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Name: Airliners 2000
Date: April 7, 2003 at 20:20:55 Pacific
OS: Windows 98 Second Edition
CPU/Ram: Pentium III 600MHz/384MB
Comment:

After a while (an hour or so) of the computer being on, it has a tendancy to start slowing down. What happens is every few seconds, the computer starts to pause. That means the mouse will stop moving for about 2 seconds then come back then stop then come back, etc. Same story when I am typing.

I tried to use Cacheman to free up the cache but it did absolutely nothing. As I am typing this post, there are paused about every 5 seconds that last 2 seconds long.

Whenever the computer performs an action (such as if I press a link on a website) the pause can last up to 10 seconds which is extremely irritating. Pop-ups also make the pauses extremely long since the computer is performing an action.

Anyone have any idea what might be causing this? So far, I have found the only solution to be is to restart the computer every time the problem comes.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards



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Response Number 1
Name: renxwar
Date: April 7, 2003 at 21:10:07 Pacific
Reply:

how old is the computer? do you hear the harddrive starting up whenever it pauses? do you hear a clicking?


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Response Number 2
Name: renxwar
Date: April 7, 2003 at 21:10:40 Pacific
Reply:

scratch how old it is, forgot to look at your cpu info


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Response Number 3
Name: Johnw
Date: April 7, 2003 at 21:17:19 Pacific
Reply:

1st step , run a virus check from 1 of these & then give it a good clean out .
Online Virus check ( free )
http://housecall.antivirus.com/
http://www.coledata.com/virusalert.htm
http://www.cybertechhelp.com/html/misc/av.php
http://www.pandasoftware.es/activescan/activescan-com.asp

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From Windows Explorer , Delete all the files ( except the read only file )
in Windows > Applog . Taskmon will rebuild the Applog file .
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q218160

To view Applog , do this .
Windows Explorer > View > Folder Options > View , click on Show all files . Click OK .
http://www.windows-help.net/windows98/start-17.shtml

If you have plenty of memory , disable Taskmon .
Start > Run , type in msconfig & press Enter .
Click on Startup & untick TaskMonitor .

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Run Scandisk Standard ( do not Tick > Automatically fix errors )
Scandisk log records the errors .
http://users.iafrica.com/c/cq/cquirke/scandisk.htm

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;q259161&FR=1
Computer Speed and Performance May Decrease
The information in this article applies to:
Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition
Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition
Microsoft Windows 98
Microsoft Windows 95

Streamling startups .
http://www.pcforrest.freeserve.co.uk/streamlining_startups.htm
http://ww2.whidbey.net/djdenham/Uncheck.htm
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_index.htm
http://www.3dspotlight.com/tweaks/startup/start4.shtml
http://www2.whidbey.net/djdenham/Running_items.htm
http://www.djbdesigns.com/wtvzone/startup.html

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http://beam.to/spybotsd
What does SpyBot-Search & Destroy?

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information about your surfing behaviour and more to the net.
If SpyBot-S&D finds such modules, it can remove them - or replace them with empty dummies in
case their host software won't run with its bot removed. In most cases, the host still runs
fine after removing the bot.
For a list of 'supported' bots see the feature lists below. The Spybot-S&D interface is so
easy, that updates just require replacing a file of about 80k in size. Those updates are
distributed by my software mailinglist, over this page and are also available from inside the
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Another feature of Spybot S&D is the removal of usage tracks, which makes it more complicated
for unknown spybots to transmit useful data. The list of last visited websites, opened files,
started programs, cookies, all that and more can be cleaned. Supported are the three major
browsers Internet Explorer, Netscape Communicator and Opera.

Last but not least Spybot-S&D contains some routines to find and correct invalid entries into
the registry.

Red entries indicate spyware problems that should be fixed to avoid security and/or privacy
problems. This is the only kind of problem that is preselected to be fixed.

Black entries are system internals. If you do not know what they mean, I would suggest to either
keep your fingers from it or visit the support forum.

Green entries indicate usage tracks. It can do no harm to remove these.

I personally only remove the Red entries as the Green entries remove items I use .

Make sure you use the SpyBot > Online > Update button regularly .

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SpywareBlaster doesn't scan and clean for spyware - it prevents it from ever being installed.

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The SpywareBlaster database contains information on these known spyware Active-X controls. Make
sure you run the Check For Updates feature frequently to get the latest database! (And make sure
you check the new items to protect your system against them!)

As a side benefit, setting this "kill bit" will also prevent the spyware Active-X from running,
in many cases, if it is already installed on your system.*

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http://www.wilderssecurity.com/spywareguard.html

SpywareGuard provides a real-time protection solution against spyware that is a great addition
to SpywareBlaster's protection method.

