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I am running build 7100 and keep seeing stuff about the RTM 7600 and other versions. Out of curiosity is there a version I am supposed to have? The update site seems to recognize what I have. Do I need to change it?
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Windows 7 Build 7100 is the Release candidate (RC). The RC will expire on June 1, 2010. Starting on March 1, 2010, your PC will begin shutting down every two hours. Windows 7 RTM 7600 is the final production build that you can buy beginning in October 2009.
i_Xp/VistaUser
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Oh ok I understood the RC end of things but had never had anything to do with a new OS before so when I see, seems like ten or more versions being discussed, I began to wander if I was using the wrong version. I also understand what the RTM is that's why I got worried. I knew I had time before I had to buy or loose what I had and was assuming the RTM being released was that. Several seem to have it already.
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Just to clear things up a bit, RTM (Release/Released To Manufacturing) is defined as a version of software that is ready to send, or has been sent, to the CD/DVD manufacturer to press discs (and packed in a fancy plastic box for sale to the public that have money to spend :-))
>Source (plus mine in parenthesis)
i_Xp/VistaUser
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By the way, the official final release of Windows 7 has the build string 6.1.7600.16384.win7_rtm.090710-1945 which means that it was compiled on 10th July, 2009.
i_Xp/VistaUser
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Yup,
7600 is the final build. However, the string for the official - English - release (32-bit & 64-bit) is:
7600.16385.090713-1255_x86fre_client_en-us_Retail_Ultimate-GRMCULFRER_EN_DVD
7600.16385.090713-1255_x64fre_client_en-us_Retail_Ultimate-GRMCULXFRER_EN_DVD
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Thank you both. I understood it to mean released to retail ie: sent to whomever puts out the pretty little frisbees. I had no clue about the version numbers and the such. I didn't follow nearly that deep as at the moment I can not afford it.
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windows 7 build 7600 is the latest one which is available from the internet and free! i am using it. The OEM one. it's free. you can download it from the internet and install it! it's good!
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..it's free. you can download it from the internet ...
I wannna have that too unless it's from torrent site. Inb this case forget it. Otherwise will ya plz givmme the link?
i_Xp/VistaUser
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allenmao,
The download part hasn't always presented much of a challenge to most freeloaders. Activation or valid license authentication on the other hand isn't nearly as easy ... lol
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Windows 7 RTM is available for download at Microsoft Technet for PAID members only.
I believe the window of opportunity to download RC and an install key has passed.
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$349 and I can dowload an operating system or I can pay a months rent and buy a few groceries. I like windows 7 but it won't keep the rain off my head or feed a child for a few hours. I can go back XP 64 when the time comes. Yeah I know once it is in stores it will be cheaper and I can preorder even cheaper than that and I already would have if I could afford it.
Likely
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Considering Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade was offered for pre-order @ $49 & most folks spend more than that on their cellphone, cable TV or broadband service every month ... and this is not even accounting for discretionary spending on things like alcoholic/non-alcoholic beverages or cigarettes etc. It's going to be tough to sell the speculative doom & gloom predicament that'll come with purchasing Windows 7.
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Sabertooth
The price you quote is for an upgrade version. Many of us may not have qualifying products.
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I could be wrong but I don't believe preinstalled Windows XP & Vista on OEM computers such as HP, Sony, Dell, etcetra, qualifies for the upgrade version. Such computers do not provide you with a CD or DVD to prove ownership of a previous Windows full installation CD.
i_Xp/VistaUser
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XpUser
The above is my understanding also. That is why many are not eligible for the $49 upgrade.
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OEM or not, you do not need to have a physical disc present to accomplish the switch from XP to Windows 7, AFAIK. What you end up doing isn't an in-place upgrade but a clean install, which is what should be desired anyway.
"In order to install the upgrade version of Windows 7, you must have a qualifying Windows operating system installed and activated. You cannot install an upgrade version of Windows 7 on a blank hard drive. The installation procedure does not ask you to insert a Windows disc in the drive for verification, [insofar as] the actual qualifying operating system must be installed." ... emphasis mine.
Clean install with Win7 Upgrade media: How does that work exactly?
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Sabertooth
I do understand the process and assume XpUser does too. That said, you still need a qualifying product in order to use the update. If you know something that is different than what we have stated here to be the process then tell up about it.
