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Name: XpUser4Real
Date: July 31, 2005 at 08:08:32 Pacific
OS: 98se
CPU/Ram: 500/64ram
Comment:

Hi,
I did a fresh install on a laptop, but I can't seem to get it to install my D-Link DCM 202 modem. I tried d/l the latest drivers from their website and win98 can't find them. I called tech support (waited 45 minutes to reach one...thank goodness I have a speaker phone! The tech got on but couldn't get me going. I even loaded in SP1 with IE6 because I read that on a Google search it would help me to get the laptop to install the modem. Numerous Googles and site searches, but they haven't worked for me. Anyone have any good ideas?
Thanks

Hopefully my advice will help you...Please post back with your results....thanks



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Response Number 1
Name: Martin Crandall
Date: July 31, 2005 at 08:21:50 Pacific
Reply:

Drivers for a cable modem?

Every cable modem I have ever seen is a seperate, self contained piece of hardware. They neither need drivers, nor have them available.

My first guess would be the NIC. Is it working? When you reinstalled, did you install the drivers for the Network Card?

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Response Number 2
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: July 31, 2005 at 08:34:13 Pacific
Reply:

Hi Martin,
Actually, what is happening is that I have to install the usb drivers for the modem. That is the only connection I have for an exterior cable modem.

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Response Number 3
Name: StuartS
Date: July 31, 2005 at 08:41:56 Pacific
Reply:

The ony time you will need drivers for a cable/DSL modem is if the modem has a USB connection then it is a USB driver you need.

However as the DCM 202 has a USB connection, then USB drivers may be needed. If it is connected by Ethernet, then no drivers are needed.

Amizingly, is took me all of ten seconds to find a download site for DCM 202 drivers.

DCM 202 drivers


Stuart


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Response Number 4
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: July 31, 2005 at 09:01:57 Pacific
Reply:

Stuart, I'm glad you read my post, thanks. Did you notice I said I d/l the latest drivers and they still wouldn't install?
I don't have an ethernet connection either, just USB

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Response Number 5
Name: The Count
Date: July 31, 2005 at 09:38:32 Pacific
Reply:

Hi XpUser4Real, Martin, Stuart, hi everyone

Personally I don't have any experience with USB Cable modems, so the following is simply a thought...

Uninstall the currently installed drivers for the USB modem, make sure you clean out any references in the registry as well.
Disconnect the modem from the laptop's USB port, reboot. Now first install the drivers you believe are best suitable, and reboot when required. When that is done reconnect the modem to the laptop and see how that turns out.

XpUser4Real <=> OS: 98se ;-)

Best Regards and Wishes,
The Count, Co-webmaster of mesich.com


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Response Number 6
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: July 31, 2005 at 09:49:37 Pacific
Reply:

Hi The Count,
Thanks for the great info. Can you maybe help me by walking me through on how to uninstall all the drivers like you mentioned...I don't have much experience with Win98se. Especially with the registry
Thanks

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Response Number 7
Name: The Count
Date: July 31, 2005 at 10:22:47 Pacific
Reply:

Hi XpUser4Real, Martin, Stuart, hi everyone

I would reboot in to Safe-mode, go to the Device-manager, delete the references for the Cable modem from there. When that is done go to Start => Run and type in:
scanregw and click OK to create a backup of the registry before making any changes. You can also make a complete dump of the current registry within the registry manager. To launch the registry manager go to Start => Run and type in:
regedit and click OK.

In the registry manager do a search for D-link, DCM 202, DCM and delete the entries found.

When done go to Windows Explorer, locate the folder C:\Windows\Inf\Other and delete the D-link related files.

Reboot in to Normal mode and try to install the drivers, again I don't have any experience with USB Cable modem's and the previous response is just a thought... it may or may not work.

Best Regards and Wishes,
The Count, Co-webmaster of mesich.com


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Response Number 8
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: July 31, 2005 at 10:44:45 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks Count,
I'll give that a try and let you know...I'll be gone for about 4 hours as of now and then i'll try it

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Response Number 9
Name: The Count
Date: July 31, 2005 at 10:54:03 Pacific
Reply:

Hi XpUser4Real, Martin, Stuart, hi everyone

Your welcome, and good luck. I hope it helps.
Please do... surely someone will be around to pick-up. It isn't known whether I will be around over 4 hours, it's now 19:50 hours here in The Netherlands and I have to return at the office tomorrow after a three-week holiday break. :-)

Again good luck, and do keep us posted.