An anti-virus program scans files before you open them and prevents execution if a virus is
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SG Control Panel - provides easy access to help and integration options
SG LiveUpdate - provides an easy updating solution
Spyware files are blocked before being opened or run - they are not simply shut down after they
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The full path to the spyware executable is provided on the alert screen
Once a spyware file is detected and blocked from running, the options are provided to either
continue or to delete the spyware file
It's a free download

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bookmarks created and stored over time by the user. IE Cache: This includes cookies, history
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Or ,

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Cleans >
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Click on Spider , not Spider Bite .

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Index.dat
Delindex works in Win98 and WinME .
http://www.burzurq.com/forum/delindex.html
The primary purpose of Delindex is to delete Index.dat files which are never resized, and only
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and no other files to run. All notes are within the program, so there are no separate ReadMe or
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Response Number 4
Name: FZWG
Date: April 7, 2003 at 21:36:05 Pacific
Reply:

Might want to consider going here:

http://www.lurkhere.com/~nicefiles/

and downloading Hijack This!. It is a good and simple to use program.

Unzip it, launch the program, and then press "Config" > "Miscellaneous Tools", and "Generate Startuplist Log".

A text file that lists all running processes, the applications that are loaded automatically when you start Windows, and more, is created.

Go to Edit > Select All, and copy/post its contents for us to take a gander.



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Response Number 5
Name: Airliners 2000
Date: April 8, 2003 at 20:17:19 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for all the replies.

The first thing I did today was I ran Norton Antivirus with the latest virus definitions. It found no virus.

Then I ran Norton WinDoctor which is part of Norton Utilities. It found only 6 errors, none of which are critical at all (just some missing shortcuts).

I then ran Windows ScanDisk Standard and it found absolutely no errors.

I then ran SpyBot Search & Destroy which I do on a regular basis and it just found some basic spyware files like Alexa.

I then backed up the Applog folder and deleted it from the C:\WINDOWS folder. Then I ran disk clean up.

My system resources are well above the 70% range which is great. I am really puzzled at this problem.

The strange thing is this periodic pauses started to appear after I defragged my heavily fragmented hard drive. Instead of making my computer run more efficiently, I found no changes whatsoever in terms of computer performance and have started to have the periodic pauses. Maybe I shouldn't have defragged it.

I ran Hijack This, and here is the information you requested:

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StartupList report, 4/8/03, 9:16:07 PM
StartupList version: 1.52
Started from : C:\UNZIPPED\HIJACKTHIS193\HIJACKTHIS.exe
Detected: Windows 98 SE (Win9x 4.10.2222A)
Detected: Internet Explorer v5.51 SP2 (5.51.4807.2300)
* Using default options
==================================================

Running processes:

C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\KERNEL32.DLL
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSGSRV32.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MPREXE.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\mmtask.tsk
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WINMODEM.101\wmexe.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\WILD FILE\GOBACK\GBPOLL.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MSTASK.exe
C:\WINDOWS\TASKMON.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SYSTRAY.exe
C:\WINDOWS\STARTER.exe
C:\WINDOWS\GWHOTKEY.exe
C:\WINDOWS\TPPALDR.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.exe
C:\WINDOWS\TPPSTRAY.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\REAL\UPDATE_OB\REALSCHED.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\NORTON ANTIVIRUS\NAVAPW32.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\MOTIVE\TUNER\COMMON\MOTMON.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\MICROSOFT MONEY\SYSTEM\REMINDER.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\WILD FILE\GOBACK\GBMENU.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WMIEXE.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\DDHELP.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\INTERNET EXPLORER\IEXPLORE.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\INTERNET EXPLORER\IEXPLORE.exe
C:\PROGRAM FILES\INTERNET EXPLORER\IEXPLORE.exe
C:\WINDOWS\EXPLORER.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\PSTORES.exe
C:\UNZIPPED\HIJACKTHIS193\HIJACKTHIS.exe

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Listing of startup folders:

Shell folders Startup:
[C:\WINDOWS\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp]
GoBack.lnk = C:\Program Files\Wild File\GoBack\GBMenu.exe
STARUPDATER.EXE.lnk = C:\PROGRAM FILES\STAR ALLIANCE TIMETABLE\STARUPDATER.exe

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Autorun entries from Registry:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

