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Name: rah911
Date: October 2, 2005 at 07:55:21 Pacific
OS: Windows 3.1
CPU/Ram: 486/8MB
Comment:

I have a Packard Bell Legend 10CD. On boot a message 'System Battery dead - replace and run setup' appears.
1) Which battery is this? The CMOS?
2) Where is it located on the mother board?
3) Is it available (who)?
4) Other helpful items?
THank you
Rich



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Response Number 1
Name: name
Date: October 2, 2005 at 09:38:28 Pacific
Reply:

I'm reasonably certain that that old dog uses a common, ordinary "coin" battery, available from any (gasp choke) Radio Shack, or for that matter, large grocery stores.

It should be right on the motherboard--where 90% of all bios batteries are located


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Response Number 2
Name: rah911
Date: October 2, 2005 at 15:23:27 Pacific
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Yes - this appears to be the culprit - an old rayovac BR1225 (hopefully available) Litium 3V job. I suspect install, reboot and run setup - is it truly that easy or do you have other caveats?
Thanks!
Rich


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Response Number 3
Name: name
Date: October 2, 2005 at 18:35:41 Pacific
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Nope, it's truely that easy.

Just make sure the computer is actually off, and to be safe, unplugged when you change the battery, and that it is "in" correctly. 99% of the battery holders I've seen this means the "center button" goes DOWN towards the motherboard.

Since this may "clear" or "reset" the bios settings, you may have to go through and reset some, like choosing the correct floppy drive, the hard drive, etc.


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Response Number 4
Name: T-R-A
Date: October 2, 2005 at 23:03:38 Pacific
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Only thing I'd suggest is to make sure it doesn't use a "floppy-based" setup (never worked with P/B's that much so I'm not sure) and if so, then have that available...


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Response Number 5
Name: name
Date: October 3, 2005 at 02:49:14 Pacific
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I've fiddled with some fairly old Packward Bechings, 386's, and have not found one that used a floppy based bios program.


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Response Number 6
Name: wongojack
Date: October 19, 2005 at 07:32:13 Pacific
Reply:

Interesting

I am not so surprised to find this thread, but I am surprised to find it from October 2005.

Even more surprising is that I am wanting to replace the exact same battery in the same month - weird.

Anyway, looking over the PB450 motherboard on this particular machine reveals that the BR1225 is soldered on.

It looks like there are 2 metal leads coming off (one top, one bottom) that suspend the battery above the board.

My question now is how do I go about replacing the battery. Do I need new leads or can I clip and use the old ones? Can I use any hunk of metal if I need new leads?

There is also a way to disable the on-board battery and plug an external battery right onto the jumpers of the board. Can I just plop some wires down on the + and - side of the battery and plug them in?

Any help would be appreciated.


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Response Number 7
Name: mimi1027
Date: November 17, 2005 at 12:10:17 Pacific
Reply:

I am having the same exact problem! I have an old 486 Packard Bell that I have been saving for my granddaughter to play around with. Took it out of the closet, set it up and I am getting the battery dead message and also operating system not found message. I took it to a new computer guy in town and he called to say that the battery is soldered in and it will tear up the whole motherboard to replace! I am interested in how to do an external battery also, if possible. Just hate to give up on it!! Thanks for any info on this...


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Response Number 8
Name: kim
Date: November 20, 2005 at 17:36:35 Pacific
Reply:

MY computer has done the same thing how do you change the battery??


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Response Number 9
Name: 9toes
Date: November 30, 2005 at 18:04:44 Pacific
Reply:

this may not help but 10 +- years ago i replaced my battery in an old pac bell 486. i cut out the permanent (dumb ass) battery and plugged in a battery about the size of a 1 inch tootsie roll with some wires . there was a 3 pin connector nearby to eliminate wrong polarity connections. im sorry its all very vague but thats all i got to contribute.


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