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Name: sp
Date: July 9, 2002 at 11:41:04 Pacific
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hey there, hope you can help. i had windows 95 and ran an really old dos game that always worked. for some weird reason this time it didnt, pc restarted in dos mode and didnt enter windows anymore, instead trying to start the game at each reset. i checked out autoexec and found the entry and deleted it. still no windows start up but a message if i want to go back to "standard" mode, everytime i write yes the pc reboots again and i get the same message over and over. installed windows 98!!! over it and still the same problem. always the same message. edited autoexec and config a few times, but always the same message. please help, thanks. sp.



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Response Number 1
Name: William Gates
Date: July 9, 2002 at 11:59:14 Pacific
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Hi sp.

Have you tried to run SCANDISK while in DOS mode?


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Response Number 2
Name: buck
Date: July 9, 2002 at 12:03:54 Pacific
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It does sound like a config.sys or autoexec.bat problem. Try renaming them so they aren't loaded during the boot.


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Response Number 3
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: July 9, 2002 at 14:12:41 Pacific
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At the dos prompt in the root directory type more"<"msdos.sys (without the quotes--that the only way I could get it to show the whole message). Although it's a hidden file I think the more command will still read it. Anyway look at the first few lines. It tells what directory to boot from, whether to open with a graphics interface, etc. Post back the first few lines. Since windows doesn't even start properly I'm thinking maybe that file got edited somehow. How an old dos game program could do that I don't know but it's worth a shot.


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Response Number 4
Name: Dane
Date: July 9, 2002 at 17:06:37 Pacific
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I'm not sure but I seem to remember there is a setting in the PIF settings. If you right click on the .exe file of the DOS game and click "Properties" in the list, I seem to remember seeing a settings page of how the dos prog should work in conjunction with Windows. I still use DOS a lot (dosshell has helped me fix a lot of people's problems) and also a couple of ancient DOS games (not quite gorilla.bas level..) and never had a problem with any version of Windows.
Dane


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Response Number 5
Name: Dave357
Date: July 9, 2002 at 17:41:54 Pacific
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I seem to remember that I once had a program (can't remember exactly what it was) that would reboot with it's own Config.sys & Autoexec.bat, renaming the original ones to Config.old & Autoexec.old (or .bak). When exiting the program, it would replace the new files with the original ones.

The problem was that if the program didn't load properly, (as your game didn't) it wouldn't replace the files upon exiting.

Look around in DOS & see if you have the .old files or .bak files. If so, try renaming all four of the files (two existing files & two .old files) & see if you can boot to Windows.

You also should be able to get to Windows by booting with a bootdisk & switching to a C:\Windows prompt, then typing:

win.com (ENTER)

You might find it easier to look around within Windows rather than from DOS.

Hope this helps.

Post back with results.

Dave


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Response Number 6
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: July 9, 2002 at 21:26:56 Pacific
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Now that you mention it I remember some software doing that too. It seems like a lifetime ago, in computer years that is.


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Response Number 7
Name: sp
Date: July 10, 2002 at 11:24:01 Pacific
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hey thanks for all your help, simply deleting
or better said renaming the
config.sys/autoexec.bat file helped. i never
use dos anymore anyway. well now i got win 98
on the machine and trying to reinstall some
programs but internet explorer isnt working.
says something like not enough memory (ram).
does that have anything to do with me
deleting config/autoexec? nothing like this
ever happened in win95 for me. thanks,sp.


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Response Number 8
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: July 10, 2002 at 12:23:19 Pacific
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It shouldn't have anything to do config or autoexec unless they're dos based programs and use the lower 640K of conventional memory. Dos is better than windows at maximizing usage of that area of memory.

98 needs a minimum of 24 meg to install which is more than 95 needed. Or maybe the software you're installing needs more.


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Response Number 9
Name: sp
Date: July 10, 2002 at 12:43:40 Pacific
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thanks for the reply. well i have 128 mb and
i checked out a few programs now and they all
work, just IE causes that problem. is there a
way to manage memory/ram or to make it free
in win 98? sp.


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Response Number 10
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: July 10, 2002 at 13:02:25 Pacific
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You might run msconfig, click advanced and make sure the "limit memory to" line is not on. You may have too many things running in the background or it could be IE just wasn't installed right.

You may want to start a new thread with that particular problem. It seems that memory errors like that are fairly common.


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