AOL Canada 6.0 works great for me..connects consistently at 45kbs and tech. support gave me the answers that worked on a couple of items I needed help with during the last two years....cheers

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some people just can't get it if there is any server that has more bad user feedback i have not seen it by the way i live in the sticks in canada and i connect at 48kbps at minimum and NOT on aolaugh

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I just logged on & like Ashley in order to open the computing.net page I have to minimize AOL & launch IE5. It's been that way for the past week. Also, it frequently disconnects when changing screen names,opening mail or just trying to load a page. This clean install of w98se & Aol 6.0 is only about 2 wks old & it's going right back to the problems I had before the install.

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my ie5 and cable is running slow tonight at 324kbps (the waiting is making me old)

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Ticked, My accessing this site problems also just started about a week or so ago but other than that...I have had so many other problems with 6.0 Check this site out...I found it real helpful and if you scroll down about half way you can click on AOL 6.0 message boards and just take a look at all the people having problems with 6.0...Look under Install issues with win95-98 and under Misc. Problems...A real eye-opener.... http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/RokyRhoads/6help.html

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You are all a bunch of amateurs. AOL 6.0 runs perfect here.

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Oh, ok. You are a professional aol user? Ha, ha! You're a freak! You're probably a goober smoocher too.

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I'm using 5.0 and have trouble with this site and some others.The other day I tried to go to Mr.Bios and I finally closed aol opened Netzero bingo got in first try.Aol must be routing all over the freakin world.Other times like now its goin fine.On this site it seems like if a page hasn't been opened 0 responses.Then it won't open for me.Not all the time just when it's acting up.I think AOL has simply over sold its resources during peak hours especially.

