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A couple of months have passed now and I was wondering what everones opinion of win 7 is so far? Granted its still in beta but what do you think are its pros and cons? Will you spend the $ to make it your next primary os?
on the road again!!

Win7 is cool but I will not spend $ just to make it my next primary os. Why? there is no real advantage to it as long as my current Windows (XP & Vista) are working just fine.
i_Xp/VistaUser

Other than the goofy licensing issues it seems OK.
Not sure I have seen speed improvement. I get the feeling it is a bit more stable.
Unless it was more supported by technical programs then I'd say no. Various apps still don't work with vista. To top it off, one would have to buy the top tier versions to get XP to work.
"Best Practices", Event viewer, host file, perfmon, antivirus, anti-spyware, Live CD's, backups, are in my top 10

I like it and will buy it when available.
It boots faster then Vista, I like the new taskbar, it found all my hardware and installed the drivers, without me looking for them.
My bluetooth device, Canon camera, Motorola phone and anything else I plugged in worked without any hassle.
It told me video driver needed attention, but worked anyway, I was able to get W7 beta drivers from Nvidia.
All my applications work.
And as a bonus the EPG for my tv tuner works in W7 for Australia, while Vista tells me no data available.

supertrucker,
It's YOUR turn to tell us what you think. Don't have it? No big deal. Wait until May 5th to download your copy of Win7 RC1 from THIS site. You have one full year (or until June 1, 2010) to try it before buy it. Just make sure your machine meets the following minimum system requirements for Win7 RC1:
• 1 GHz processor (32- or 64-bit)
• 1 GB of RAM (32-bit); 2 GB of RAM (64-bit)
• 16 GB of available disk space (32-bit); 20 GB of avaiable disk space (64-bit)
• DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driverGood luck.
i_Xp/VistaUser

I have been using it now since the first Beta and I like it, but it's not a must have by any means if you are running Vista or even XP for that matter.
Pros. It's a bit faster and more stable then Vista. The taskbar is mainly the biggest visual change over Vista, but other then that it's pretty much the same look as Vista. The Navigation on some things are easier to get to then in Vista, but other then that it's still generally the same navigational wise as Vista.
Cons. Not ideal for Netbooks or old pc's. Anyone running a Netbook or a pc more then 4 years old should stay with XP. Although Windows 7 is improved over Vista, XP still takes up less system resources then Windows 7 does.
Bottom line is Windows 7 is an intermediate update to the Windows OS. Nothing revolutionary to it, just more improved over the previous generation.
Iron Sharpens Iron.

Sorry folks my bberrys browser was goofy. My opinion? Win 7 so far seems solid [give ms s chance they'll mess it up]. I have a couple comps running 2kpro and I think ill up grade them, xp is a toss up for upgrade and I wouldn't bother uping vista. I like the stability and speed seems good. Probably the best reason to upgrade would be dx10 + support.
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I also like it that 7 can run decent on systems with fewer resources
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400

So far, so good!
Windows 7 is a lean, mean Vista makeover that's arguably more accommodating to the designated user.

I will buy a new PC with Win 7 pre-installed and make it my main OS.
Win 7 boots quicker and is more stable, smoother, and third-party program friendlier.
Regards
SuatCINI

I've noticed that quite a few people are running Win 7 as their only OS. Maybe they have several computers, IDK, but hopefully they realize that the beta will self-destruct in August. What I didn't know was that "Starting on July 1, 2009, your PC will begin shutting down every two hours. Windows will notify you two weeks before the bi-hourly shutdowns start."
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/wi...
I haven't read up on RC1...will it need to be a clean install or can it be used to overwrite the beta?

I haven't read up on RC1...will it need to be a clean install or can it be used to overwrite the beta?
THIS is what M$ wants everybody to do. For me I would try what Gregg Keizer wrote in FAQ How to get Win7 under the topic Can I upgrade from the Windows 7 beta? on page 3 HERE.
Personally speaking, I have no plan to download RC1 tomorrow because the server may crash and there is no guarantee that the gigantic size of the downloaded file will be good. I reckon I will be better off waiting a week. or so. The cutoff date isn't due until July.
i_Xp/VistaUser

I will wait a bit also to let the servers settle down. Anyone using a beta as a primary os needs to have their head examined or is into s/m lol!
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400

