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20 drivers don't work MS-6147 ati

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Name: wdegroot
Date: July 30, 2007 at 08:58:43 Pacific
OS: win 98 se
CPU/Ram: 500/256
Product: microstar
Comment:

I have been trying to get a microstar ms-6147 my to accept an ati rage pro driver. over 20 drivers did not work.
I managed to get the right audio driver to partially work and the wrong audeo driver to work perfectly.
microstar tried but it is an old slot 1 board and thay didn't have the drivers available.
I am still running w 98 se.



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Response Number 1
Name: Walter Mitty
Date: July 30, 2007 at 09:03:55 Pacific
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Are you sure the motherboard supports the AGP Card ? There are differing AGP standards:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agp


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Response Number 2
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: July 30, 2007 at 10:33:09 Pacific
Reply:

First go to add/remove programs and remove any previous installation attempts. The display adapter in device manager should show as a generic adapter, probably 'standard PCI graphics adapter (VGA)'. If it doesn't show that check my #3 here:

http://computing.net/windows95/wwwb...

If necessary update DirectX to at least 8.1.

The ATI drivers are here:

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/...

under 'Rage Pro'. It says those are ME drivers but I think that means it includes ME drivers.

If those don't work I've got rage pro turbo 2X (which is what you've got) drivers from an old emachine that should work. I could email those.


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Response Number 3
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: July 30, 2007 at 10:40:21 Pacific
Reply:

Uh, just to make sure, you are using the on-board video adapter, right?

Also you mention a problem with the audio drivers as well. MSI has those drivers--the 1373 chipset. Are you using those?


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Response Number 4
Name: wdegroot
Date: July 30, 2007 at 16:01:21 Pacific
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the video reports as ati rage pro
It is integrated.
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the sb driver from another source works perfectly . the right driver has a small error.
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. microstar pointed me at the rage max driver on the amd.ati site.
when i delete the existing rage fury pro driver I get UNKNOWN.,

another stupid thing occurs, when I fdisk/format and install "cleanly"
all is ok thru setup but when the windows welcome page appears the system may lock and after rebooting the text and all other small text including labels on icons ad tabs are missing or screwed up.
I did this 4 times changing floppy boot disk, 98 cd, hard drive, and memory dimms.
I cleasred cmos.
SO it's necssary to install on another pc and move the hd. I will try installing clean with the pci card( matrox or other card) installed and then switch to the integrated video.

when i install a card either pci or isa it is ok. used a matrox millenium pci and a genoa isa. after the screwed up screen this fixed the display problems

there is NO AGP slot on this board but the integrated video is supposedly agp.

this is a nasty problem.


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Response Number 5
Name: jam
Date: July 30, 2007 at 17:03:40 Pacific
Reply:

Clearing CMOS was unnecessary...hopefully you're familiar enough with BIOS settings to be able to reset them as necessary. Default settings are never 100% correct.

If you're formatting correctly but are still having problems after reinstalling the OS, you *may* have some sort of hardware problem.

MS-6147 motherboard specs:

http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?...

As for your drivers:

Intel® 82443BX (440BX) chipset drivers:

http://www.intel.com/support/chipse...

ATI® 3D RAGE PRO/RAGE PRO TURBO 2x drivers:

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/...

Creative® ES1373 sound drivers:

http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?...

NOTE: the chipset drivers should be installed first!


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Response Number 6
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: July 30, 2007 at 17:46:34 Pacific
Reply:

If you do the 98 install using the MSI board, remove any add-on cards first in case they're causing the problem.

Since you formatted it's moot now but to delete the existing video driver you'd go through add/remove programs. If it doesn't show there then manually change it as I mentioned above. Neither method should give an UNKNOWN response. So I don't know what that's all about.

Make sure you update DirectX before installing the video drivers.

If at all possible, install 98 on the PC on which it's to be used.


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Response Number 7
Name: wdegroot
Date: July 30, 2007 at 20:41:35 Pacific
Reply:

i 1 agree w98 asks many questions when a drive is moved. but settles down and runs after being on a different mb.

It's much better to set it up initially on the same mb. I will do that next ( when my energy returns) but since 3 ? times a clean install gave me the scrambled titles.
I will install with a different , the pci video card. and see what happens when i enable the integrated video.

what I suspect is that the video chip is not being detected properly by the 98 install cd. - who knows why.

many of the drivers say directx 7 is required, I d/l a copy and will install it first. unless directx 8.1 is superior and will work.
windows ME did the same thing and my w2k install failed because the cd was bad.

let me try a few things and get back and report.


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Response Number 8
Name: Walter Mitty
Date: July 30, 2007 at 22:12:24 Pacific
Reply:

Sounds like you have a hardware problem somewhere, not a W98 install problem par-se.


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Response Number 9
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: July 30, 2007 at 22:26:01 Pacific
Reply:

Yeah, the video may be bad on that board anyway. Using a card may be the way to go.

I think the drivers on the ATI site said they needed at least DirectX 8.1 but you might want to check that. 98 runs good with DirectX 9 versions.

I don't think 98 has native support for that chip so it'd install one of the generic drivers. Then you'd have to install the specific drivers linked to above.



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Response Number 10
Name: jam
Date: July 30, 2007 at 23:00:30 Pacific
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Actually, Win98 does have native support for the integrated ATI Rage Pro. I just installed Win98 on an older Compaq DeskPro EN today & although I updated the video drivers after the fact, the windows drivers allowed 256k, 16-bit, 24-bit, 32-bit color & several resolution choices


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Response Number 11
Name: wdegroot
Date: August 3, 2007 at 07:06:16 Pacific
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been a couple days I WILL get back when i hook up the mb and see if i can make it work
I will NOT leve everybody wondering if i was sucessful.


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