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Name: CrasH
Date: July 3, 2002 at 09:11:07 Pacific
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OK, I love operating systems and hardware and such...especially obsolete and no longer supported systems...the underdogs.

Who in the world (banks, video stores, etc.) still uses Win 3.11 as a primary system in the business/industrial world? With all of you in this forum with questions regarding Win 3.11, I'm curious who still uses Win 3.11 as their primary desktop system and why? Does anyone here happen to have Win 3.11 installed as their ONLY OS on a relatively powerful machine? Why? What do you do with it? And how do you get around the hardware and software incompatibilities?

Thanks,

CrasH

Feel free to e-mail me about it. And yes, I've actually had Win 3.11 installed and used it. It was one of about 8 systems I was multi-booting at one time.



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Response Number 1
Name: Wengier
Date: July 3, 2002 at 10:24:12 Pacific
Reply:

I use DOS as my primary system except Internet, not Win3.11.


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Response Number 2
Name: Dave the snake
Date: July 3, 2002 at 11:22:46 Pacific
Reply:

Dear spiritflame
I think using win3.1 or Win3,11 takes you further down the road of knowing many of the basic functions that some of the newer logicels still use and being closer to programming techniques also once you know your computer you will be trained on a basic level.

Dave the snake


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Response Number 3
Name: HondaNSX12
Date: July 3, 2002 at 11:52:30 Pacific
Reply:

Well, banks do use Windows NT 3.5 as their main operating system (some of them). Many companies and small businesses even use DOS as their main OS because of its stability. So asking, who uses Windows 3.11 is a very general question because maybe home users do not use that software but businesses do use that software.

Case closed.


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Response Number 4
Name: Duncan
Date: July 3, 2002 at 12:21:15 Pacific
Reply:

Believe it or not my dentist has an old commadore, I think it was called a 'pet' or simular, it has about 4.5kb of memory. They have it attached to a little printer and print their customers reciepts on it. The thing must be well over 20 years old. Compaired to that win 3.11 is the height of modern computing


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Response Number 5
Name: Henrik
Date: July 3, 2002 at 13:20:33 Pacific
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I have seen that some banks allover Sweden uses old Ericsson PCs with the 8088 cpu and running dos. Also a friend told me he was by his moms work at a large hospital in stockholm, that they used wfw 3.11 on most of their computers.
I am running my Pentium 100mhz, 40mb ram, 800mb hdd, Riva TNT 16mb and win 3.1 with no prob but it was hard to find drivers for the TNT video card.

/Henrik


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Response Number 6
Name: John Mounsey
Date: July 3, 2002 at 13:33:29 Pacific
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Where i work We still use dos 5 here because we need our systems to work 100% of the time
they is two computers next to each other one dos 5 and the other win98 the 98 computer as been down 10 times in the last year and the dos computer has NEVER been down yet. The computers are AMD k6 300, 64mb ram, est


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Response Number 7
Name: yeah
Date: July 3, 2002 at 14:22:28 Pacific
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windows 3.1 is used in my A+ class to study how computers work.
According to my instructor, windows 3.11 is still used overseas due to export laws the state department has. The newer versions of certain software packages are not allowed to be sold.
Personally I am up to windows xp service pack 1. (beta). But I have a copy of every version of windows between 3.11 and xp for training purposes.


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Response Number 8
Name: Art Smass
Date: July 3, 2002 at 16:34:53 Pacific
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I agree with Dave the Snake. Win311 is a great way to improve your computer skills. The DOS commands you need to use will help make you master of your machine. Also, old machines that might otherwise end up in the garbage can still be used very effectively for word processing chores. I know for a fact that older machines are making their way into Central America where financially less advantaged people are picking them up.


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Response Number 9
Name: litz (by don)
Date: July 3, 2002 at 16:56:20 Pacific
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my theory is that any computer that can get online...386, 486 and on up...no matter what processor, OS...are an ultra useful machine...

even older pc's are still useful for whatever you use them for...

I used to have an old iBM pc-jr(circa1987) and I wish I still had it...
i still have a commodor 64, i don't use the computer any more, but I have the moniter hooked up to my cable box and I am currently watching tv on it as i don't have a real tv:)


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Response Number 10
Name: Dan Penny
Date: July 3, 2002 at 19:50:03 Pacific
Reply:

The fact that there are posts in the win31 forum should be enough to tell you it's ~still~ widely used. I don't mean to be rude, but the breadth of the forum should have answered your question while it was still posed in your mind.


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Response Number 11
Name: Wolfe
Date: July 3, 2002 at 23:10:19 Pacific
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Win 3.11NT has to be the best GUI Micro$oft ever made.It is completly stable and uses very little system resorcess.From the moment I press the power button till the hard drive stops is about 30 seconds.Try that with win XP.I also have every windows from 3.1 to XP (XP sux XP sux! sorry just had to say that)If you are not interested in playing new 3d games then no one needs more that 100mhz and win 3.1.;)Only one problem so far is it cam be hard to find drivers for some newer hardware but you would be supprised how amny drivers for win 95/98 will work for 3.1.Anyway,If all you need is internet and word processing/office apps,go win 3.1 all the way.