I went from Beta version (7077) to RC (7100) via the upgrade route without any hitch, but as always YMMV.
To avoid interruption, M$ recommends users rebuild "test" machines with the Pre-RTM builds of Windows 7 before the August 1, 2009 (Beta) &, June 1, 2010 (RC) software expiration. Unfortunately, many will ignore that disclaimer just because & complain & blame M$ after the fact. I'm not too worried about the RC timebomb simply because RTM should be out sometime in October or thereabout & I can "upgrade" to the final version when it does.
As far as the Beta-to-RTM & RC-to-RTM, clean vs upgrade requirement. There is a "pre-release check" bypass for people that really need to do an upgrade rather than a full install. Regardless, they still suggest people backup as a precaution but then again, many will not. To clarify, M$ has indicated that the pre-release check routine will be required when transitioning from the RC milestone to RTM milestone. So, anyone contemplating an upgrade will need to implement the "pre-release check" bypass in order to get around the full install requirement ... see below.
http://blogs.msdn.com/e7/archive/20...

Thanks all. As usual for c/n the input is handy.
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400

Wherever you go to download Win7 RC ... first read the following news posted at ComputerWorld today ...
Leaked copies of Win7 RC contain Trojan
... then decide for yourself to ignore it as FUD-based or to take it very seriously. The choice is yours alone to make.
i_Xp/VistaUser

Hi guys. Just stopped by to take a look around and saw this thread. I have been using 7 for a couple months now and installed fresh RC1 last week before it was released. Good system. Very stable and no bsod's. Faster than XP and I can't judge for Vista as I never liked it so didn't use it.
Finds almost all drivers and runs all my old software. Only problem I have found is the permissions. You have to turn off uac and some old XP folders won't give access such as documents and setting should you want to access them. You have to take permissision of them.
I am not returning to the forum but just thought I would post this info.

"Finds almost all drivers and runs all my old software. Only problem I have found is the permissions. You have to turn off uac and some old XP folders won't give access such as documents and setting should you want to access them. You have to take permissision of them."
The above indeed validates the statement that you "skipped" Vista ... LOL! If you didn't sidestep Vista, you would have more appreciation for Windows 7's non-intrusiveness as far as UAC is concerned.
IMHO, if I didn't turn it off in Vista despite its aggressiveness & I'm certainly not going to now that it's even been toned down in Windows 7.

UAC in Windows 7 will not go away. However, M$ promised the UAC will nag users 29% less often.
http://www.computerworld.com/action...
i_Xp/VistaUser

I guess my next question would be why is ms taking a different "beta" route with win7 compared to previous os releases? Unlimited dls with lenghty test periods? Don't get me wrong I like it but why now? Vista burn? Trying to intice the business class? Really looking for constructive input? Or maybe ms is turning a new leaf? Lol. Thoughts? Maybe this post should have been in the lounge. Rum and coke anyone? Lol
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400

I was running Vista on a laptop and the time it took to find and connect to wireless networks drove me crazy. Windows 7 is much quicker in that regard. On a desktop the speed differences between Vista and Win 7 seem less apparent. I have installed Win 7 64 bit RC on my laptop and will see if there is enough difference to warrant buying it. I notice the RC version is the "Ultimate" edition. To get all those features on the commercial release probably will cost a lot more than the standard version. I probably won't replace Vista on my Desktop computer as it is very stable and runs pretty quickly with 8 gigs memory and SP1.

hi
just d/l the 7100 ultimate ver of windows today, capped myself but what ever, 2.4 gig d/l
It installed a treat, & updated itself,
I loaded the usual freeware avg, latest nvidia driver ran a few bench marks ..... roughly same as results as vista.
I see paints been vistarised, the Start orb twinkles ooh.Likes : the desktop, clean uncluttered and finally can see what the aero bit is about, useful for multiple open web pages
& no gadget bar unless asked.
Windefender easy to disable.
UAC slider bar set to low, 'just inform me if a prog...' etc,
I havnt seen it since.
Drivers, only supports two of the 4 mobo nic's no probs
as long as one works. Sound card used vista driver ok.
ext Usb drive found much faster than xp or Vista,
On install Win7 found and consigned install of vista to .old,
(no loss, i shouldve read the install guide,)
Lasts till june 2010 with suitable warning.Dislikes;nothing really!!
few oddities
IE8 which wouldnt connect to computing.net yet FF did
& crappy icon for network connection on task bar im sure that will change.I will probably buy this as preinstalled OS on next pc.
Tried vista sp2 recently , did nothing obvious, hence tried win7 , quite refreshing to see.
Anyone whose got the any other version should ditch it and get this one its not often M$ gives free reign on one of their products this polished and working FREE for at least a year.
A Hotmail, live etc account required for activation code, nothing easier.total install time about 20 mins + one cup of Tea on intel E6850 intel mobo 680i 2 gig ram 9800 graphics. pc
to coin a phrase 'sweet'.

