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I've been having some networking problems lately with this HP computer. I have four computers in our house, and all except this one can connect to the internet. Two of the working computers are wireless (11b), and one is hardwired. I don't have any problems out of them; they can connect to each other and to the outside world, all using static IP addresses 192.168.0.100,102, and 104. The HP is set up in exactly the same way, but using .101 as the fourth part of its IP.
I know this seems like it should be in the networking forum, bet here's where it ties into Win 98: the HP only has one NIC installed, but it shows up twice as the exact same thing when right-clicking Network Neighborhood and clicking "Properties." I'm wondering if the fact that it's in there twice might somehow be creating conflicts (like the router thinks that there are two 192.168.0.101's trying to connect, or something). I tried removing one of them, but both of them were removed, and when I reinstalled the adapter after rebooting, there were two again.
It kinda connects, kinda doesn't; trying to play Age of Empires over LAN, the HP can see that the game exists on one of the working computers, but it cannot join the game. All the other computers connect just fine. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I have tried everything I know and am going crazy.

try removing all netcards & inf files for same cards in safe mode. does board have an onboard net card by chance besides the pci card version
david

I don't know exactly what you mean. Do you mean I should remove the physical network card itself, then boot to safe mode and remove its associated .inf files? If so, then what?
And no, no onboard NIC's or modems. It doesn't even have onboard audio. And I checked the IRQ just because it was the only thing I could think of that I hadn't done; the PCI NIC had no IRQ conflicts.

I've tried that. When it reinstalled, the two things were just created again -- two device listings, two tcp/ip listings. Removing any of the four items will remove all four, and reinstalling creates them again.

Is the NIC card in a master PCI slot?
Have you tried the NIC card in another machine to verify it's working?
Have you tried another NIC card in the troubled machine? Different slot?

Replacing the card with a different one in the same PCI slot worked. Kinda. It now only shows up as one network card and one TCP/IP entry in the Network Properties dialog box, which is what I was shooting for here. However, there are still a couple of problems, but they belong in the Networking forums. Thanks to everyone who helped here!

nfreeman 2
NIC cards can be real buggers to deal with at times, sometimes flat out agrivating. Cards that work fine in one machine will never work in another, and visa versa. So with this in mind a few ideas to ponder. Network cards must be able to be used in many operating systems so the setup on each of them is somewhat unique, to that particular card. Always hit the read me first.
Try this, Control Panel, System, Device Manager, you should have two listings for your twice seen NIC. Pick one of them, and go to Propertys, then tab to driver.
See what drivers are installed for the NIC card, and that it did indeed load some drivers. Then go to Resources tab, and see that there are Interrup settings, and I/O settings. Note all this on a sheet of paper. See if any Conflicts are occuring in the lower box on that page.
Cancel out of all of that, and then select the second NIC, do the same thing. One of them is a ghost and no doubt is keeping your machine from accessing the network properly.
Should you find one of the cards has no IRQ or I/O settings its the ghost and you should delete it. Hopefully it will not reinstall on reboot. If it does this is another problem.
Does your machine have a modem in it per chance. There are times Plug n Pray NIC will see modems as a NIC's, expecially multi-function modems (FAXing, VoIP, etc).
Several alternate suggestions are to physically remove the modem card.
Confirm that its truely a PCI NIC, not an ISA card (small connector end vs. large connector end). ISA cards could have 16 bit drivers and sometimes jumper setups on the card itself. The 16 bit driver problems abound with the virtual network driver system in W9x.
While its out, note all numbers, model data and Manufacturer info. Go to the web and see if there is an updated driver for that particular card and your op system. Resinsert the card in a different slot.
To install new drivers will require you to uninstall the old ones first. Updating a driver sometimes does not do it. See if the driver that W98 selected for this card is the same as you found on the net.
Note if you can find the cards data on the net, make sure that it does NOT require a pre-install DOS setup before its use in windows. For that you will have to run a supplied program that sets the parameters of the card. Read the Read me on the card disk. A note here if the card had no conflicts on its old settings set the DOS settings to match them.
Remove and reseat the NIC in a different socket.
There is always the abandon the card for that machine and purchase a new one ($20) and read how the setup needs to be performed. Many no name NIC cards are hard to find, always a favorite try for me is to set the card up as a NE2000 Compatable card from the Win98 drivers.
Let us know how you made out. Again network cards are probably the most varied setup devices in the industry, sometimes you have to outwit them.
Cheers
"Suppose you were an idiot ... And suppose you were a member of Congress... But I repeat myself." --Mark Twain

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