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Name: Phil (by 2harts4ever1)
Howdy all,
I have been hoping someone with more expertise than myself would post this but since no one else has I will give it a shot.
I have good news for Win95 users.
There has been a lot of chatter lately on several forums about how Lavasoft excluded Win95 users from their new Ad-Aware SE Free version.
Problem solved!
Someone on the Lavasoft SE free forum found a work-around solution and it is posted here at this link (Scroll down to Kokusek's post for his work-a-round solution): Work-a-round Solution
In a nutshell, the way I got it to work was I had someone download and install the new SE v1.04 program on his XP system. He then copied the 'SE Program'' folder and sent it to me. I then pasted his folder into my Programs folder and I was off to the races.
As of tonight I have run about 15 scans with no problems whatsoever. I have also successfully retrieved the programs first update and also downloaded and installed one of its plug-ins (vx2 cleaner.
So far all systems are 'go'. The way I understand it is when a newer version replaces Ad-Aware SE v1.04 I will have to utilize the same install method for the new version too.
Hopefully by then Lavasoft will include we 95ers under their protection umbrella again. Hope this information helps someone else the way it did me.
Check it out and good luck!
Regards,
Phil
" .... nuff said! Keep Smiling because I'm Smiling too!"
Thx for info. I read it with interest despite being a W98SE user.
It seems to me that SE v1.04 only "thinks" it can't run on W95 but if you don't let it find out it's on W95 it runs fine.
I didn't realise there were no registry entries so that was also interesting info.
I suppose there could still be some hang-up that comes to light later but it sure sounds promising.
If you ever wish to uninstall it you will presumably have to delete the folder (just like we did in the old days before installation involving the registry and entries in CP/Add-Remove).
Derek.W
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Hi Derek.W,
Yes, I was glad to get the work-a-round too because I do like running the Ad-Aware programs. Plus, it is probably just a matter of time before Lavasoft yanks the rug out from under Ad-Aware 6.0 (Free).
Like I said in my first post everything is working great as of right now. One nice thing about the new SE (Free) program is it is super fast compared to the 6.0 program.
But then, as you know this aging machine I am 'pecking away at', isn't known for its speed ...lol I am on dialup so any increase in speed for anything is always appreciated.
If I run into any problems with this new work-a-round I will repost.
Thanks for taking the time to share your comments. They are always appreciated.
Well, it is off to bed for me, 4:30 a.m. comes aweful quick when you're 62 ...lol
Regards,
Phil
" .... nuff said! Keep Smiling because I'm Smiling too!"
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Hi Derek.W,
I didn't think I would be posting back this soon ...lol I got home from work and discovered Lavasoft had released their 'weekly' new build for Ad-Aware SE. It went from v1.04 to v1.05.
Well, anyway to make a long story short, I just followed the advice on this link and everything went just like clockwork: Ad-Aware SE v1.05 Build Post: I now have SE v1.05 up and running on my machine thanks to the posts by hewee and mitch on the above link.
I just finished my first scan and everything seems to be just honkey-dorey.
Just replacing the Ad-Aware.exe file seems to be doing the trick on my Win95a machine plus it allows me to keep my previous SE settings too.
And, best of all, it saves me from going through the whole routine of having someone with a newer Windows system download, install, copy and then send me the whole new program for me to copy into my Programs folder.
So, for now my old system is still managing to keep its 'head above water' and continues to run Ad-Aware SE.
Have a good night.
Regards,
Phil
" .... nuff said! Keep Smiling because I'm Smiling too!"
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All good stuff, thx for info. Will be handy for the 95 brigade.
Gotta a strong feeling it was you that I once predicted would be posting info on here one of these days (rather than just asking for help).
If so, glad to see my prediction was correct.
CU
Derek.W
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Yeah - nice work Phil : )
Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do
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Hi jboy, Derek.W and all,
'95isalive' is a great site and a 'gold mine' of information for all Win95 users. That is the main reason I have been using it as my home page for well over a year.
