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Memory problem

Original Message
Name: montroze
Date: January 1, 2005 at 21:02:16 Pacific
Subject: Memory problem
OS: Win3.11WFW
CPU/Ram: P1 40Megs Ram
Comment:
Out of Memory

Was just trying to fire up an old IE and get that OoM error, here's my old files,

CONFIG.SYS

DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS
REM INSTALL=C:\DOS\SHARE.EXE /F:4096 /L:25
DOS=UMB,HIGH
REM DEVICE=C:\FOS\BNU.SYS /P2 /L1:19200
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE RAM MIN=0 D=64
FILES=127
BUFFERS=8
STACKS=9,256
FCBS=1,0
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\MOUSE.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
DEVICE=C:\FORTE16\DRIVERS\CDMKE.SYS /P:630 /D:MSCD000

AUTOEXEC.BAT

C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:MSCD000
SET SOUND=C:\FORTE16
SET GALAXY=A220 I5 D1 K10 P530 T6
SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T4
C:\FORTE16\UTILITY\EMUTSR.EXE
SET IEPPP=C:\MSIE40
SET PCTCP=C:\MSIE40\PCTCP.SHV
@ECHO OFF
PROMPT $P$G
C:\DOS\SMARTDRV.EXE 1024 256 /X
SET DIRCMD=/0
SET TEMP=C:\PBTOOLS\WINTEMP
SET WINTEMP=[WINDOWS] $P$G
CD C:\WINDOWS
WIN

REM TYPE C:\PBFRONT\TEXT\EXIT2.MSG

REM LSL
REM EPROPKT 0X69 0XA 0X320
REM AON101.COM
REM IPXODI.COM
REM CD C:\WGSERV
REM CALL WG GO

Can anyone give me tips on getting this fixed...
Thanks


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Response Number 1
Name: jboy
Date: January 1, 2005 at 22:47:44 Pacific
Subject: Memory problem
Reply: (edit)
You're receiving error messages in Windows so you posted your DOS startups?


Pretty haphazard use of devicehigh (as well as lack of loadhigh), and some other decidedly peculiar choices, but they likely have no relevance.

Maybe this is pertinent?


Drop the last year into the silent limbo of the past. Let it go, for it was imperfect, and thank God that it can go.


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Response Number 2
Name: jboy
Date: January 2, 2005 at 00:41:19 Pacific
Subject: Memory problem
Reply: (edit)
If it's not the IE installation bug, then have a look elsewhere on that same site:

"Not enough memory" - Really?

... this message appears in three cases:
a) If there is not enough space in the resource heaps
b) If the amount of RAM really is too small
c) If there isn't enough memory below 1 MB available.


Possibly you may after all be low on conventional memory. A little more info might be helpful.


Drop the last year into the silent limbo of the past. Let it go, for it was imperfect, and thank God that it can go.


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Response Number 3
Name: rogerashley
Date: January 2, 2005 at 00:57:26 Pacific
Subject: Memory problem
Reply: (edit)
Why not update TCP32B and use IE5 Browser ?? after removing earlier browsers...

http://os2.tucows.com/softweb_default.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;111682

You only need TCP/IP protocol with WfW3.11, you appear to have at some time installed other protocols either in DOS or Windows. Therefore it may be a conflict of resources!

IPX is only required for Novell Knitware and NETBEUI is for older compatibility should not need, TCP/IP should be adequate.


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Response Number 4
Name: SkipCox
Date: January 2, 2005 at 08:38:04 Pacific
Subject: Memory problem
Reply: (edit)
First, copy your config.sys and autoexec.bat files to a floppy disk and to another directory (C:\BACKUP will work) so you don't lose 'em.

From the C:\ prompt type
mem and hit enter
What does the screen say?

Try this for config.sys

DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\MOUSE.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\WINDOWS\IFSHLP.SYS
DEVICEHIGH=C:\FORTE16\DRIVERS\CDMKE.SYS /P:630 /D:MSCD000
FILES=40
BUFFERS=10
STACKS=9,256
FCBS=1,0

Leave the autoexec.bat file pretty much as it is for now. Just REM out the cd\windows and win commands for now:

REM CD C:\WINDOWS
REM WIN

After you reboot, type the mem command again. Any improvement?

Skip


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Response Number 5
Name: jboy
Date: January 2, 2005 at 09:22:23 Pacific
Subject: Memory problem
Reply: (edit)
The startups do seem like a cut & paste job - wouldn't hurt to use LH (loadhigh) on mscdex in autoexec either, for one.

This one has me scratching my head:

SET WINTEMP=[WINDOWS] $P$G


Drop the last year into the silent limbo of the past. Let it go, for it was imperfect, and thank God that it can go.


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Response Number 6
Name: SkipCox
Date: January 2, 2005 at 09:30:59 Pacific
Subject: Memory problem
Reply: (edit)
Me too. I'm assuming it's a Packard Bell thing like

SET TEMP=C:\PBTOOLS\WINTEMP

and left it alone for now.

I also can't imagine the reason for

FILES=127

Thats a lot of file handles eating up low memory.
One thing for sure...those two files sure need some housekeeping.

Skip


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Response Number 7
Name: jboy
Date: January 2, 2005 at 09:50:51 Pacific
Subject: Memory problem
Reply: (edit)
Well, from that LucasArts link there's

SET WINPMT=[WINDOWS] $P$G

.. which I guess is some kind of Windows prompt environment variable - maybe for 9x (?) - never quite seen that before.

Kinda seems like a little bit of everything - that many REM statements is counter productive, for sure. Shouldn't there be a 'net start' line for WfW too (as opposed to all the REM'd out DOS net drivers)?

Just as well he'd posted them after all, although some details regarding the error & running Win programs etc wouldn't hurt

Drop the last year into the silent limbo of the past. Let it go, for it was imperfect, and thank God that it can go.


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Response Number 8
Name: montroze
Date: January 2, 2005 at 12:37:41 Pacific
Subject: Memory problem
Reply: (edit)
I will try out that test config, as for some things, yep its a packard bell

files=127 I need to run the (formally MajorBBS) Worldgroup 2.0 software.


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Response Number 9
Name: jboy
Date: January 2, 2005 at 12:54:51 Pacific
Subject: Memory problem
Reply: (edit)
No need to be formal - excessive values for files and buffers can increase the memory requirements for the DOS kernel and prevent it from loading into the HMA

Thanks for fleshing out the problem.


Drop the last year into the silent limbo of the past. Let it go, for it was imperfect, and thank God that it can go.


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