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Boot to safe to shutdown screen

Original Message
Name: AMarkis
Date: July 26, 2006 at 23:32:35 Pacific
Subject: Boot to safe to shutdown screen
OS: Windows 98se
CPU/Ram: intel P4 and 512MB
Model/Manufacturer: ASUS
Comment:
Here's my problem, i have Window's 98se, and i've shut it down to protect it from an incoming storm. the storm has passed and everything is fine and dandy. i turn my computer on and it works fine, with only one problem though it goes to the "it is now safe to turn off your computer" screen. my father and i have spent a good day plus tring to figure it out. it passes the AVG bootup scanner. it reaches the Window's 98 screen then boom right into the shut down screen. he's about ready to throw in the towel, and take a hammer to it. the only reason why he hasn't is because i told him i might get some help from here... so please please help me. we've even tried the Spywearblaster, Spybot Search and Destory, and even Hijackthis. But still nothing seems to show the cause. T_T

P.S. AVG shows Partition Table (MBR)Reading error and Boot sector of disk Reading error. However it boots into safe mode with no problems


SpaceShuttle: "Houston! we've gotta problem!"
Houston: "Do Window's three finger salute!"
SpaceShuttle: hits Ctrl+Alt+Del "Thank you."


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Response Number 1
Name: Brim
Date: July 27, 2006 at 05:59:07 Pacific
Subject: Boot to safe to shutdown screen
Reply: (edit)
Does this link help you? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=141898

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Response Number 2
Name: Sabertooth
Date: July 27, 2006 at 06:55:27 Pacific
Subject: Boot to safe to shutdown screen
Reply: (edit)
Can you get to the startup screen?

If you can, run scanreg restore and revert to a previously saved hive.

The internet is a series of tubes!


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Response Number 3
Name: AMarkis
Date: July 27, 2006 at 10:24:25 Pacific
Subject: Boot to safe to shutdown screen
Reply: (edit)
sorry to say Brim, but that site confused me beyound help...
Sabertooth, that's something we never even thought of... we've given it a try, and so far everything seems to be working fine >.>
<.<
we've made it to the login...reintalling the new hardware....
it's good!!!
thanks for your help you two! :)

SpaceShuttle: "Houston! we've gotta problem!"
Houston: "Do Window's three finger salute!"
SpaceShuttle: hits Ctrl+Alt+Del "Thank you."


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Response Number 4
Name: ham30
Date: July 27, 2006 at 10:29:56 Pacific
Subject: Boot to safe to shutdown screen
Reply: (edit)
To try and run scanreg /restore, do the following:

Power up
Tap the F8 key every second or two
When you get the menu, select Command prompt only
Type scanreg /restore
Select the last date before the problem

Do yourself a favor BACKUP!


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Response Number 5
Name: ham30
Date: July 27, 2006 at 10:31:19 Pacific
Subject: Boot to safe to shutdown screen
Reply: (edit)
Too late. :-)
Good work!


Do yourself a favor BACKUP!


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Response Number 6
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: July 27, 2006 at 11:22:11 Pacific
Subject: Boot to safe to shutdown screen
Reply: (edit)
I assume you Shut Down your computer because you don't have it connected to an adequate power surge/spike protection device.
If you really want to protect your computer in that situation, that isn't enough - you must unplug the computer, and unplug any other device that is connected to the computer that is not protected by such a device - anything AC powered, and unplug cable or phone connections.

If this is the computer your specs are for, it is new enough that it probably has an ATX power supply and an ATX mboard. If you have both of those, ATX mboards are always powered in some places, even when Windows is Shut Down, or in Standby or Hibernate modes.
If ACPI is enabled in your bios, you probably don't normally see the "
It's now safe to turn off your computer " message at all.

"AVG shows Partition Table (MBR)Reading error and Boot sector of disk Reading error. "

It sounds like your hard drive, or at least some data on it, has been damaged by a surge or spike. I know of no way spyware or other malware can cause the read problems AVG found.

"However it boots into safe mode with no problems"

Safe mode loads far fewer things than a normal boot does - if the things Safe mode loads are not damaged, the computer will boot Safe mode successfully.


If the info in Brim's reference doesn't help, you are probably going to have to try one or more of several things.

Restoring a previous registry won't help if critical files needed for a normal boot are damaged or missing.

Test your hard drive to determine whether it is just some data that is damaged, or the hard drive itself is damaged.
Go to the web site of the manufacturer of the hard drive on another computer and download a free diagnostic utility, execute the download to create a diagnostic floppy or floppies, boot the problem computer with the bootable floppy, and test your hard drive. There are usually two non-destructive tests - a quick and a longer one - it should pass both. If it has problems only with the data organization on the drive and there is nothing else wrong, that's also a pass because there's nothing physically or logically wrong with the hard drive, but there are problems with your Windows installation.
If it passes the diagnostics, you will then know the problem is caused by damage to data and/or damage to a file or files in your Windows installation.

If it doesn't pass the diagnostics, you will have to connect the problem drive as a slave or a secondary master and salvage what data you want to save off of it onto another hard drive.
.....

If it passes the diagnostics, you need to try repairing your Windows installation so that the existing data on your Windows partition is preserved, rather than installing Windows from scratch.

Try running a 98SE Setup "overtop" your existing Windows installation.
This will not harm your existing Windows installation, but it can only fix things Windows detects as wrong, and/or replace corrupted or missing Windows files that are on your original 98SE CD. If running it doesn't cure enough of your problems and/or the problems are caused by damage to data or files not on the original Windows CD, you will probably have to make a clean install of Windows from scratch.

Insert a Win 98SE cd in a cd drive.
Boot the computer with a 98SE Startup Disk floppy made in Windows - if you don't have one you can make one on another computer with 98SE (Add/Remove Programs, Startup Disk tab), or download the contents of a 98SE Startup Disk from the web.
Allow the Startup disk to load support for the CD drive(s) (which is the default), and after everything has loaded type: setup (enter) at the prompt.
Install to the SAME directory Windows is presently in - usually that's C:\Windows - you MUST install to the same directory in order to preserve all of your existing Windows partition installation data.


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Response Number 7
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: July 27, 2006 at 11:35:26 Pacific
Subject: Boot to safe to shutdown screen
Reply: (edit)
Note that if the hard drive is larger than 64gb (in Windows; ~68.5 gb manufacturer's size) you must update fdisk.exe on the Startup Disk to a newer version BEFORE you run Setup. If the fdisk.exe in an existing Windows 98 or 98SE installation has a date of newer than 4/32/99, it has already been updated. If the file date is 4/23/99 or older, you can get the updated fdisk here: http://download.microsoft.com/download/Win98/Update/8266R/W98/EN-US/263044USA8.EXE
Copy the newer fdisk.exe to the Startup floppy, replacing the fdisk.exe already on it.

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Response Number 8
Name: JimPIM
Date: July 29, 2006 at 06:24:09 Pacific
Subject: Boot to safe to shutdown screen
Reply: (edit)
Hi, Windoze 98SE has a bad habit of not shutting down properly. It is usually caused by a poorly written program that will not shut down first Win wont shut down until the program does. The suggestion to download the patch from MS is the best idea. Always works here. It think it's called SHUTDOWN PATCH. If MS gives you problems some of the dowload sites should have it. Search for Win 98 Shutdown Patch.

Good Luck, Jim


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