RM, 98SE (4.10.2222) I just d-loaded the file, restarted in MSDOS mode, ran it with the more option, (got 3MB of space back) restarted windows, and my "self-expanding" Favorites menu/folder has been deleted from my Start menu. (Near the bottom, between Programs and Shut Down.) WTF!?

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RM, Found the problem. I have registry keys that allow me to hide folders etc. (NOT Tweakui) through menu's. The HIDE Favorites somehow got checked (Enabled) by running your delindex.bat. No offence, but I think for now I'll just go back to my little purge.bat that I wrote; purge.bat @echo off cls echo. echo. echo. echo This batch file must run from the RAW DOS COMMAND PROMPT ONLY! echo. echo NOT from a DOS WINDOW while WINDOWS IS RUNNING! echo. echo. echo It will clear unnecessary files from your Temp, History, Cookies, Recent, echo Temporary Internet Files, and Applog sub-directories. echo. echo. echo Press Ctrl+C to terminate this process. . . OR, pause lh c:\windows\SMARTDRV 4096 16 >nul @echo off cls echo. echo. echo A Clear All Files and Directories echo B Clear Temporary Internet Files Only echo C Clear History Folder Only echo D Clear Temporary Folder Only echo E Clear Applog Folder Only choice /c:abcde Choose an Option if errorlevel 5 goto applog-only if errorlevel 4 goto temp-only if errorlevel 3 goto history-only if errorlevel 2 goto temp-internet if errorlevel 1 goto all-files :all-files c:\windows\command\deltree/y c:\windows\temp c:\windows\command\deltree/y c:\windows\recent c:\windows\command\deltree/y c:\windows\tempor~1 c:\windows\command\deltree/y c:\windows\locals~1\tempor~1 c:\windows\command\deltree/y c:\windows\cookies c:\windows\command\deltree/y c:\windows\history c:\windows\command\deltree/y c:\windows\applog if EXIST d:\win386.swp del d:\win386.swp if EXIST e:\win386.swp del e:\win386.swp if EXIST c:\perform.log del c:\perform.log if EXIST c:\*.syd del c:\*.syd if EXIST c:\*.b~k del c:\*.b~k if EXIST c:\*.--- del c:\*.--- if EXIST c:\windows\*.syd del c:\windows\*.syd if EXIST c:\windows\*.b~k del c:\windows\*.b~k if EXIST c:\windows\*.--- del c:\windows\*.--- if EXIST c:\windows\*.pss del c:\windows\*.pss goto exit :applog-only c:\windows\command\deltree/y c:\windows\applog goto exit :temp-only c:\windows\command\deltree/y c:\windows\temp goto exit :history-only c:\windows\command\deltree/y c:\windows\history goto exit :temp-internet c:\windows\command\deltree/y c:\windows\tempor~1 c:\windows\command\deltree/y c:\windows\locals~1\tempor~1 c:\windows\command\deltree/y c:\windows\cookies goto exit :exit exit

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You're the only one that ever reported that kind of problem. I don't know how a registry key is affected by Delindex.bat unless a registry key points to a file that was deleted. But that still wouldn't change the key itself, would it? But your batch file (really nice!) deletes many of the same files and folders as delindex, so I don't know how delindex can wind up hiding your favorites and purge.bat does not. If you (or anyone else) can help me understand this, I sure would appreciate it. BTW: By default in WinME "C:\Windows\Command" is part of the path statement. If that's also true with Win98 (is it?), you can use Deltree without preceding it with “c:\windows\command”. I have some suggestions for purge.bat. Please post back if you’re interested.

