drive]
DeviceHigh=C:\Dvdrom\oakcdrom.sys /d:gem001REM [Miscellaneous]
REM [SCSI Controllers]
REM [Display]
REM [Sound, MIDI, or Video Capture Card]
REM [Mouse]
REM ------------------Autoexec.bat
++++++++++++++++++++++++
@ECHO OFF
REM [Header]SET PROMPT=$p$g
SET winbootdir=C:\WINDOWS
SET PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\UTIL\NC
REM [DVD-ROM Drive]
lh c:\windows\command\mscdex /d:gem001REM [Miscellaneous]
REM [Display]
REM [Sound, MIDI, or Video Capture Card]
REM [Mouse]lh C:\WINDOWS\Mouse.exe
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T4
rem @SET CLASSPATH=c:\PROGRA~1\...
SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\PROGRA~1\...
SET cwcdata=C:\windows\cwcdata
lh c:\windows\cwcdata\cwcdos.exeI'll try driver from http://www.e4all.info/motherboards/anaheim2.htm this evening or tomorrow, and tell you more about results
Thanks
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Config.sys and autoexec.bat look OK. You could REM out these 2 lines in autoexec.bat:
lh c:\windows\command\mscdex /d:gem001
lh C:\WINDOWS\Mouse.exeand copy them to dosstart.bat. Windows doesn't need that stuff loaded since it will use it's own drivers. Adding them to dosstart.bat will give you cdrom and mouse access when you exit to dos. But keep the line that loads the cdrom driver in config.sys. That's the only place you can load the drivers.
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Also I think the 'DOS=HIGH,UMB' line in config.sys needs to be after the himem.sys and emm386.exe lines instead of before.
You also may want to experiment with REMing out the line:
lh c:\windows\cwcdata\cwcdos.exe
in autoexec.bat since you only need it when you exit to dos and it's already in dosstart.bat.
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The 2 lines in autoexec.bat. are necessary:
\windows\command\mscdex /d:gem001 (CD in DOS)
\WINDOWS\Mouse.exe (mouse in DOS)I accept your recommendations about 'DOS=HIGH,UMB' line in config.sys, even results of test with command 'mem' is equal.
Drivers from http://vsynchmame.mameworld.net (http://vsynchmame.mameworld.net/cs46xx_dos.zip) are same as from my original e-machine CD.
Important is that here a see new command options for cwcdos.exe (cwcdos.exe /v).I have these messages with this command now:
CrystalWare(tm) SoundFusion(tm) Initialization Utility, Version 2.80
Copyright (c) 1998 Crystal Semiconductor Corp. All Rights Reserved.
* Found PCI Bios.
* BA0 / BA1 not configured correctly.
* A SoundFusion(tm) chip was not found.Again SoundFusion(tm) chip was not found :(
Thanks
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If those 2 autoexec.bat lines are copied to dosstart.bat you will have cdrom and mouse support when you exit to dos. The problem with loading things in config.sys and autoexec.bat is that sometimes they can force msdos compatibility mode plus it can slow down windows operation.
A lot of the systems I set up are win 3.1 upgrades to 98. The original autoexec.bat files would load mscdex and the mouse driver. But as part of the installation, these files would be modified to REM out mscdex and the mouse driver. Then setup would create dosstart.bat with those two lines in it. A fresh installation doesn't do this.
But I'm sure that having them the way they are is not part of the problem you're having.
I believe the '/v' switch on cwcdos.exe/v stands for 'verbose' meaning that when it loads it just give more information on the screen.
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Two suggestions:
Go into cmos and see if you can reserve IRQ 5 for a legacy device. Sound cards, especially in dos, like to use this IRQ. I wouldn't think it would matter once you've exited to dos but give it a try.
Toggle the PnP OS setting in cmos. I know that dos drivers for some of the Creative cards won't load if PnP OS is set to yes (did I recommend that in your previous post? I can't remember).
