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Hi, tried to upgrade win 3.1 to win 95 and starts to load 95 for first time computer says missing file IFSHLP.SYS and COMMAND.COM then I get a C> and then can't do anything. Also need to know how to change the boot order. Can anyone help me?
Thanks
You can change the boot sequence from the CMOS setup - usually by hitting 'del' at startup but that can vary - should see instructions on the screen (briefly).
Hard to say exactly what the problem is - if command.com goes 'missing' then DOS (which Win95 also runs on) won't start.
It might prove helpful to know what your cpu & memory specs are.
Are you installing from floppies or CD?
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Thanks for geting back to me. I am using a IBM PS/1 Consultant computer. It is 486sx 25 Mhz with 253 MG hard drive and 4MG memory. It has a cd rom drive 31/4 floppy. I tried to install from CD. Tried to change boot order but can't. Only choices I have are Smart or conventional. Tried both neither would work so set it to smart. Drives light up but won't boot from them.
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Hi Janet
While your computer meets the minimum requirements for Win95, the amount of installed memory is pretty marginal.
Also, a PS/1 is something of an odd duck - IBM 'went their own way' back in those days - those were somewhat nonstandard.
By attempting to change the boot order, are you trying to boot from the CD? That won't work for a number of reasons. Or are you having problems booting from a floppy?
Can't say as I would recommend Win95 on a machine of that vintage with such low specs - I've run '95 on much better 486s, and it can be pretty frustrating.
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I was trying to get it to boot from the floppy drive. I have a 95 startup disk but it won't boot to anything. goes to c drive. I get error message wrong dos version missing files IFSHlp.sys and missing command com. Is there anyway I can load dos6.22 on this machine to try to fix it.
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Is the 95 boot floppy known to be a good one?
*Should* be able to boot from a floppy, although IBM's PS series were pretty nonstandard - not a lot of info on the 'net for PS/1s. On the later PS/2 models, often a setup disk was required to change options.
Sounds like the 95 install did not complete properly - wrong dos version typically comes from trying to run Win3xx with Win95DOS.
Can you boot 'clean' by hitting F5 (once you see 'starting MS-DOS' or 'starting Windows')?
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jboy, tried what you said got an error message "you started your computer with a version of MS-Dos incompatible with this version of windows. Insert startup disk matching this version of Windows". I did see the 3.1 startup screen for just a second. Does this mean I need a 3.1 startup disk.
Janet
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There is no Windows 3.1 startup disk. Windows 3.1 runs from DOS boot disks.
You have started your system from a wrong version of DOS ("WinDOS"). You need to use a true DOS boot disks. For example, the standard MS-DOS 7.10 boot disks:
http://newdos.yginfo.net/dosware/msdos71b.zip
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No - actually there's no such thing - Win31 is not an OS, it runs from DOS - technically speaking, the same is true of Win9x, but it's designed a bit differently.
It seems like the core Win95DOS files are installed on your system, but for some reason Win31 is attempting to launch, which is incompatible.
Originally your machine was set to run Win31 after booting to DOS, right?
Hitting F5 should have bypassed any startup commands in config.sys & autoexec.bat, so that does seem a little odd.
Do you know for a fact that your Win95 boot floppy is good? Do you have any other boot disks? It's hard for me to imagine a machine without a floppy boot option in CMOS setup.
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I'm sure jboy didn't see my response above. But he was using a different Win95 (Win95OSR2), which is NOT compatible with Win3.1.
Try the MS-DOS 7.10 boot disk above, which is compatible with both Win3.1 and Win95.
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Oops - hi Wengier - yes, I missed your response.
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jboy & Wengier, I downloaded Ms-dos 7.1o made floppy restarted machine hit f5 at the windows 95 is starting prompt but still get the same thing. Dos is incompatible with windows version. Any more ideas?
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"restarted machine hit f5 at the windows 95 is starting prompt but still get the same thing"
Why still boot to the Win95(OSR2) DOS prompt? You need to use the correct way to make the boot disk and boot your system to pure MS-DOS 7.1 mode, then Win3.1 will surely work.
Or try the Win95A (not OSR2) disk from Powerload's page:
http://www.oldstuff.myagora.net/powerload/bootdisk/msd700bd.zip
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ok guys got this machine to load 3.1 again. I would like to know if I can get 95 to run on this machine and if so how do I go about doing it the right way. Thanks so much for all your help.
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Sure, you can install Win95 on this computer (dual-boot between 3.1 and 95 or upgrade 3.1 to 95) as long as you have enough free HD space.
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Wengier, How do I go about upgrading? thats what got me in this mess to start with.I would like to run 95 and not 3.1.
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Boot your system from a DOS boot disk with CD support, type "FORMAT C:" (without quotation marks), then go to the install path on the Win95 install CD, and type "SETUP".
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Janet:
One more thing---if it's the machine you described above:
>>>I am using a IBM PS/1 Consultant computer. It is 486sx 25 Mhz with 253 MG hard drive and 4MG memory<<<
then you're going to be disappointed with the performance of Win95 on 4MB of RAM. You really need more memory (8MB is good, 16MB is better) to really do anything useful with it.
The hard drive is big enough for Win95 and quite a few apps (if you watch what you load) and even though 25MHz isn't breakneck speed, it won't test your sanity like the 4MB of RAM will.
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