Running Win 7 7100 as an upgrade from Vista Ultimate.
No problems with drivers other than I had yellow ! for my card reader. Clicked on update driver and all is OK.
I don't notice any difference in load time as compared to Vista Ultimate. However, shut down is extremely fast and I would say no more than 15 seconds.
All programs are running without flaw including AVG Internet Security 8.5 30 day trial.
Only glitch I have seen so far is that my system seemed to hang upon start up once. No big deal as a restart seemed to go as per normal.
I will purchase this and perform a clean install upon release.
...if it ain't broke, then you ain't having fun...

Upgraded from 7100 to 7127 (x64) RTM-Branch yesterday without hassles & no problems so far. And besides whatever M$ might have tweaked under-the-hood, I don't seem to notice any changes on the surface, but at this stage, that should not come as a surprise.

just downloaded it today at work. installed it 2 hours ago on a athlon Xp 2000, with 1g of ram and a 256 mb fx5200. Its running pretty good. I won't pay for an OS, so I'll run it until it expires, then I'll go back to some linux distro. I'm dual booting mint now. XP drivers worked for my on board sound.
larry

i run win 7 on a double boot old sony laptop, and on my triple boot old desktop,as well as on my acer m550 (x64) all versions run great, have one or two small issues on my old desktop like cant get TV out from my ati radeon 9550 128mb vid card and sound drivers sometimes fail to load.
i have to say that i am very happy with 7 and will be using it as my primary OS (as i do now) it beats vista hands down, Xp will be terminated very soon and will leave you with only a few choices but not as many as you think.
vista, win7, sun solaris and linux variants.my opinion is that you will dump vista as soon as you try 7, due to the ease of use and system improvements,
that most of you cant be bothered with linux distro's,
and most of you probably never even tried solaris..so where are you going to go? win7, and why?? cos its easy, clean and works well.
It may be the best thing to hit mainstream computing since windows 98, or Xp if you dont remember 98.
It is suitable not only for the average home user, gamer or tech head but i believe it will also be a great improvement in the corporate environment, so i say download it while you can, buy it when its released and forget about XP and Vista.
Times change so do OS's.i hate computers!
but cant help myself....

Lol most of the regulars here have or do run multipul linux distros but spend more time helping others with their win/ms problems. Solaris is kool. Tried my first linux back in ooohh 95 or 96? Dos was fun! Command lines anyone? Lol. Oh ya win 3.1. Beos? Not a lot of time on macs tho. ;(
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400

oops after reading my post i realise it comes off a bit hard...appologies to all.
i hate computers!
but cant help myself....

Np. I just wish I had more time to play with more os's and software. Being otr limits that now. Jam,jabuck,othehill,theoldman.sabertooth,xpuser and oh so many others have been here for years trying to help others. Sometimes we disagree sometimes we vent and sometimes a post winds up being much more than it started as. All well and good as long as we fulfill our task to help other and learn in the process.
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400

i was in the past quite an avid user of this site, and i also helped quite a few people solve thier issues, but then things were after a while just repeats of the same issues and so i drifted off, now there is another toy to play with i sauntered back to see what was happening here..
i hate computers!
but cant help myself....

