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Have you ever heard of the Open Windows 3.x project? Well, http://www.jankie.net/soedesh/20.htm is (at least) worth visiting...

heard of it before
the system setting functions are easy to call
would you even really need control panel?.CPL files are just dlls
I dont know how to finish them
yet...
why dont you post some usefull links
on how to do what needs done?sure its worth a look...
its been started for yearsany one ever finish it? & if not...
who is for renewing the attack?

I think Microsoft should stop being so tight-buttocked and release Windows 1.x 2.x and 3.x free to the general public.
I also think Apple should release up to and including Mac OS 8.6 free to the public.
I mean why not? Both of those companies no longer make any profit from the said programs, and haven't done for a number of years now.

I wish I knew some sort of programming so as to help finishing this project... At present, I thing that Calmira should be incorporated into the project (no real need for winfile.exe - Calmira Explorer does the job better).

I actually have Windows 3.1 on Floppies. I guess I should e-mail that guy and help him.
Anyone heard of ReactOS?

arisoue
as the person who started the project
points out no programing skills are really
required to help with the projectdont think any one is working on it
right now though so...
if calmira needs added just do it
no programing skills should be neededif a project such as wine can run the win16 api
then they must have some info that we dont
has any one inquired into that or was there only talk?if old system dll functions were remade
it would leave room for fixes that would
remove some limits from old programsthe subject is not new
there are several old posts on it
check em out there quite interesting
Celsius
since M$ is not a person you would have
to get key persons vibrating with the idea
surely a few share you viewsthey could do like borland
and release one or two original versions
in a museam of historic M$ programs r smthin
the subject has been looked into before
with out much luck but in computer terms
time passes quickly so
its likly been years since any one asked about itReactOS I was told is aimed at win32
think they might have any usefull info on win16?

I managed to shove windows 3.1 onto a live-floppy with notepad.exe and winfile.exe, and there was about 50KB to stick a CD-ROM driver in.
Except that was for standard mode (KRNL286.EXE/DOSX.EXE).

MS wont release Windows software free anytime soon, look in your windows XP and Windows Vista system folders at some of those DLL, some date back to windows 1.x and some are based on that. MS still uses there code as a matter of fact a somewhat working PROGMAN is still in XP and needs a single DLL from NT 3.1 to work. Untill all the old code is no longer in Windows, MS has no reason to release it opensource.

Recently Workplace Shell for Windows was
released under a public license. I
contacted Mario De Armas, who wrote it
originally, to see if it could be open
sourced. I am very pleased that it has been
released. My hope is that it will be
enhanced and included in projects such
as "Open Windows 3.x".The WPSFWIN source code tree can be found
at the following link:
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerwor...Tim Locke
On the Internet, no one knows you're using a VIC-20.

Releasing Workplace Shell is very good news, indeed! Hope the source code be enhanced and compiled. Nice idea to incorporate it in Open Windows 3.x., but someone, with knowledge in programming and love for old OSes, has to do the job...

This release is not Workplace Shell from
OS/2. This version was written by an IBM
employee to run on Windows 3.x instead of
using Program Manager. It is surprisingly
like Workplace Shell on OS/2 v2 or v3.Tim Locke
On the Internet, no one knows you're using a VIC-20.

Well I kind of remember what I did summers ago, or I at least had a working installed version of open windows 3.2a at one time, the real problem is not having it on setup disk like windows 3.1 is and the setup files use the old dos compression utility I don't remember the name.
Many years ago I was kind of friends with Soedesh but I don't think he was interested in continuing the project, or he just didn't understand what I was saying and he quit responding.. Anyway I'm game for seeing it started back up. Though I would drop the whole windows 3.10 idea and instead go with WFW 3.11 as a base. Plus Soedesh recommend files that were specific to his own computer like you don't need western digital drivers if you don't have it, and to make it work for everyone you need every driver there is for windows 3.1 and 3.11, because people will have different driver requirements.I don't think Microsoft cares what you do with it as long as you don't sell it. and some one could make a logo I attempted it once but couldn't save it as a compatible *.rle file there is no real program that makes win3.x RLE graphics. or at least not a free one and their is something else missing from the equation now days it was called File Manger Step Up and File Manger Step Up Tool Bar for windows 3.x and windows NT 3.51 but they are not Available anymore. It was a much better version of File Manger but not a replacement.. and the NT version worked in win3.x too with win32s. I'm not going to make any promises but I've always been interested in the idea of implementing it and the possibility for improvement...
A good place to look for win 3.x updates is
Lightspeeds reference page
http://oldfiles.org.uk/lightspeed/m...Another thing is there are so many other updates that could be added to open windows like the Microsoft Calculator update that fixes the subtraction error. Plus it sounds like a good idea for a private yahoo group they have 100mb of free storage..

opening up windows is not illegal
just modifying the original M$ files and giving them away
recreated some cpl applets
finished snd.cpl
and worked on main.cpl
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/...not much point in redoing logos till the programs are redone
why not a public group or page?

"why not a public group or page?"
Sounds good to me I have thought about it but I'm no programmer either I could be called a power user I guess I know a lot of tricks with Dos and win3.x, But don't have a lot of time I will check out this group you mentioned I have an upstart Yahoo group but it's not open to the public yet. I would like to get back into computer related stuff like this. It was my cup of soup years ago. But I will have to stop going to all these general BS forums I belong to now days. Which I might be better off if I do. Maybe openwindows can be my means of getting started back, I am a hardware technician though I do deal with software problems on a regular basis.. I'll get back with you if I do anything interesting. Or open my own group. For now I'm still under construction..

Anyway I have that File Manager Step Up and File Manager Tool Bar uploaded. http://cid-dd3f7b5fa2b3d0c7.skydriv... Just look under Win 3.x Files.

It's good to see people still caring about developing software for Win 3.x. File Manager Step Up and File Manager Tool Bar was good software indeed. I have been using both of them since a couple of years. Hope to hear more about creating *.cpl files for OpenWindows in the (near, hopefully) future!

I not only have heard of ReactOS but have used it on a virtual machine. It's a decent Os. It is an NT/2000/XP clone with the source code rewriten. It is close to indentical with NT & 2000.

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