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Two`problems: Memories and disaster

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Name: sraich
Date: April 25, 2004 at 02:38:31 Pacific
OS: Windows 3.1
CPU/Ram: 486/80 MB
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Hi everybody,
I have two problems:
Problem 1:I tried to buy two 64 MB memories for my 486 80 MHz computer, and the seller told me that he might test them in order to see whether they were suitable. 20 minutes later he returned and told me that they were not suitable (!?). Probably he is not very aware of this matter. What can I do for making the two memories suitable for my computer?
Problem 2: When I returned home, I connected my computer and see that when Windows 3.1 begins it shows the advice "RUNONC16 has caused an error of the general protection in the module WINSOCK.DLL in 0001:20CE - CLOSE". At clicking on "CLOSE" I could work with the WRITE editor, but when I tried to connect Internet, an advice "PROGMAN has caused an error of the general protection in the module KRNL.386.exe in 0001:SEA0 - CLOSE" appeared, and when I clicked on CLOSE the computer shows the prompt of DOS. What can I do for arranging the disaster the seller of the memories has produced?
If some member of this list can help me, thanks in advance.
Adios
Salvador



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Response Number 1
Name: 386dude
Date: April 25, 2004 at 06:39:50 Pacific
Reply:

Salvador:

You said you did not take the 64MB memory sticks; did you purchase other memory? Did the seller try the 64MB memory in your computer or another computer?

James


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Response Number 2
Name: sraich
Date: April 25, 2004 at 08:05:23 Pacific
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Hi, James,
Unfortunately, the seller tested the memories in my own computer.
I bought the memories with the intention of testing them, because it seems strange to me that the memories do not work. But I have still not mounted the memories in the machine; I will go to the workshop in order that some expert in 486 tests them. But it is not easy to find today experts in 486 and Windows 3.1. Thus, I am consulting this list.
Adios
Salvador


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Response Number 3
Name: IBMWarpster97
Date: April 26, 2004 at 19:49:24 Pacific
Reply:

1) Your Pc might not support 64MB sticks
2)It might be EDO, which your PC might not support.
3)Your PC might not support 128MB RAM

check buymemory.com for the highest amount in your PC, but dont buy off their, the prices suck.


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Response Number 4
Name: sraich
Date: April 27, 2004 at 09:30:51 Pacific
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Hi, IBMWarpster,
Thanks for your reply.
The seller tested the 64 MB sticks in my computer, and told me that he took them off and put again the pairs of 4, 8 and 8 MB, i.e. 40 MB, the machine wore. Therefore, the error message cannot be caused by the presence of the 64 MB sticks.
I don't know what is EDO. If you can explain me where is EDO and what can I do for arranging it, many thanks.
Once my dear 486 works again, I will try with 32 MB sticks.
Adios
Salvador


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Response Number 5
Name: IBMWarpster97
Date: April 27, 2004 at 16:46:04 Pacific
Reply:

EDO is a format of RAM like DRAM, SDRAM, DDR, ETC. Your BIOS/Mainboard needs to support it. I doubt yors supports it, unless its a really new 486. I see nothing wrong with 40MB, I got a 486/66 myself with 40MB running 95 quite nicely, and I think the 128MB was a little too much, but 40MB is just perfect for Windows 3.1X.

And also your BIOS needs to support the amount of RAM total, and the sticks of RAM. I know mine doesnt support any sticks above 64MB and my 386 wont support any sticks above 16MB.

Also speed plays a part, but for 128MB sticks, that not really a problem.

And last but not least, you might need to have matched pairs in the Pc, but I see you have that anyway. (IE 8MB+8MB 16MB+16MB 32MB+32MB, ETC.)


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Response Number 6
Name: El-Trucha
Date: April 28, 2004 at 05:13:45 Pacific
Reply:

Heeeeeyy...IBMWarpster, I had a 486/66 with 40 MB too!!! AND I REALLY DON'T RECOMMEND USING WINDOWS 95 ON IT!!! IT BROKE MINE!!! NOW IT DOESN'T EVEN BOOT!!! :'(

El-Trucha


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Response Number 7
Name: wizard-fred
Date: April 29, 2004 at 06:17:13 Pacific
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Win 95 should work with 40MB ram on a 486. I have a Packard Bell 486SX-25, that can run W95, W98, & Linux. It originally had 8 MB ram.

The limitations are probably the maximum size per slot and that memory might have to be installed in pairs.

How many memory slots do you have? I had a board that had 16 memory slots.

Also, what kind of memory? 30 pin, 72 pin

In regard to your present problem, have you tried to reset the memory sticks? Or tried running with less memory? or running a memory tester?


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Response Number 8
Name: El-Trucha
Date: April 29, 2004 at 07:37:33 Pacific
Reply:

One thing: I bought my 486 at a thrift store for $6.88 (American) dollars...
I'm gonna try all that u said...

El-Trucha


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