OEM pre-installations have never been qualifying products in my experience.
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Othehill Oh yes I do too.
Saber - Could you try it on a machine running preinstalled Windows and post back with step by step instruction? Don't have a preinstalled machine? Just go out and buy an OEM like Sony PB HP Acer etc and try it.
i_Xp/VistaUser
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OTH,
Fair enough that you (and XpUser) both have a good grasp of what to expect with the XP-to-Windows 7 upgrade. However, I think you guys are either reading too much into the Windows 7 Upgrade disclosure or conflating the (clean install) upgrade restrictions for Windows Vista with Windows 7's - not the same, fortunately.
I really don't know how else to get this across any clearer without sounding pedantic. Again, any OEM machine pre-installed with a legit copy of Windows XP & of course an activated license does in fact pass the qualifying product criteria. I believe this clears the OEM apprehension & while I maintain that I'm not aware of any explicit restriction prohibiting the use of the Windows 7 Upgrade SKU to perform a clean install of Windows 7 on an OEM (XP) machine, I would agree that M$ is not aggressively pushing that option for quite understandable reasons. But they did state that "you qualify for Windows 7 upgrade versions if you are running genuine Windows Vista, Windows XP, or Windows 2000 on your PC."
Now, if your bone of contention revolves around the predicament likely to be faced by an end-user without a legit copy of Windows XP (OEM or Retail.) I think it's fairly safe to assume that hardly is anyone seriously going to be upgrading their Win9x/2K
relicmachine to Windows 7 for production purposes anyway, so this would be a moot assumption. And if it's about folks planning on installing Windows 7 on a blank HDD, such machines would not qualify & the end-user would need to obtain a full version of their preferred Windows 7 flavor or first install XP, activate it & then install Windows 7.
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Sabertooth
If your statement concerning what constitutes a qualifying product is correct that would be great.
I have not read that myself and have been going on the past practices of MS in this matter.
The way Microsoft handles these things I would guess we need to wait and see. Remember the Vista upgrade snafu where it was thought you had to have WinXP installed in order to install an upgrade version of Vista?
I can't say I have ever used an OEM machine with Windows pre-installed on a regular basis. So I don't even know if this type of installation requires the Genuine Advantage sniff test by MS. I would think that is what would constitute a qualifying product.
I am off to research this topic a little more.
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Well, I found some information but not directly from MS. Seems as though Sabertooth is correct, if the sources I found are also correct. If an OEM pre-installed version is authentic then the upgrade can be used on that machine. The first link below covers that. Below the link is an excerpt from that blog.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=1184
“From a licensing point of view, your installed copy of Windows is irrelevant. What matters is the sticker on the side of the PC. If you have a Certificate of Authenticity for Windows XP or Windows Vista on that computer (or a certificate of authenticity from a retail copy of Windows that has been assigned to that machine), you qualify for an upgrade license to any edition of Windows 7”.
The second link is bad news for me. I asked around before buying Vista Ultimate/w free upgrade coupon from newegg. The general thought was that I should be able to actually run both Vista and Windows 7 on different computers. According to the link below that may not work. Seems like the upgrade won’t install unless an activated version of Vista is installed on the computer. Bummer.
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Regardless of qualifications $49 is more than I can afford to throw away for what basically is just a toy. I already have other operatinhg systems I own have paid for that I can go back to.
I am out of work and trying to go to school. I do not have cable or satallite, no cell phone. My home phone is the cheapest plan offered. My son pays for our internet service at the moment otherwise this would be gone as well. I do not drink and gave up smoking in favor of feeding the kids. I have a good argument for not being able to afford it. I know it must seem dificult for those that work in the technical feild making at least high 5 figure incomes to understand not being able to afford something cheaper than a new corvette. I'll catch up when I am done with school. For now though if we don't need to eat it, cook with it, or cover our butts with it, it is not being purhased. No matter how much we may like it.
Likely
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likelystory
I am sorry to here you are going through hard times. Hang in there. Hopefully better times are ahead.
That said, I do think MSoft is trying to hold the line on pricing. Linux has made some inroads as well a Mac has too. I am not a shill for MS by any means. I am just stating my observations.
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