ScanRegistry = C:\WINDOWS\scanregw.exe /autorun
TaskMonitor = C:\WINDOWS\taskmon.exe
SystemTray = SysTray.exe
EnsoniqMixer = starter.exe
LoadPowerProfile = Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
Multi-function Keyboard = GWHotKey.exe
TPP Auto Loader = C:\WINDOWS\TPPALDR.exe
StillImageMonitor = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\STIMON.exe
TkBellExe = "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
3dfx Tools = rundll32.exe 3dfxCmn.dll,CMNUpdateOnBoot
3dfx Task Manager = "C:\Program Files\3dfx Interactive\3dfx Tools\Apps\3dfxMan.exe"
Norton Auto-Protect = C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\NAVAPW32.exe /LOADQUIET
StarUpdater =

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Autorun entries from Registry:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\RunServices

winmodem = WINMODEM.101\wmexe.exe
LoadPowerProfile = Rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,LoadCurrentPwrScheme
GoBack Polling Service = C:\Program Files\Wild File\GoBack\GBPoll.exe
SchedulingAgent = mstask.exe

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Shell & screensaver key from C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM.INI:

Shell=Explorer.exe
SCRNSAVE.EXE=
drivers=mmsystem.dll power.drv

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C:\WINDOWS\WININIT.BAK listing:
(Created 5/4/2003, 22:50:20)

[rename]
nul=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\~ef7194.tmp
nul=C:\WINDOWS\TEMP\~ef7194.tmp

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C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT listing:

C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~1\NAVDX.exe /Startup
C:\PROGRA~1\WILDFI~1\GOBACK\GB_PROG.exe /i C:1159
SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H7 P330 T6
SET SBPCI=C:\SBPCI
PROMPT $P$G
PATH=C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\COMMAND;C:\;C:\CDROM;C:\BRCD\BIN;C:\BRCD\COMMAND
LH C:\DVDROM\MSCDEX /D:MSCD000

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Enumerating Browser Helper Objects:

(no name) - C:\PROGRAM FILES\ADOBE\ACROBAT 5.0\READER\ACTIVEX\ACROIEHELPER.OCX - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3}

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Enumerating Task Scheduler jobs:

Tune-up Application Start.job
Scan for Viruses.job

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Enumerating Download Program Files:

[Shockwave Flash Object]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MACROMED\FLASH\FLASH.OCX
CODEBASE = http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab

[Shockwave ActiveX Control]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\MACROMED\DIRECTOR\SWDIR.DLL
CODEBASE = http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/director/swdir.cab

[Update Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\IUCTL.DLL
CODEBASE = http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/CAB/x86/ansi/iuctl.CAB?37633.6672337963

[{41F17733-B041-4099-A042-B518BB6A408C}]
CODEBASE = http://a1540.g.akamai.net/7/1540/52/20021205/qtinstall.info.apple.com/borris/us/win/QuickTimeInstaller.exe

[sys Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLOADED PROGRAM FILES\PCPITSTOP.DLL
CODEBASE = http://www.pcpitstop.com/pcpitstop/PCPitStop.CAB

[OPUCatalog Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\OPUC.DLL
CODEBASE = http://office.microsoft.com/productupdates/content/opuc.cab

[iCC Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLOADED PROGRAM FILES\PCPCONNCHECK.DLL
CODEBASE = http://www.pcpitstop.com/internet/pcpConnCheck.cab

[DiskHealth Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLOADED PROGRAM FILES\CONFLICT.1\DISKHEALTH.DLL
CODEBASE = http://www.pcpitstop.com/pcpitstop/diskhealth.cab

[CoGSManager Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLOADED PROGRAM FILES\GSMANAGER.DLL
CODEBASE = http://gamingzone-dev.ubisoft.com/dev/packages/GSManager.cab

[printQuick Browser Add In]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLO~1\PRINTQ~1.DLL
CODEBASE = http://www.pqpc.com/plugin/axversion/1000/printQuick.cab

[MaxisSimCity4PatcherX Control]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\DOWNLO~1\MAXISS~1.OCX
CODEBASE = http://simcity.ea.com/patch/MaxisSimCity4PatcherX.cab

[WTHoster Class]
InProcServer32 = C:\WINDOWS\WT\WEBDRIVER\WTHOSTCTL.DLL
CODEBASE = http://install.wildtangent.com/bgn/partners/ea/needforspeed/install.cab

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Enumerating ShellServiceObjectDelayLoad items:

WebCheck: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WEBCHECK.DLL

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End of report, 6,710 bytes
Report generated in 0.282 seconds

Command line options:
/verbose - to add additional info on each section
/complete - to include empty sections and unsuspicious data
/full - to include several rarely-important sections
/force9x - to include Win9x-only startups even if running on WinNT
/forcent - to include WinNT-only startups even if running on Win9x
/forceall - to include all Win9x and WinNT startups, regardless of platform
/history - to list version history only
----------------

That's everything.