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I change PnP OS setting, with "Other", but I'm unable to reserve IRQ 5 for a legacy device in cmos :(. Now sound card in some rear case, work as MIDI music, but there is not digital audio. Usually after reboot or restart in MS DOS mode, after first time of command "cwcdos /k /v" or "cwcdos /p /v"
I have this error:
CrystalWare(tm) SoundFusion(tm) Initialization Utility, Version 2.80
Copyright (c) 1998 Crystal Semiconductor Corp. All Rights Reserved.
* Found PCI Bios.
* Initializing the VCPI interface.
* Found a CS4280 Revision G.
* Loading DOS game task from C:\WINDOWS\CWCDATA\CWCDGAME.OSP.
* Initializing.
* Error Initializing.
* Uninitializing the VCPI interface.After first time, reaped the command a have this:
CrystalWare(tm) SoundFusion(tm) Initialization Utility, Version 2.80
Copyright (c) 1998 Crystal Semiconductor Corp. All Rights Reserved.
* Found PCI Bios.
* Kill the segment limit on GS.
* Found a CS4612 Revision A.
* Loading DOS game task from C:\WINDOWS\CWCDATA\CWCDGAME.OSP.
* Initializing.
* Resetting SP.
* Downloading DOS Game Tasks.
* Starting DOS Game Tasks.
* Error in starting the Task.
* Restoring the segment limit on GS.Maybe if I have a chance to reach IRQ 5, everything will be OK :(
By the way, some game which I can start in XP MS DOS prompt, in some part of game mouse froze :(
I start to hate this sound card ...
Thanks for everything
Marjan
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Options is:
CrystalWare(tm) SoundFusion(tm) Initialization Utility, Version 2.80
Copyright (c) 1998 Crystal Semiconductor Corp. All Rights Reserved.
Options:
/G ; Specifies the SoundFusion(tm) Game task file.
/K ; Specifies the SoundFusion(tm) DDMA task file.
/P ; Specifies the SoundFusion(tm) PCPCI task file.
/H, /? ; This message.With "/G" only say that:
* Initializing the VCPI interface.
* Found a CS4280 Revision G.
* Uninitializing the VCPI interface.but ther is not soun in DOS
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The dos driver is seeing the chip now. So a little progress has been made. Did it start doing that after you changed the PnP OS setting?
It's not setting up though. I assume the /G, /K, /P switches are for cwcdos.exe. Cwcdos is a command line function and doesn't need to run from dosstart.bat. You can enter the command at the dos prompt. That way you can try them all:
cwcdos/g
and enter. If that doesn't work type:
cwcdos/k
and:
cwcdos/p
I'm not familiar with that software and can only give you general advice. It almost sounds as though it's missing some files but I don't know if reistalling the drivers would help. Was a readme.txt file included with the drivers? If so it may give some info in setting it up.
You may need to keep experimenting with it. I can't think of any more specific things to try.
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Not just a little progress, but now it's work :). I cannot understand why only in "restart in MS DOS mode", and not after computer reboot, and choosing "Command prompt only" from startup menu. But never mind now it’s work. Yes, after changed in the PnP OS setting :).
Other necessary command lines in autoexec areDOS=HIGH,UMB
Device=C:\WINDOWS\Himem.Sys
DeviceHigh=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.exeOther important is line:
SET BLASTER=A220 I11 D1 T4
a can not see way to set "I5", probably as default value is available only "I11".Thank you very much DAVEINCAPS for your useful help. In case if you need drivers for this card, because you work on computers upgrades, I can put originals from e-machine CD, on some free host server.
Thanks again, have a wonderful day
and take a care
Marjan
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I'm glad you got it going. To get it to run after using the boot menu to get 'command prompt only' you may need to run the dosstart.bat file. After booting to the command prompt, at the c:\> prompt type:
c:\windows\dosstart
and enter. If that doesn't work I guess you'll just have to run Windows and then exit to dos.
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No, it's not true that I use original files, with them I cannot use sound card in dos. Now I see. Full support gives me the files from http://vsynchmame.mameworld.net/cs4xxx.zip. These drivers give find sound card and do not give error. Sorry, it was little misunderstanding. I know that this forum go on search, and I hope that it will help to many users.
Again thanks DAVEINCAPS.
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