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NEWPURGE.BAT ================================================== @echo off cls echo. echo This batch file must run from the RAW DOS COMMAND PROMPT echo ONLY, and NOT from a DOS WINDOW while WINDOWS IS RUNNING! echo. echo It will clear unnecessary files from your Temp, History, Cookies, echo Recent, Temporary Internet Files, and Applog sub-directories. echo. echo If Windows is Running enter Q to Q(uit); otherwise enter C to C(ontinue) choice /C:cq /n /t:q,99 “Enter Q or C: ” if errorlevel==2 goto EXIT lh c:\windows\SMARTDRV 4096 16 >nul :: cls echo. echo MENU: goto MENU2 :MENU cls echo Chose another item from the MENU: :MENU2 echo. echo A = Clear All Files and Directories echo B = Clear Temporary Internet Files Only echo C = Clear History Folder Only echo D = Clear Temporary Folder Only echo E = Clear Applog Folder Only echo Q = Quit echo. choice /c:abcdeq /n /t:q,99 “Choose an Option: ” :: only the first 8 characters of a label are recognized if errorlevel 6 goto EXIT if errorlevel 5 goto APPLOG if errorlevel 4 goto TEMP if errorlevel 3 goto HISTORY if errorlevel 2 goto TIF :: :ALL :: the “\” after “c:\window\temp” is required, because :: windows does not recreate TEMP folders deltree/y c:\windows\temp\ deltree/y c:\windows\recent deltree/y c:\windows\tempor~1 deltree/y c:\windows\locals~1\tempor~1 deltree/y c:\windows\cookies deltree/y c:\windows\history deltree/y c:\windows\applog :: Why would you delete the Swap File? :: if EXIST d:\win386.swp del d:\win386.swp :: if EXIST e:\win386.swp del e:\win386.swp if EXIST c:\perform.log del c:\perform.log if EXIST c:\*.syd del c:\*.syd if EXIST c:\*.b~k del c:\*.b~k if EXIST c:\*.--- del c:\*.--- if EXIST c:\windows\*.syd del c:\windows\*.syd :: what are these next 3 files? if EXIST c:\windows\*.b~k del c:\windows\*.b~k if EXIST c:\windows\*.--- del c:\windows\*.--- if EXIST c:\windows\*.pss del c:\windows\*.pss goto EXIT :: :APPLOG deltree/y c:\windows\applog goto MENU :: :TEMP :: the “\” after “c:\window\temp” is required, because :: windows does not recreate TEMP folders deltree/y c:\windows\temp\ goto MENU :: :HISTORY deltree/y c:\windows\history goto MENU :: :TIF deltree/y c:\windows\tempor~1 deltree/y c:\windows\locals~1\tempor~1 deltree/y c:\windows\cookies goto MENU :: :EXIT :: an exit command here is only required if you’re running in a DOS Window ========== Comments?

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Here's a "cheat" to see if it is running from a DOS window. if not "%windir%"=="" goto {error label} where {error label} indicates that Windows is still running and to restart to DOS Note: Windows DOES rebuild the %temp% folder if it does not exist I would add a Path statement that includes \windows\command This will ensure that the file works even when the Path statement is screwed up(not the default) You're right. You shouldn't be deleting the swapfile. On windows 98, this just forces windows to recreate it. AND, if the disk is freshly defragged, the recreated file will be farther inside the disk (ie: slower). As well, if the user has created a semipermanent file (moved to the front or not), this again will move the swap farther into the drive. If you are deleting the files in \applog, you are negating their purpose, which is to allow defrag to Optimize the loading of programs. If you decide you want to delete them, ALSO stop TaskMon from running. You have lumped cookies in with TIF for some reason. I frequently delete the TIF folders and on an INfrequent basis, delete the \Cookies folder. The "pointer" cookies in \TIF are populated based on the index.dat file in \cookies. And, the index.dat file, if deleted, is recreated based on the contents of the \Cookies directory. Deleting the \TIF folder should not affect anything, but deleting \Cookies has the obvious effect of forcing the reentry of web site data.

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RM, It must have been a fluke/glitch. I just did the exact moves as the first time, and ran it again today. No problems. The reg keys I mentioned have only been in place for about 6 : 8 days. Hardly proven themselves yet in that short amount of time. (I highly trust the source, but I too "tinker", so mileage can vary.) I've looked through your file and I could not see anything that would suggest or trigger such a thing. Sorry for the false alarm. I probably shouldn't have posted so quickly, but I thought: "If there ~is~ something (amiss), he should know about it ASAP." C:\Windows\Command is indeed part of the 98/98SE path statement, ".... you can use Deltree without preceding it with “c:\windows\command”." I was brought up to ALWAYS show the complete path to any program from within a program. (Using bat to fire an exe.) It's automatic, I just type it in. (Really showing my age here.) Just quickly glanced through yours & Whitphil's replies. Gotta run now but I've copied them in to a text file that I can read later. Thanx

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Thanks for the info. A note on including the full path: I agree, mostly. I like the batch file to show anyone who's interested where to look for a file or folder even if it is in the path. However, I draw the line at DOS commands, like del, xcopy, deltree, move, choice... you get the idea. A reason to delete the cookies folder is to get rid of index.dat which keeps growing and is never resized. Since deleting the index.dat file itself renders the cookies useless, you might as well delete the cookies. I like the idea of 'if not "%windir%"=="" goto {error label}'. I have WinMe and had that line in Delindex and it worked fine. Then I tried it on my brother's Win98 computer and the program wouldn't work at all. If I remember correctly, if you type in set at a DOS prompt (after having rebooted into DOS) you still get values for winbootdir and windir. Since I wanted the program to work in Win98 as well as WinME, I took that line out. Please help me out if I'm missing something here. Since Dan's PURGE.BAT already used a choice command, I couldn't see what he'd resort to "Press Ctrl+C to terminate this process" but that's just a minor quibble. In WinME, it seems that TEMP folders are not recreated. It's possible that they are, but only when needed, as opposed to being recreated when the computer is (re)started. Again, I wanted Delindex to function with both OSs. Isn't DOS fun?