Its originator, Steve Easton, along with both of you and a few other various Forum regulars, are the 'teachers' I refer too in my previous post.
Words can never express how grateful myself, and I am sure I can speak for other 'newbies', are that people like yourselves and Steve Easton take the time to share the expertise needed to keep these aging machines 'ticking'.
I will just say thanks and let it go at that.
Have a great weekend!Regards,
Phil
" .... nuff said! Keep Smiling because I'm Smiling too!"
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Aw - you're too kind. We all learn things here @computing.net
Haven't been to the the 95isalive site in some time, but the phrase has always stuck in my head. In a few years (maybe sooner?) no doubt there will be similar sites for 98 - but without the catchy name ; )
It's nice to have references like that available - it seems once an OS is more than a few years old, all sorts of mythology gets attached to it. You've done your bit in dispelling the rumour that Ad-aware won't run in 95 - which is great news for anyone with 95 online.
Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do
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Ditto, too kind. I learned stacks from this site too, although most of my original teachers no longer visit this place.
You never stop learning either.....
Derek.W
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Hi jboy and Derek.W,
Derek said: ----- "most of my original teachers no longer visit this place." ----
I say: ----- "probably because my posts chased them away" ---- ... lol
Have a great weekend and thanks again.
Regards,
Phil
" .... nuff said! Keep Smiling because I'm Smiling too!"
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Nah, I reckon they all retired. Maybe they got old (I'm working on that and winning).
This (I think) was my first post, a question for W95:
Dig that crazy four digit number, and see Doofus from Oz who was one that definitely jacked it in.
I changed from Prof when another one arrived, then my real name Derek, then Derek.W when another Derek arrived.
It's like a drug with me. I get withdrawal symptoms if I'm away too long LOL. You have been warned!
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Hi Derek.W,
Thanks for the walk down memory lane...lol
Just for the record, I think your FIRST post as 'Prof' was more involved and computer advanced than my LAST one ...lol
I appreciate the warning that these forums could be addicting and I will consider myself warned ...lol
Good night and regards,
Phil
" .... nuff said! Keep Smiling because I'm Smiling too!"
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This does not work for me on Win95 OSR2. I get the following error:
Error Starting Program
The AD-AWARE.exe file is
linked to missing export WININET.DLL:FindNextUrlCacheEntryExA.Any ideas?
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Glitchman,
Sorry to hear you are having problems. It worked like a charm for myself and several others Win95ers.
Could you please tell me how you attempted to install it on your Win95 OSR2 machine? Take it step by step and I will see if you might be leaving something out.
Start with the name of the System the program was installed on before being sent to you.
Regards,
Phil
" .... nuff said! Keep Smiling because I'm Smiling too!"
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I assume you "googled" your way into this post so we don't know what operating system you are actually using. Could you let us know that too.
Derek.W
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Yeah - tell us more. WININET.DLL would appear to be installed or updated with IE, since my version seems to match the browser's version (5.50, on 95A, anyways) - also running in a 'B' machine with IE4.xx.
Which Ad-aware, and what was your installation method?
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Glitchman
.... ooops, I've gone bonkers. Sorry, you clearly stated your OS within your post.
Derek.W
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Thanks for all the replies so far. I copied the Ad-Aware SE Personal directory via a CD-RW from an XP box over to my Win 95 OSR2. Perhaps it's an IE issue, since I intentionally will never allow any version higher than 3.03 to infect my PC. (It's a long story, so I won't get into why I detest IE and its .dlls with a passion here.)
I checked my WININET.DLL (dated 10/15/1996, version 4.70.1215) with a hex editor and cannot find any strings pertaining to FindNextUrlCacheEntryExA. The closest string that matches is FindNextUrlCacheEntryA. Would it be safe to copy a newer version of WININET.DLL just to the Ad-Aware SE Personal directory? I do NOT want my existing WININET.DLL in the System directory to be overwritten. I'm extremely picky about any dlls that have anything to do with IE.
If that does not work, I'm afraid I will have to label Ad-Aware SE as "IE-ware" and no longer recommend it to others.
