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Well browsing the web today I found an
article that claims MS has owned up to the
fact the patch was never meant for 98-ME &
by uninstalling the patch your system
becomes vulnerable to the effects the patch
was designed to fix..
[Quote]On behalf of the Microsoft Security Response Center (MSRC), the following message was just posted to the 95, 98, and ME general discussion newsgroups concerning Security Bulletin MS05-002:Microsoft has received reports about issues with KB891711 on Windows 98, Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. At this point, we have been able to confirm these reports and are currently working on a resolution.
Please note that by uninstalling the current update, the machine will return to a vulnerable state. At this point, we are currently not aware of customer's being exploited by way of the vulnerability fixed in MS05-002 on Windows 98, Windows 98 SE and Windows ME. If you need additional assistance regarding this update, please contact +1 (866) PCSAFETY. When calling, please indicate that you are having issues with a security update.[/Quote]
Source:
http://bink.nu/Article3716.bink
That's just swell...I had a problem with this machine and just unchecked it in msconfig. Did it to 4 others with no problems. This place is full of folks screaming about 891711 and it's my humble opinion that it's just another day in the life.
I'd like to thank MSRC for saying Doh.
Skip
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As the article (http://bink.nu/Article3716.bink) does not mention; I wonder what the issues are?
And, Skip, where in msconfig did you deselect the fix?
Regards,
Bryan
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Bryan, this Update shows up in the Startup tab in MSConfig.
HTH
Dave
There are two theories to arguing with women. Neither one works.
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Yep Bryan, it's the way this update works. It appears in startup tab and runs KB89711.exe on bootup.
It seems this update either works fine or can cause all manner of problems. Thinking aloud (for those who only have a problem on "bootup") it might work with either a batch file delay or even unticking it in msconfig and putting a shortcut to the .exe in:
C:\windows\all users\start menu\programs\startupThe only reason I suggest this path is that I've found it starts things quite late in the boot and if other things like virus checkers and ZA get in first you might just get away with it. No good for those whose machines crash around in other ways obviously.
Derek.W
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KB891711.exe not on mine.
I guess it is time I go looking to see what MS is putting out for updates again.I must say that the http://www.microsoft.com/security/bulletins/200501_windows.mspx article does not say much about the update itself.
Thanks,
Bryan
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Bryan
This (via your link) says a bit more if you expand out under General Information:
MS05-02Derek.W
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Bryan,
I had typical problems as outlined by others and just went to msconfig first (like I always do) and it was under the start up tab. I thought it was strange but there it was like I'd just installed a HP product or subscribed to AOL.
From what I read, some have had no problem, some untick the entry in msconfig, some do a workaround, and others just uninstall it.
Five machines and one problem seems strange to me...an MS Critical Update that shows up in msconfig seems strange to me...my 98se partition is otherwise completely updated and protected.
I suppose the thing to do now is walk off scratching my head and play some online poker.
Skip
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Skip
Yes, it sure is unusal. MS obviously itend that this should run at bootup and remain running in the background. Works fine on my W98SE.
It got done to death here:
W95/98 164531Gotta link to a workaround (out of sheer idle curiousity, so don't break a leg finding it)?
Derek.W
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Derek,
Naw, I had no problem stumbling thru that thread...that's the kind of good stuff that brings this sort of thing to light.
Unfortunately, I read it after my trip to msconfig; not before.
It's all a very interesting read that can solve a bunch of new problems that occur in a 9x machine. I'm thinkin' that if only one out of ten users can tie the problem into the update, then 9 out of ten have a problem they can't explain...like it appeared out of the blue.
Poor job here from Microsoft.
Skip
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164570 led to the other links and between them there is much information.
I like the MS workaround; having IE6 and with OE6 using plain text format.
Thanks,
Bryan
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Bryan
Did you save link to that workaround
(however crazy it is)?My link in that old post has now died.
Derek.W
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Same article only expanded
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms05-002.mspx#ECUAAMicrosoft Security Bulletin MS05-002>General Information> Vulnerability Details >Workarounds for Cursor and Icon Format Handling Vulnerability - CAN-2004-1049:
Bryan
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I downloaded this revised windows update today.april 12 2005...no problem )yet).
"Why was this security bulletin updated on April 12, 2005?
After the release of the MS05-002 security bulletin, Microsoft became aware of an issue affecting customers deploying the Windows 98, 98SE and ME security update. In most cases, the issue caused machines to unexpectedly restart.
Microsoft has investigated this issue and has made available revised security updates for these platforms. These revised security updates are available from Windows Update and the Microsoft Download Center. Customers who have not yet applied the original version of these updates should visit Windows Update to receive the revised updates.
Customers who have already applied the original Windows 98, 98SE and ME security update are advised to install the current revision of the update from Windows Update.
What updates does this release replace?
This security update replaces a prior security bulletin."Mike
Windows 98 SE and Current
512 RAM
NortonInterneSecurity2005
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