Thanks for all the replies. Looking forward to your recommendations.

Kind Regards



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Response Number 6
Name: Airliners 2000
Date: April 9, 2003 at 16:22:55 Pacific
Reply:

Anyone????


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Response Number 7
Name: Airliners 2000
Date: April 9, 2003 at 21:19:37 Pacific
Reply:

bump


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Response Number 8
Name: FZWG
Date: April 9, 2003 at 22:15:50 Pacific
Reply:

No bump. Was doing something else, and finally got here.

Can't really see anything there that indicates malware.

Might want to consider trimming down your startup list running processes, though. Some of the items are not used all the time, and can be accessed through Start>Programs, etc. when needed.

Right-click the icons in the tray area, open each, go through the options to turn off the "tray" or "run at startup" feature.

For others, go to Start>Run, type: msconfig.
Under startup tab.... leave Systray, Scan Registry, Load Power Profile, and for info on any other processes that you have, check here:
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_pages/startup_full.htm

After doing some 'trimming', it might also be a good idea to rebuild/repair the registry, but back it up first!!

Reboot and hold the CTRL button down, until you get the boot menu. Then choose: Command prompt only.
At C:\>, type: SCANREG /OPT /FIX and press: Enter.
At the next prompt type 'win' and press: Enter to restart Windows.

See if that makes it work better.


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Response Number 9
Name: Echo
Date: April 9, 2003 at 22:37:37 Pacific
Reply:

A 'Clean Boot' procedure using the System Configuration Utility (Start>Run>MSConfig)may help isolate a problem with one of all those startups.

If you do a Google search for: Clean Boot MSConfig, you will find all sorts of websites with info for doing a clean boot in W98.

Let us know how it goes.


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Response Number 10
Name: Airliners 2000
Date: April 10, 2003 at 14:11:58 Pacific
Reply:

I'll give it a shot guys. Thanks


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Response Number 11
Name: Echo
Date: April 10, 2003 at 19:12:19 Pacific
Reply:

Post back on how it goes.

Normally, the 'leaner' you keep the PC, the better it runs.

Also, start the PC in Safe Mode, and take a look at My Computer>Device Manager. See if there are any yellow or red marks in there, any duplicate devices, etc.

Driver problems can also bring about strange behaviors.


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Response Number 12
Name: FZWG
Date: April 10, 2003 at 19:31:34 Pacific
Reply:

Airliners 2000,

Take a look at the information provided for this entry:
TkBellExe = "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot

at the following website:
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist_e.htm

Sure looks like a good candidate to trim out.


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Response Number 13
Name: Airliners 2000
Date: April 11, 2003 at 15:40:20 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for the replies. I tried out cleaning the startup a bit and I refreshed the registry. The problem is still occuring.

The strange thing is this problem popped up after I defragged my computer.

It only happens after using many applications or memory intense applications (such as scanning software, graphic programs like Paint Shop Pro 7, etc.)

The odd thing is the computer is still choppy even after closing all the programs. It's as if the memory is still being eaten up and only restarting the comp fixes it. Again, this problem didn't start to happen until I defragged my comp.

Regards


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Response Number 14
Name: FZWG
Date: April 11, 2003 at 19:11:34 Pacific
Reply:

Can't help but thinking that memory is somehow involved in the problem.

Try the following:
Start>Settings>Control Panel and 2xClick the System Icon.
Select the Performance Tab.
Select the Virtual Memory button.
Select "Let me specify my own virtual memory settings."
Set the Minimum and Maximum settings to the same value (Have mine set at 384MB, have 448MB of RAM and OS=W98SE)
Reboot PC and give it another whirl.

If the above does not produce any improvement, in your shoes I would run Defrag again, this time closing ALL running programs (except Explorer and Systray) by using Ctrl-Alt-Del. Also disable any screensaver.
An alternative is to run Defrag in Safe Mode.
See how it goes after that.


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Response Number 15
Name: FZWG
Date: April 11, 2003 at 19:20:01 Pacific
Reply:

Afterthought...

Might want to run a memory test:

http://hcidesign.com/memtest/download.html


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Response Number 16
Name: Airliners 2000
Date: April 17, 2003 at 17:17:43 Pacific
Reply:

The memory test program didn't work for me. It kept staying at 0%.

I defragged my computer in Safe Mode and it did not resolve the problem.

This is really starting to bother me and I don't know what to do. Every hour I have to restart my computer........


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Response Number 17
Name: Airliners 2000
Date: April 18, 2003 at 16:08:02 Pacific
Reply:

bump



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