I also dropped off for awhile. Hm c/n or job? Lol. Now I use my bberry a couple times a week to browse posts and respond to some when I can. Internet not allowed in truck lol. Never get work done. Didn't mean to seem like I was harping on you. Sorry.
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400

The RC1 looks and feels more organized than the the BETAs interface.
I (would be) totally loving W7 except for the fact that my LCD's backlight took a dump.
So here I am evaluating W7 on my Vista Laptop.
Have done a dual boot config of (existing XP on my P4 desktop) to include W7 RC1, totally sweet, works incredibly fast and has ALL drivers for my existing (3 year old hardware)
I had installed W7 Beta on my laptop, but decided to go back to the original configuration. Vista (pre-installed)
Must say, W7 is the shizzle, give it a try...I'm sure you'll like it.
Get the RC download and don't pay until you're sure you like it. (around June of 2010)
Rich Gu

i have windows 7 dual booted on my laptop with windows 7. i haven't seen a big diffrence in boot up time if any. but one thing i noticed is that once you logon, all the programs that you set to start up with windows starts up in 2 seconds. i'm not a big fan of the new look. i'm thinking about buying it but i don't know why because my vista works perfectly fine. and i have the rc untill june 1, 2010. i'll probably get tired of if by them so i'm not really planning on upgrading.

I like Windows 7 RC, it beats Vista to a pulp. I overall like the new superbar, the only problem I have is that it takes a little more screen space than the traditional taskbar, but not a big deal if you have a lot of screen real estate. There are still many adults who are just now learning how to use a computer, and I think the superbar is a little less intuitive for them and may be a little confusing at first. I like it that you can drag and drop tray icons to any position you want.
All of my devices installed without a problem. It took a little more than 30 minutes to clean install for me, I have an AMD Sempron 2600+ and 2 gigs of RAM.
Aero seems a bit faster and smoother. I like how it makes the windows look a little better than in Vista.
The colors are a little more pleasing than in Vista. Blue is my favorite color, and it's nice to see more blue throughout the whole OS.
To sum it up, 7 is a polished and refined Vista, but the refinements are so great. For me, I almost like it as much as XP. But I don't think it's worth the upgrade since XP still does the job for me and even though 7 is great, I still think XP is a little better.
WinSimple Software
CompTIA A+ Certified

I've been using W7 for 2 days nows (i no i started late)
as of yet I have found NO problems with W7, it is seriously faster than XP, no problems so far with drivers
running on 2GB RAM and W7 has not visibly slowed or stalled in any way, did a stress test worked fine
I will be buying this and running with XP till about June 2010 then I'll phas out XP if I can :)
all in all a brilliant OS, thanks Microsoft (1st time I have ever said that without sarcasm)
Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.

I love it.
I have a media centre PC in my sitting room that is the heart of my home entertainment that was running Vista Home Premium x64.
I've upgraded that to Windows 7 RC1 for the coming year and think I'll definately buy the upgrade.
The only issue I have came across so far is in Media Player and Media Centre. For some reason everytime either is open they have to go through the process of adding all my music to the library. I can't figure out why.
Other than that it's great.
IT Services Manager

Still so far, so good.
It appears there's a lot of minor under-the-hood tweakings going on with Windows 7 & M$ must be on a mission to put out a nearly unblemished code as catharsis for the whole Windows Vista episode ... I don't blame them. In the last couple of weeks alone, I've gone through about three or so builds & the build 7229 currently being tested on this machine might change within the next 24hrs or so. On the positive side, save for nitpicking, it's getting really hard to find bugs in these builds that are continually popping up.
We'll see if they somehow manage to screw this up, but I'm not going to be betting on it ;-)

Thx again all. As soon as I get another hd ill have rc1 upand runnning
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400. When we cast a pebble into a pond we should look past the first ripple.

Really nice, however:
If advancing into the current century from Win98 certainly or if you can't do without DX10, ok. If leapfrogging over Vista from XP with a hot new macheen ok.
If already using XP Pro 64 and a 2X CPU not so much. For me the faster load is minimal (bloatware will kill anything), the TCP/IP improvements likewise.
Plays most games well except COD2 (tried everything) and not willing to mess with BF2 just yet.

In response to message number 37 concerning the size of the taskbar was a problem for me but I right clicked the bar and changed the size to a smaller size. Now it looks much better.