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You can try that - who knows, it might work - but very often these DLLs are interdependant.
Had to check - I'm running various combinations of Ad-aware and 95/98 - on the 'B' machine it's the older version 6.181, with IE4.0 (DLL version 4.72)
You may do as you choose, of course, but it seems unecessarily limiting. No huge fan of M$ bloatware, but I don't mind using IE on occasion, and, if it's a requirement for other software that I do want to use - so be it.
I have found that by not browsing overly much with IE, or using OE or MSN, pretty much the worst things found by Ad-aware are tracking cookies.
Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do
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Hi Glitchman, Derek.W and jboy,
Glitchman: You are in very capable hands with the likes of jboy and Derek.W.
However, have you thought about going to the Lavasoft Ad-Aware SE (Free) help forum (Ad-Aware SE Forum) and ask your question there too.
Although Win95 is not officially supported by Lavasoft with their new SE v1.05 program there are a few Win95ers on that forum who might be able to solve your problem.
I wouldn't give up on it yet. I personally can't help you anymore but I am sure someone, if not jboy and Derek.W, will be able to find the fix.
Derek.W and jboy: Thanks for joining in. Your experience and expertise are always appreciated.
Good luck!
Regards,
Phil
" .... nuff said! Keep Smiling because I'm Smiling too!"
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Hi all
Yeah - I would say if the problem exists solely because the IE version is less than 4.0... that's not going to be a problem for many folks.
Quite a few applications 'require' a minimum IE version - - yes, yes, Bill Gates is the 'Great Satan' & all that, but if you're using M$ Windows, you may have to make concessions at times.
Luddites and computers don't mix ; )
Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do
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Sorry, been AWOL.
Can't add anything but jboy's words of wisdom in #22 about a possible hangup due to an early IE version sound highly likely to me.
Derek.W
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I'll certainly take a look at their forums. Thanks for the link. No blue e icon will ever see the light of day on my PC, and that will never change in my lifetime. I always find superior alternatives to IE-ware.
In a worst-case scenario, I can continue with the older versions of Ad-Aware, but I don't know if I'll be able to update the definitions. My spyware scans have always come up 100% clean, mainly because I keep a very tight control over what my OS is doing. I frequently check the win.ini, system.ini, autoexec.bat, config.sys, Run keys in the registry, Startup folder, set cookies.txt to Read-only, and so on.
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"... but I don't know if I'll be able to update the definitions."
Depends on how old, but no, I don't think support is too likely unless you have SE v1.xx - which no doubt itself will be superseded (eventually).
One wonders what is the point. Ah,well - your machine, your psyche, etc - carry on.
Those people that think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do
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I registered on their forums, but I don't yet have the authority to post. In the meantime, does anyone have a link to WININET.DLL version 4.72 for Windows 95 (or maybe 98)? I checked dll-files.com and can only find version 6. Thanks again in advance.
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I'm not getting any responses on Lavasoft's forums either. I may just have to try my idea with the dll anyway, but I still cannot find version 4.72 of WININET.DLL. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Sorry, I have only a much later version of this file. It looks to me as if it goes with the version of IE you are using rather than the operating system. If you put IE in using a CD (server disk or otherwise) it might be worth you searching there in the .cab files.
Derek.W
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After obtaining the dll I wanted, Ad-Aware SE was complaining about other dlls, which all seem to be IE-related. I'll just stick with prior versions of Ad-Aware that don't require IE. Thanks anyway.
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Nice to know! At this time i just added a link to this topic on my page, but as soon as i have time to look into it, it will try to offer the easiest way i can devise (short of an installer) to allow users of the good old 95 to use Ad-Aware SE (as long as it remains possible). For now, users of version 6.0.181 can continue using it, it still accept the new updates (but for how long?). I'm glad there are other people out there looking after the interest of older computer users!
Cheers!
Lightspeed.http://oldfiles.org.uk/lightspeed/main.html
http://oldfiles.org.uk/lightspeed/lightspeed95.html
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