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Name: ludedude25
Date: February 24, 2006 at 14:02:42 Pacific
OS: 95 or 98
CPU/Ram: 120/32
Product: toshiba
Comment:

I got a old toshiba laptop I was going to fix up for a friend but not sure which os would be better for some casual internet surfing and email. Mabey some messenger chat typing letters & such.

The laptop is a pentium 120MHz, 32mb of ram and 850mb hard drive with cd rom & 56k pcmcia modem. I also have a floppy which fits into the same slot as cd rom.

Upgrades really aren't a option, neither is linux on this one.

I was kinda leaning to windows 95 because of the ram & hard drive size, but not sure how well it would run on today's internet.

But then windows 98 is a bit newer tho i'm not sure how well it would work with only 32mb of ram.

Believe it or not I have ran firefox on windows 95 before just tinkerin around, but it was a p2 300/64mb on my dsl.

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Response Number 1
Name: ham30
Date: February 24, 2006 at 14:37:38 Pacific
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Win95 will do fine. Win98 would probably be ok for email and surfing, but really should have a little more RAM.

Sorry, I do not check for private messages


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Response Number 2
Name: jam
Date: February 24, 2006 at 14:40:45 Pacific
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In the post below your's, I suggested a program called 98Lite. It might work well in your case too. The minimum requirements for Win98 are pretty low...486/66MHz CPU, 16MB RAM (24MB suggested). IMO, 32MB is still too low, but 98Lite should lighten the load enough to make it run decently. If you're not happy with it, you can always reformat.

Get the free preview & use the 'Sleek' setup

http://www.litepc.com/98lite.html


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Response Number 3
Name: name
Date: February 24, 2006 at 18:59:46 Pacific
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I can't imagine that Winehoed98 would be any fun at all, and I wasn't even aware that you could successfully run '98 on a 486

'95 would be slow enough on that thing.


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Response Number 4
Name: jboy
Date: February 24, 2006 at 19:09:48 Pacific
Reply:

This guy claims to

As noted, minimum specs for 98 are a (decent) 486 with enough RAM - and a 386 for 95 - however, minimum should not be confused with optimum (go with 95 if the '98 lite' doesn't pan out)

98 runs 'ok' on my Duron 1.2 ; )

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Response Number 5
Name: T-R-A
Date: February 24, 2006 at 19:40:47 Pacific
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You can run Win98 on just about any 386 or above machine (/nm switch on install), but you'd actually like to see it boot up once before you die...

For a 120MHz lappy/32MB/850MB-HDD, I'd go with Win95C and drop Firefox on it for a browser (says it needs Win98 or better but it still works well on Win95C), Eudora Light 3.06 for e-mail, and AbiWord for a WP...


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Response Number 6
Name: ludedude25
Date: February 24, 2006 at 20:10:02 Pacific
Reply:

Actually i'd think 95 would be fairly quick on this laptop.

98 runs pretty good on p133's with 64mb ram and 2 gig hard drives but this ol toshiba takes some strange ram i've not seen before and it's probably not cheap for 64mb. Also I already tried a 1.5 gig hd in it but the dang thing went bad so I had to put back in the 850.


My second computer I had was only a pentium 75mhz 16mb of ram and a 850mb hd. It ran 95 quite well back in the day.

I know the internet isn't going to be that fast on dialup, and if 95 will surf as good as a 98 machine i'd stick with 95.

98 lite looks interesting but the price is more than the laptop cost lol. I didn't think $15 was that bad concidering the battery will still hold about a 45min charge too.

ASUS A7V8X
Athlon XP 2700+ @ 2.17ghz
1GB DDR 2700
nVidia 128mb FX 5200
WD 80gb SE
NEC ND-3500AG DVD R/RW


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Response Number 7
Name: wizard-fred
Date: February 25, 2006 at 00:43:46 Pacific
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I have a fujitsu with essentially the same specs. P120, 32MB Ram, 2.1GB Hard Drive, Swapable CD/Floppy. I use 98Lite and browse the internet with a PCMCIA Wireless LAN Card. Have also PCMCIA 28.8 modem and ethernet

I have the following software installed Word 2000, Excel 2000, Access 2000, Visual Basic 6 Pro, Internet Explorer 5, Mozilla, Firefox, and DOS apps - Lotus 123 r2.4, WordPerfect 5.1, PB 3.2, FoxPlus 2.1. All the installs are minimal without the frills. Under 98Lite they all work fine and as expected not as fast as may be desired but not that slow. This is for field use. I use it weekly. The only thing that makes it slow is high graphics web pages especially JAVA.

I think if your friend is not too picky it should be fine.