Just installed last night. Keep in mind I have never even seen Vista. So everything is new to me. It seems that navigation around windows is totally different than XP Pro. I could be wrong. I am working that out though. It does appear to load quicker and reboot quiucker, just my opinion. Will I purchase it? I don't know. I am not in a great place financially right now and the purchase of an operating system would be big to me. So far I would like to however. The new look is neat. I have several old programs that it says are not compatable but they all run just fine. I did a fresh format and install to avoid any troubles as I had a few with XP Pro 64, four times in the past three months when I went to boot up it went into a continuing boot loop. The error i finally got pointed towards bad memory but the memory was checked and good each time. Also it would work just fine for weeks after reformatting.
As for 7 the only issue I have so far is shutdown. It doesn't shutdown fully. I have pretty lighted fans and other lights in my box that do not shut off. The hard drive light goes out and I am pretty sure the cpu fan stops I also loose signal to the monitor. Appears to be shutdown accept for two external fans and inerior lights that keep going. I have to hold the power button for nine or ten seconds to complete the shutdown. There are other issues but I feel most of them at least are due to my lack of experience and I will get past them. Just having a little trouble finding my way around. lol Typical male right.
Practice makes perfect but only if you practice perfectly!

Just noticed also the CN system scanner won't scan my system now? I have java installed and updated. Probably a security thing I over looked. The new permissions thing sure is a pain in the back side too. lol
Practice makes perfect but only if you practice perfectly!

having used it for a while now, i like it enough to have pre-ordered 2 copies...would not buy it at full price...but pre-order price is ok.
i hate computers!
but cant help myself....

I really like it. I am surprised ;-). Vista dissed my machine so bad, somewhere in the twos, then turned to be a buggy bloatware mess, that I just wasn't hoping.
I'm still running AMD 3600 (OCd by 10% and counting), recently installed GTX 260 by BFG, factory pimped ($129!!), 2GB, SATA HDD, etc. I'm saving up for a Core i7. And Rampage II Extreme mobo.
So I put in an old IDE HDD wiped it and inserted the Win7 DVD (32bit), booted, and it was SMOOTH... No issues. I spent a week reading error logs, instructions, recovery tips, and had no issues. The FEW things that didn't install before the first boot took Vista 32bit drivers (like Logitech mouse program).
BTW: it dualboots neatly with my old XP. If I leave the RC disc in it boots that. If I take it out, XP. XP seems old and clunky now! If for some reason I have to go back I'm gonna be sad...:-)
Technically it uses between 70 and 100% of processor now and 80 to 100% memory, where XP barely used 1/3 of each; but it's fast and smooth even when I was netsurfing while running a 3rd party virus scanner.

Hey johnson check out easybcd. That way you don't need the rc disk if you don want it in there. I use it with my 2kpro/rc dual boot. http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
WinXp Amd 64 3000 Msi Neo2 Platinuim 1 gig ddr 400. When we cast a pebble into a pond we should look past the first ripple.

Well so far so good. The only dissapointing thing to Windows 7, is the gaming performance. It's surprisingly not really any better then Vista's. So gamers that were looking for more of an XP like gaming performance from Windows 7, it's not going to be there.
http://xbitlabs.com/articles/video/...
Other then that Windows 7 runs much better in many areas then Vista.
Iron Sharpens Iron.

BEAUTIFUL system, works a treat a 2GB RAM, 2x 3.3GHz, looks great on a 1024x768 resolution, control panel can be a bit of an arse; then again Vista's control panel was aswell, start up is fine, upgrading the installation (e.g. from version 7100.* to 7600.*) is a nightmare 'cause it doesn't work, the ultimate good point the speed of the system and the response
my score 8.5/10
I'm going to try x64 next week, so I hope that responds better than x32
Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.

The reason the in-place upgrade from 7100.* to 7600.* did not work is because M$ didn't want it to. They prefer & suggest a clean install of Windows 7, which isn't really a bad idea.
Fortunately, there's a way to bypass that roadblock & it involves the file "cversion.ini" within the sources directory on the Windows 7 disc.
Simply....
- Extract the files in the ISO with an ISO editor
- Navigate to the “sources” directory
- Open “cversion.ini” with notepad or another text editor
- Change the "MinClient" number from “7***.*” to “7100.0” ... see below for example
[HostBuild]
MinClient=7100.0
MinServer=7100.0- Save your changes to the ISO, run setup as normal & proceed with the upgrade.

Windows 7 is really good OS. It is working very fine on my 1.8 GHz processor with 1Gb ram. I am able to run heavy software on my PC like Adobe Photoshop, very smoothly. And I am actually having fun with windows 7 improved taskbar.
http://www.helpwindows7.com/forum/

The Penguins make a sweet Linux background. Thanx M$!
It's the trees moving that makes the wind blow

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