Best Regards and Wishes,
The Count, Co-webmaster of mesich.com


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Response Number 10
Name: Rimfire
Date: July 31, 2005 at 15:37:30 Pacific
Reply:

The most common cause of USB problems on windows 98 is if the motherboard chipset drivers are not installed. Windows 98 does not have native support for USB and needs these drivers installed before any device can be successfully installed.

Check in device manager.


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Response Number 11
Name: The Count
Date: July 31, 2005 at 16:19:12 Pacific
Reply:

Hi XpUser4Real, Martin, Stuart, Rimfire, hi everyone

Good point, Rimfire!
I may have been presumptuous or ignorant assuming the MoBo chipset drivers have been installed and that everything has been functioning normally without any question- or exclamation marks in the Device manager... apologies should have thought of it first hand.

Planning to go off-line shortly...

Best Regards and Wishes,
The Count, Co-webmaster of mesich.com


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Response Number 12
Name: Rimfire
Date: July 31, 2005 at 16:41:27 Pacific
Reply:

Whilst not nearly as bad as Linux dependancy hell, there is a correct sequence to instaling windows.

As I have never seen it written anywhere, I'll outline the steps I find works best.

Install windows.

Install chipset drivers.

Install onboard devices and video drivers.

Install audio drivers if not onboard.

Upgrade DirectX.

Upgrade Internet Explorer.

Install external devices such as modems and Printers.

Now you are ready to install software.


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Response Number 13
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: July 31, 2005 at 17:40:50 Pacific
Reply:

I think your problem is where you said you downloaded the latest drivers from their website and win98 can't find them.

Did you extract the download properly? Are you sure you pointed to the correct driver location when windows asked for the drivers?

If you're not sure about the drivers post back the link to the download.


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Response Number 14
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: July 31, 2005 at 22:03:23 Pacific
Reply:

Hi,
I tried The Count's advice response 7 but still no luck. Rimfire response 12, I'm not quite sure of what you're saying? I switched the HP notebook from win ME to Win98se and I've never heard of doing all the things you said. I thought just doing a fresh install of windows would work? DAVEINCAPS response 13, I d'l the newest driver from the D-Link site and put them in a folder and extracted it in there. I put the folder in C drive. I got the driver here http://support.dlink.com/products/view.asp?productid=DCM%2D202
I directed the install to that folder

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Response Number 15
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: July 31, 2005 at 22:53:54 Pacific
Reply:

Unzipping that file creates a folder named DCM-202_USBDrivers_100 and puts the extracted files there. So if you extract them the root directory, C:\>, the drivers can be found in c:\DCM-202_USBDrivers_100 so that's where you'd direct the search.

Rimfire went into more detail than was probably necessary but as he said, it'd be a good idea to check in device manager (right click on 'my computer', then 'properties' and 'device manager') to make sure the USB ports are properly identified. 98 would have installed its USB drivers when the OS was first installed, assuming the ports were enabled in cmos/bios setup.

The 'found new hardware' box should open when you plug the modem in or, if it's already plugged in, it should show on first boot up. It's possible the modem is already showing in device manager as some kind of unknown device. If so, you can click on it there and choose to install the drivers.


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Response Number 16
Name: Rimfire
Date: August 1, 2005 at 00:56:14 Pacific
Reply:

Response 12 was more of a generalisation than a direct response to your question.

If you have not installed the chipset drivers for the motherboard, your computer will not have USB support. Without this, device drivers will 'sort of' install but the computer will not recognise the device.

If you don't have the motherboard driver CD, you will need to download them from the HP website.


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Response Number 17
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: August 1, 2005 at 14:34:36 Pacific
Reply:

DAVEINCAPS, I tried that but I keep getting windows was not able to locate a driver for this device and then proceeds to load it as an unknown piece of hardware

Rimfire, I've tried looking for the drivers from HP and all they want to give me is drivers for Windows NT? Nothing for 98se

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Response Number 18
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: August 1, 2005 at 15:05:26 Pacific
Reply:

If you're sure the device it's finding is the modem then I'd think it's either a different model, the wrong drivers or it's looking in the wrong location.