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Response Number 12
Name: matt hudski
Date: July 4, 2002 at 02:14:31 Pacific
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My win xp pro takes 29 seconds (timed) to boot completely with various software loaded on it also like spoonproxy, office xp, kazaa etc (aimed at wolfe). But saying that win 3.11 is great.

My father (up to last month) was the Head of IT of one of the largest company's in the world, he used win 3.1 on his P4 just because it look just seconds to do anything, his time was expensive so waiting for office to load (approx 10 seconds) would cost the company 0.15 pounds (0.25 Dollars). He only changed last year becuase his accounts package wouldn't work.

So in brief it isn't broken, don't fix it.


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Response Number 13
Name: William
Date: July 4, 2002 at 02:44:55 Pacific
Reply:

I was in the US NAVY for a while on a sub and they had a network installed with most of the computers using WFW 3.11 with Office 4 installed. They worked great! Right before I got out, they started upgrading to 98 and NT and they had all sorts of problems. It still wasn't working right when I left. One of the networked printers in the engine room still would only work if you printed from a WFW computer! I don't know about you, but I wouldn't call that progress.


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Response Number 14
Name: Hmmm
Date: July 4, 2002 at 03:25:00 Pacific
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Wolfe how come you still insist win 3.11 is NT based?

Just curious.


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Response Number 15
Name: Gaby
Date: July 4, 2002 at 05:03:15 Pacific
Reply:

Hi,

I recently corresponded with a guy whose company still has about 200 to 300 WfW 3.11 machines in their network.

The company I worked for till 1998 (a big CD store) uses WfW 3.11 for their 486 workstations (the server is a Tandem system). I guess they've got about 50 to 100 machines running WfW 3.11.

As for NT 3.1 (which only looks like WfW): This version seems to have been used very seldom. I recently bought a 3.1 Advanced Server on eBay (just for trying) and had to search a long time to get it.

Bye, Gaby



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Response Number 16
Name: matt
Date: July 4, 2002 at 05:19:32 Pacific
Reply:

The version of NT which looks like WFW3.11 which was commonly used is called 3.51 ? Well thats the stable version.

I beleave NT was release at version 3.1 but WFW3.11 was not NT based - 100% sure.


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Response Number 17
Name: IBM486dx33
Date: July 4, 2002 at 05:39:08 Pacific
Reply:

I have two computing lovelies
An Epson HX-20 laptop with 48k RAM, runs a form of BASIC and has a fantastic internal dot matrix printer. I used it to print reciepts at my old workplace. If this was not enough, i also own a Toshiba T3100/20 laptop. It's HDD is knacked but it runs Lemmings lovely!


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Response Number 18
Name: chris db
Date: July 4, 2002 at 19:15:56 Pacific
Reply:

that post from the navy guy is terrifying!
windows 98 on a submarine full of ship
to shore missiles, god help us all...


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Response Number 19
Name: Dan Penny
Date: July 4, 2002 at 20:26:41 Pacific
Reply:

Hopefully he's the one running the launch systems!



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Response Number 20
Name: Old Jake
Date: July 5, 2002 at 13:33:22 Pacific
Reply:


Take a look at this about the M$ Navy.

I downloaded some good 16-bit software from a navy-dot-mil site at the end of the last century. Unfortunately, the whole archive was deleted and many of the files weren't available anywhere else :-(


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Response Number 21
Name: Malcolm
Date: July 8, 2002 at 20:55:06 Pacific
Reply:

I use it on my laptop almost every day. I like the interface. :)


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Response Number 22
Name: Dellford
Date: July 10, 2002 at 18:02:56 Pacific
Reply:

The day I began upgrading my old HP Vectra 5/75 to win 95 has been the worst day of my life.

95, sometimes works, but usually doesn't. Connecting to the net is areal challenge, since the shortcuts don't work.

Soo, I dug my old Packard Bell out of the garage, it's a 486 sx50, but has 3.11 installed. It had sat in the garage for two years and booted up fine first try. The date was off four days, but I expect the battery had problems keeping it at minus 20 faenheight, which it sometimes gets here.

I do have one problem with it. That bloody 16A sound card. It will play no midis except the ones that came with the computer.

If I try other mid files I just get "This file may not play with the default midi sequencer" And it doesn't.

No idea who made the sound card and cannot find updated drivers for it.

However, the default drivers from the PB Disk will run any midi file on my HP with a crystal sound card. Strange.

I for sure prefer 3.11 to 95 and am preparing to uninstall 95 as soon as I can find some 3.11 software for one of my scanners. So far no joy.

Dell


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Response Number 23
Name: Michael
Date: July 11, 2002 at 07:38:14 Pacific
Reply:

I am trying to use win 3.11 but I am having poblems installing it.


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Response Number 24
Name: HondaNSX12
Date: July 11, 2002 at 12:22:14 Pacific
Reply:

When I use to have my ThinkPad 760L, I installed 3 operating systems on it, Windows 3.1, Windows 95, and Windows 98. Windows 3.1 was a great operating system to do backup jobs and stuff like that. I really liked it; it was extremely fast and extremely reliable. Then came Windows 95.

I had Windows 95 and I saw a dramatic difference. I didn't like it, and to do things took a longer time than under 3.1.

Windows 98 wasn't better, so I went backwards, and I liked it just fine.


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