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WinMe must also treat cookies diffently. On 98, I can delete the \TIF folder, delete \Cookies\Index.dat and on a reboot, the \cookies\index.dat file is rebuilt and seems to be based on the content of \cookies, since all of the cookies work, and the \TIF folders are rebuilt with the pointer cookies, which are based on the content of \cookies\index.dat. No idea why the IF statement didn't work on the 98 box. Even it the variable doesn't exist, the bat file should still work since the value of the variable will still be null.

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That's my point: if the variable is NOT blank it goes to {error message}. In WinME, there are NO windir/winbootdir listing when the StartUp disk is used. In Win98, I'm pretty sure there are windir and/or winbootdir settings even when you restart in DOS mode. If anyone is willing, please reboot to DOS in Win98, type set, and tell me if there are any listings for windir and/or winbootdir. Thanks!

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Win98FE Restart to DOS SET shows no Windir but does have WinBootDir defined The following bat file if not "%windir%"=="" goto err echo Null goto done :err echo Something :done Echos "Null" and the IF statement shows the interpretation (if Echo is ON) of If not ""=="" goto err which is what it should with a variable that doesn't exist (it's value is null) In a DOS window the bat file echos "Something" and the if statement shows the interpretation of If not "C:\Windows"=="" goto err which is correct. Windir=C:\Windows When you say "the program wouldn't work at all", does the bat file indicate that it thinks Windows is running, or does it fail?

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First off, let me say the only reason I pasted in my purge.bat was to show RM what I was running, very similar to his (though not as thorough/complex). The premise of the file was me & mine. It was never meant to be used by anyone other than myself, on my machine. It's "birth" came about as a result of me finding out about the MS structure of hiding things. That sort of bothered me. "Since Dan's PURGE.BAT already used a choice command, I couldn't see what he'd resort to "Press Ctrl+C to terminate this process" but that's just a minor quibble." It has only recently been expanded to include the choices. The original was bare bones, no choices or warnings. Run it, BANG, it's done. I added the warning header and the pause, well, just cause you're suppozta. Another "member" of this forum must have seen it in some posting, and asked me how hard it would be to incorporate the choice of only certain folders/files. So I added the choice parameter and associated commands. (I still use my first one, the one that goes BANG!) Re; APPLOG, I don't use taskmon, and I don't re-order the files during defrag. (I use ME defrag.) Re; swapfile, Everyone has their own idea and perspective of this subject. I do what I do with mine because it works for me, on my machine, with the software I run. I delete my swap file just to clean up between bootings. It's never used (98% of the time). Settings; Drive D: (Sec. Mas.), Min: 0, Max: No Maximum System.ini; [386Enh], ConservativeSwapfileUsage=1 Thus, I don't care where on the drive platters it resides. I don't need fast access to something I don't use. I know enough to reset my swapfile parameters and reboot if I'm going to need it. If it turns out that this decision is permanent, I'll run Speedisk and put it to the front of the drive. Re; COOKIES in with TIF, I put it in mine simply because it's part of the internet realm. (I don't visit many sites which require me to use a password, so re-entering one or two after a purge is no big deal.) If that changed, I'd save the cookies I wanted as RM does. ":: only the first 8 characters of a label are recognized" I know, but it's more descriptive to continue the label. As long as those first eight are recognized without conflict to another label.

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One Win98 user had his Windows Media Player files deleted by DELINDEX.BAT. (His c:\progra~1\window~2 was his Windows Media Player folder and not WindowsUpdate.) DELINDEX was corrected: the new version is dated 3/22/02. Thanks to sekirt for the heads-up. THESE WERE THE PROBLEMATICAL LINES (FOR Win98): if exist c:\progra~1\window~2\wuhistv3.log move /y c:\progra~1\window~2\wuhistv3.log c:\>nul deltree /y c:\progra~1\window~2\>nul if exist c:\wuhistv3.log move /y c:\wuhistv3.log c:\progra~1\window~2\>nul THEY WERE CHANGED TO: if not exist c:\progra~1\window~2\wuhistv3.log goto NOHISLOG move /y c:\progra~1\window~2\wuhistv3.log c:\>nul if errorlevel 0 if not errorlevel 1 deltree /y c:\progra~1\window~2\>nul move /y c:\wuhistv3.log c:\progra~1\window~2\>nul :NOHISLOG Download the corrected (3/22) version here. ================================================= FYI: Long file names do not work in DOS, even if enclosed in "".

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Sorry about the missing hyperlink. Copying a post with a hyperlink obviously does not include that hyperlink when it’s pasted. Click here for the corrected version.

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Info aboutthe NEW 6/21/02 Delindex.bat is here (ME Forum) and here (9x Forum). Info about the NEW 6/21/02 Delta.bat is here (ME Forum) and here (9x Forum).

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