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: February 25, 2006 at 07:07:41 Pacific
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98Lite is FREE! Read closely what it says about the preview:

"This FREE Preview is a no-nags, unlimited preview for what 98lite Professional can do to dramatically improve performance and stability under Windows. The feature set of this preview is restricted compared to the Professional version, but you do get the most important functions that speed up your system with the following features:

Configure your desktop in three different ways that suit you.
SLEEK - a blisteringly fast incarnation of the Windows 95 Explorer
CHUBBY - a faster Windows98 Explorer without the web integration
OVERWEIGHT - the fully featured Windows98 Explorer complete with web-view and active desktop

SLEEK and CHUBBY dis-integrate your web browser from your desktop while allowing you to keep Internet Explorer for web browsing."


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Response Number 9
Name: ludedude25
Date: February 25, 2006 at 08:52:43 Pacific
Reply:

Ah I missed the "unlimited preview" part.

I may have to give er a try.

ASUS A7V8X
Athlon XP 2700+ @ 2.17ghz
1GB DDR 2700
nVidia 128mb FX 5200
WD 80gb SE
NEC ND-3500AG DVD R/RW


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Response Number 10
Name: jam
Date: February 25, 2006 at 17:05:28 Pacific
Reply:

Here's how I do it...

1st of all, download 98Lite & copy it to a floppy. Make sure you have a Win98 boot floppy, Win98 CD, & Win95 CD, then...

- format the HDD
- boot off the Win98 boot floppy & choose "with CD-ROM support"
- at the A: prompt, remove the boot floppy & replace with the 98Lite floppy. Then type 98lite45 & hit ENTER. The installation will begin...just follow the onscreen instructions from there.

If you want a Win95 type installation with no Explorer integration, select "SLEEK" (option 1).


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Response Number 11
Name: ludedude25
Date: February 25, 2006 at 18:38:30 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for the info. The laptop currently has 98 on it, it came with the hard drive. It is very slow but dang near full 100mb left.

LOL cracks me up being that old with that small of a hard drive has office 2000 premium, Napster old version, Some photo software, Frontpage, you name it the add/remove programs is full. Funny thing is nothing will uninstall. Must be something corrupt.

ASUS A7V8X
Athlon XP 2700+ @ 2.17ghz
1GB DDR 2700
nVidia 128mb FX 5200
WD 80gb SE
NEC ND-3500AG DVD R/RW


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Response Number 12
Name: jam
Date: February 26, 2006 at 06:52:41 Pacific
Reply:

"It is very slow but dang near full 100mb left"

That's why it's very slow...& it's gonna stay that way unless you free up some space

A complete 98Lite Sleek install uses less than 300MB (before adding drivers & software)


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Response Number 13
Name: jam
Date: February 26, 2006 at 10:00:40 Pacific
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"A complete 98Lite Sleek install uses less than 300MB (before adding drivers & software)"

And it just daned on me that if you delete the 98Lite setup folder, you'd free up another 125MB or so...


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Response Number 14
Name: Souta (by souta95)
Date: February 26, 2006 at 12:10:43 Pacific
Reply:

I have quite a bit of experience on performance when it comes to 95 and 98. If it were me, I would use 95 (OSR 2.x) (becasuse it uses less hard disk space) and Mozilla Firefox for browsing, I have run Firefox on a Cyrix PR 166 with 32MB RAM. For instant messaging I know AIM (4.8) runs well on a Pentium 100 with 24Mb RAM. When using Firefox, there arn't many limitations to browsing when it comes to 95, as long as you install all the extras (java, flash, shockwave), but even then they arn't required.
Just my 2 cents.


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Response Number 15
Name: ludedude25
Date: February 26, 2006 at 16:13:05 Pacific
Reply:

They would like a Yahoo messenger capable client as that's what most of mine and their friends use.

Can you run ym in 95 ?


Update:
I just aquired a Compaq LTE ELITE 4/75CX with 32mb ram which works but has a bad hard drive.

I may try to find a 2 gig for the toshiba and put the 850mb in the compaq. Then I could try both 95 & 98.

I have a 14 disk floppy install for 98 :D


ASUS A7V8X
Athlon XP 2700+ @ 2.17ghz
1GB DDR 2700
nVidia 128mb FX 5200
WD 80gb SE
NEC ND-3500AG DVD R/RW


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Response Number 16
Name: bigfoot2184
Date: February 27, 2006 at 14:06:13 Pacific
Reply:

Yes Yahoo MEssenger 7.0 WILL run on Windows 95. Now Yahoo Messenger 6.0 Will NOT. Yahoo Messenger 5.5 and older will. Kinda weird...


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Response Number 17
Name: ludedude25
Date: February 28, 2006 at 17:06:55 Pacific
Reply:

LOL Ymgr 7 probably use's more resources then windows 95! Ha ha.

I'm still waitin on a 2 gig laptop hd to see if i win it then I'm gonna swap 850mb to the compaq and put 2 gig in toshiba.

ASUS A7V8X
Athlon XP 2700+ @ 2.17ghz
1GB DDR 2700
nVidia 128mb FX 5200
WD 80gb SE
NEC ND-3500AG DVD R/RW


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