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Name: Eric
Date: August 17, 2001 at 13:39:18 Pacific
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Hi, I have an old toshiba Notebook- a T1950CT, and it has Windows 3.11 and 4 megs of memory and a 66 MHz 486DX, do you think it woth the cost of upgrading it? And, if it is, where can i find parts for it? If i leave it the way it is, would it run Windows 95? (250 meg HD)



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Response Number 1
Name: jboy
Date: August 17, 2001 at 14:23:25 Pacific
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Just barely as it is - 4Mb is the minimum amount of RAM, and if ram shadowing is enabled in BIOS, you might not even have the minimum. Notebook memory can be unreasonably expensive. The HDD, while not impossibly small, will soon fill up using Win95, and disk compression is generally not worth the complications and performance loss.
Sorry :-(
Stick with the old Win and maybe try a 'shell' like Calmira.


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Response Number 2
Name: Eric
Date: August 17, 2001 at 14:46:15 Pacific
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Okay, thanx, where do you get Calmira? And How Do you install it? Also, since I'll keep it the way it is, I would like to play music, but there are no speakers or a sound card. Some of my friends have told me that the PC speaker can play it back, but it will sound tinny. I dont have any Drivers for the PC Speaker, so where would I find one?


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Response Number 3
Name: DR
Date: August 17, 2001 at 20:03:32 Pacific
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Calmira is here:
www.calmira.org


Speak.exe is here:
ftp.microsoft.com/Softlib/MSLFILES/SPEAK.EXE

You should try it out, it isn't great sound and it won't play a wave file for more than a few seconds but give it a whirl.

You might want to search ebay or other sources for a parallel port sound card. I picked one up from EBAY for around $15 US. AUDIOMAN. It was old but new in the box. It isn't a great soundcard but much better than the speaker.

Also look for PCMCIA soundcards.

Good luck


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Response Number 4
Name: Noname
Date: August 17, 2001 at 20:29:29 Pacific
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You could definitely use Windows 95 with alot of free space: I have a Toshiba 486SX 20MHz with 120 Megs of Hrd Drive, and still have 40 Megs left even after I installed Office 4.0 and Works 3.0 for Windows. In my opinion, Windows 95A take up just a little more than the amount of space Dos 6.22 and Windows 3.1 takes up(Win95 is someware around 40-50 Megs if you install the whole operating system with all the tools) and only a little slower than Win3.1. My laptop loaded Win95 in someware around one minute(very good for a 486SX 20MHz).

You could get Win95 at:

www.crosswinds.net/~finguzfury

Although I didn't download my Win95 here, I think it would work.(my download is 21 disks)


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Response Number 5
Name: Noname
Date: August 17, 2001 at 21:00:29 Pacific
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And about the memory, don't worry, windows 95 runs under 4 megs.(i also have 4 megs)


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Response Number 6
Name: jboy
Date: August 17, 2001 at 23:47:17 Pacific
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Pretty poor performance tho' I'd wager. I've had 486s and even 386s setup for Win95 - sure, it worked... you had to like waiting (even with 20 Mb RAM).
DOS takes up about 2 or 3 Mb
Win3x.... maybe 12... it varies
I'm running Win95 on a system with 3Gb hard drive space.... drives are just about full - you need programs for Win9x to run, plus around 100 Mb padding for a decent swapfile on a low memory system.


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Response Number 7
Name: Golden Links
Date: August 18, 2001 at 02:54:59 Pacific
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As far as hard disk space, it would depend on the version of Windows 95. The first version (OSR1), installs with all the components at 70+ megs. OSR2 takes up a considerable 125+ megs with all the options. And if you upgrade to Windows 95 from Windows 3.1, it always takes up more space than a clean install. If you do go with Windows 95, I would definitely reccomend upgrading the hard disk to a 500 something megs (about 20 - 50 bucks on eBay). If you do decide to upgrade, I can give you a link to download Windows 95 OSR1 or 2 as well as the Windows 95 Plus! Pack. If anyone wants the links feel free to e-mail me.


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Response Number 8
Name: david scherer
Date: August 20, 2001 at 23:03:13 Pacific
Reply:

On older laptops, 4MB of RAM will cut it with 95A, but I would not go any higher version wise, as the newer versions also pack with it internet explorer which can really slow things down. If you want a browser, use netscape gold version 3. It will run.

In the future, upgrades will be slim, but there is another possibility: install a windows clone or install win32's to your 3.1 install so you can run other win32 apps.



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Response Number 9
Name: Matt
Date: September 6, 2001 at 15:44:23 Pacific
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I have an old Toshiba T3100/20 which keeps giving me the error non system disk error please replace and hit any key, well I havn't got a syatem diak to run this Laptop/notebook PC. Will win 3.1 go on and run, the computer has 640K of ram and a 20Meg HDD built into it as well as a 3.5 floppy at the side
Any help gratefully received
Matt (UK)


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Response Number 10
Name: Norm
Date: November 5, 2001 at 13:32:38 Pacific
Reply:

I have the same problem with an old Toshiba 3100/20. I do not have a system disk.Did you get the problem solved?


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Response Number 11
Name: Ron Welch
Date: December 2, 2001 at 18:08:07 Pacific
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Am following these postings re old Toshiba laptops. Have T5100 plus manual, but is very hard machine to work on. Easy to operate.
(Does not have internal power batteries.)
Have T3100SX as well. Not too hard to open and work on but v. hard to diagnose what it is trying to do without some kind of manual. Any info re web sites with operating info on old machines like this? Also play around with Bondwell B300 286 and NEC 386SX portable. Both use MFM type drives.


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Response Number 12
Name: Thomas
Date: December 14, 2001 at 11:06:19 Pacific
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Hi there,
I have an old Toshiba T 3100/20 and i need an operative system.Any who can help me? Thanks


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Response Number 13
Name: Nick
Date: December 16, 2001 at 13:56:14 Pacific
Reply:

Yeah It will run win95 and if you would update your ram to 20+ megs(cost about $60.) you can do a directcc and upgrade it to windows 98se. I did it with a 350meg hdd. It only took up about 150megs.


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