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AOL Facing New Legal Action Over Latest Software By Brian McWilliams Enticed by the allure of new bells and whistles, Jane Donofrio was among the first to download and install AOL version 6 when it was released to the public October 25. But the Atlanta-based child therapist and longtime AOL subscriber never got to try out those new features. "It never connected. I would hear the dialing, the tone, then it would get as far as 'Talking to Network,' and that was it," said Donofrio, who said she spent a nightmarish day trying to undo the damage inflicted on her laptop by the upgrade. "It never dawned on me that AOL would release a product that was so obviously buggy. The tech support guy sent me an e-mail of what to try. I had to reinstall Windows and AOL about five or six times. I was thinking, what happens if I never get my Internet back?" The "Talking to Network" bug is among a number of serious networking glitches in AOL 6 that have plagued some early adopters. While many have upgraded without a hitch, the numerous complaints on AOL's message boards and in Internet newsgroups suggest AOL's latest software effort could be shaping up as a painful replay of events of a year ago. Similar bugs in AOL version 5 wiped out the networking ability of numerous users, and landed the big online service in legal trouble. Thursday, attorneys leading ongoing class-action suits against AOL over version 5 said the bugs in AOL 6 demonstrate that the company hasn't learned its lesson, and the lawyers say they will likely expand their lawsuits to include the new software. "I don't think they learned as a result of the litigation on 5.0. I think they've just gotten a little more arrogant and feel that they can get away with it, and I think 6.0 will probably become part of the suit," said Reed Kathrein, a partner with Milberg Weiss in San Francisco, which is leading four firms in a consolidated class-action on behalf of AOL users. HEAVY-HANDED APPROACH AOL spokesperson Andrew Weinstein Thursday declined to reveal how many complaints the company has received about AOL version 6. "Obviously it has been a tremendously successful launch, and we've had very, very positive user feedback from members who have upgraded to it," said Weinstein. One technical expert who tested the program on behalf of InternetNews.com, however, believes that AOL's efforts to avoid a repeat of the 5.0 fiasco may have backfired and inadvertently created some of the problems encountered in 6.0. Steve Gibson, CEO of Gibson Research Corp., a software development and consulting firm, noted that the new program is a whopping 28-megabyte download. One reason for the bulk is the slew of Windows networking adapters and protocols that the AOL client installs on every PC. "If you install AOL 6, basically you're handing over your whole machine's networking configuration to them, and they're just overwriting your entire network with their cookie-cutter [approach]: 'This is what we're going to do to your computer. Bend over,'" said Gibson. AOL's heavy-handed installation strategy has wreaked havoc in particular for broadband users or those on networks. Vickie Herndon, a medical transcriptionist in Virginia, reported that she wasted hours jiggering with software and hardware after AOL 6.0 wiped out her home-office network, which shares a Cox@Home cable connection to the Internet. "This is my bread and butter. AOL needs to realize that they are not the only thing out there. I would never use them for an Internet connection for work -- I only use them for their content," said Herndon, who is now back on AOL 5.0. Among the numerous networking components AOL 6 loads on every PC is Microsoft's Virtual Private Networking (VPN) adapter and accompanying NDISWAN protocol. Precisely why AOL is installing this technology is not clear, but the decision has created problems for some corporate users like Bill Natola, a network administrator for an Internet start-up in Massachusetts. "They're not doing the new bindings correctly. It actually caused my machine to re-boot itself and blue screen. And if you remove the VPN adapter, the next time you use AOL it will re-install it," said Natola. Besides interfering with some configurations, the extensive networking apparatus forced upon users by AOL 6.0 unnecessarily consumes system resources, according to Marc Minkin, an MIS director for a manufacturing firm in South Dakota who primarily uses AOL to access the Internet while traveling. What's more, says Minkin, the program's silent changes to a system's network bindings can open security holes for users who've enabled file and print sharing. "That's a substantial number of people to put at risk. They're going to run down the road like nothing's wrong, and they're going to find out one day that they've been hacked into or viruses have been uploaded or God knows what as a result of this channel being opened. And I think it's incredibly dangerous for [AOL] to do that," said Minkin. THE KEYWORD IS TROUBLE While AOL insists version 6 is its best release yet, at least one problem, the Talking to Network bug, is common enough to merit a patch. The company has recently created a utility named step5fix.exe, that, according to instructions that accompany it, "should enable you to connect to the AOL service and restore your ability to browse the Web." Although AOL has set up a special keyword, Step5, that takes users directly to a download page for the 28-Kbyte utility, it is not mentioned in the installation notes for AOL 6 or in the list of frequently-asked-questions for the software. Donofrio said AOL support representativess she spoke with had no knowledge of the patch. She learned about it from another AOL user, and the utility enabled her to roll back to AOL version 5 and restore her network connections. Ken Yates, an attorney handling a class-action against AOL on behalf of several Maryland-based Internet service providers, said denials are standard practice for AOL. Yates points out that a year ago the company shrugged off reports that its version 5 software wiped out some users' ability to connect to the Internet using other ISPs. But subsequently in May of this year, AOL agreed to a stipulated order overseen by a federal court in Miami, Florida. That order called for AOL to post information about a conflict between AOL 5.0 and the Windows' Dial-Up Networking software on older Windows 95 systems, and to provide a link to an upgraded DUN at Microsoft's site. Yates noted, however, that AOL has continued to distribute CD-ROMs containing AOL 5 without warning Windows 95a users that it can disrupt their non-AOL network access. "Their allegation is that this is industry practice -- the rules of engagement. Our concern is that if ISPs are replaced, not only will it hurt our revenues today, but what's going to happen when AOL takes over Time-Warner and gets access to their cable? If my user can't turn on his computer and get to me, promises of open access become rather moot," said Yates. As with last year's edition, the release of AOL version 6 occurred despite warnings by some beta testers. One tester, writing on the private beta message boards on October 25 bemoaned, "I really can't believe they released this today ... I really think it's premature, there are still way too many problems with this." Another beta tester, noting complaints the following day from users on the service's public message boards, wrote to fellow testers, "Hummm, did we not tell WinBeta this would happen???" A DELIBERATE STRATEGY? Kathrein of Milberg Weiss said that AOL's networking bugs may not be intentional, but they are the indirect result of a monopolistic strategy, details of which he is confident will be revealed during the upcoming discovery phase of the consumer class action. "It's our firm belief that this is all part of the intentional strategy to grab the desktop. You know, carpet-bomb the world with CDs as soon as possible. You can't wait until it's perfect because you'll lose market share, even though testing shows there are still significant problems. And you get it out there in a way that's designed to discourage people from trying to use an alternative ISP," said Kathrein. But Gibson, who operates a popular online security screening service called Shields Up, said the problems caused by AOL version 6 seem to be largely the result of the company insulating its unsophisticated users from technical decisions. "I can't see anything that seems in any way sneaky or tricky. [AOL] is massively successful, and one of the things that feeds that success is that it pretty much works. The flip side is being something of an overlord and re-installing stuff, but that's not their typical customer." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Hey Mike sucks at least I can make AOL 6.0 run like it should. Which does not include goober sucking. Just common sense.Which it seems you do not have.

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All AOl haters come on now we are not hatin on you. so please, if you preferr gob stopping or how ever you refered to it be please on your own time. AOl may or may not be for you. if you take all the computers out there and compare them you will see that they are not all the same. the next person may have same exact setup as you (the only thing diffrent) is they have one more or one less file then you. so teck smeck who's at fault my computer does this or that, the file that you are eathor missing or have is what your problem is.... no defence ...

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as stated above AOL sucks end of story

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If AOL sucks, I wish I could suck just half as bad and make the kind of money they make. You don't have an installed user base in the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, without experiencing trouble in a small percentage of such.

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