What's the exact model number of the laptop so we can see about chipset drivers?



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Response Number 19
Name: The Count
Date: August 1, 2005 at 15:29:59 Pacific
Reply:

Hi XpUser4Real, Martin, Stuart, Rimfire, DAVEINCAPS, hi everyone

"Whilst not nearly as bad as Linux dependancy..."
Rimfire, I'll take your word for that. :-)
I have never taken the time to even look at the disk (maybe even two) I have lying around here somewhere, don't even know for sure if it is RedHat or Suse, not to mention the version(s).

I concur on all following responses up till now, and would like to add that to address the hardware as best as possible with the OS installed (in this case Win98) installation of the MotherBoard chipset drivers is always required. In the event of "external" hardware, drivers are also required. For example: you can put in a 200$ Video card and accept it to run on 16 or 256 colors. Or you can install the appropriate drivers and have it run on 16bit High Color or 24bit True Color, makes a hack of a difference. :-)

Sorry to hear that my response #7 didn't help to get you going. :-(
Go along with Rimfire and DAVEINCAPS their lead, install the drivers for the MoBo and direct the "New Hardware wizard" to the location where you have extracted the downloaded file (C:\downloaded folder\DCM-202_USBDrivers_100).

Best Regards and Wishes,
The Count, Co-webmaster of mesich.com


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Response Number 20
Name: The Count
Date: August 1, 2005 at 15:33:38 Pacific
Reply:

Hi XpUser4Real, Martin, Stuart, Rimfire, DAVEINCAPS, hi everyone

Looks like I am on slow-motion typing today, got overlapped again. :-(

Best Regards and Wishes,
The Count, Co-webmaster of mesich.com


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Response Number 21
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: August 1, 2005 at 23:46:42 Pacific
Reply:

DAVEINCAPS, The notebook is Hp Pavillion N3402. I got on-line with HP Techs and they directed me to some motherboard and USB drivers, maybe they will work. I'll let you know. Count, thanks for getting back on this also, everyone's help is appreciated, that's for sure.

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Response Number 22
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: August 2, 2005 at 00:02:30 Pacific
Reply:

Well I installed the chipset drivers and still no luck, my cable modem comes up as unknow device. This is becoming a royal PAIN!

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Response Number 23
Name: Rimfire
Date: August 2, 2005 at 03:57:48 Pacific
Reply:

Now when you look in device manager, you should be able to see the USB controllers. While there, delete the 'unkown device(s)'. Make sure that nothing is connected to any USB port and reboot.

After windows has completed its house work, plug the modem in to a USB port. With luck You should get a message about a new device. Windows should then identify the modem and discover the drivers.

The rebooting without any USB devices attached is quite important.


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Response Number 24
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: August 2, 2005 at 06:18:31 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for everyones help...I just decided to reformat and re-install the OS again.
It was a long haul!

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Response Number 25
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: August 2, 2005 at 10:56:09 Pacific
Reply:

Were you then able to install the cable modem drivers?


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Response Number 26
Name: The Count
Date: August 2, 2005 at 17:25:20 Pacific
Reply:

Hi XpUser4Real, Martin, Stuar, Rimfire, DAVEINCAPS, hi everyone

"...Please post back with your results....thanks"

Best Regards and Wishes,
The Count, Co-webmaster of mesich.com


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Response Number 27
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: August 3, 2005 at 22:37:12 Pacific
Reply:

I installed WinXP home and all was well. The cable modem drivers installed immediately and I was able to get all my up-dates done.
Thanks everyone for your help on this issue!

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Response Number 28
Name: The Count
Date: August 4, 2005 at 13:23:04 Pacific
Reply:

Hi XpUser4Real, Martin, Stuar, Rimfire, DAVEINCAPS, hi everyone

"I installed WinXP home and all was well."
...hmmm, not particularly a answer to DAVEINCAPS's question in #25 in relation/perspective to the OP. :-{

But, hey, at least XpUser4Real seems to be happily up and running again... :-)

Best Regards and Wishes,
The Count, Co-webmaster of mesich.com


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